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Its Ange's Big Whoppin.... 30-10th bday (almost legal!) With a few KO of the year contenders, an upset main event win and a lot of come from behind victories the presents came early for her and everyone else yesterday. We talk controversial stoppages, booty cheek slips and Khabib having trouble on his way to UFC 311. Park your cheeks and enjoy the show as we breakdown the first fight card of 2025!
00:39 it’s Ange’s birthday!
02:24 will the LA fires effect #UFC311?
07:05 Khabib Nurgamedov kicked off a plane?!
11:43 First card of 2025 didn’t disappoint! Caesar Almeida vs Abdul Razak Alhassan
18:17 Put Almeida in the game and fix Ange's hair!
20:18 Punahele Soriano looked phenomenal vs Uros Medic
23:00 Bunes vs Johnson had a surprising armbar in round one
24:41 The new strawweight scrap Fatima Kline vs Viktoriia Dudakova and the drama that unfolded after
30:00 sadly we have to talk about the Roman Kopylov vs Chris Curtis controversy
38:55 Santiago Ponzinibbio vs Carlston Harris stoppage was a lil bit early but we’ll let it slide for the Ponzster.
43:50 Mackenzie Dern evened the score against Amanda Ribas (dare we say pulls ahead?) after submission win.
48:50 Whats next for Dern and Ribas?
57:00 Ange has a solution for cheeky wardrobe malfunctions going forward
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oh my God but sure we talked about this butcher you're
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on the show you're just excited about it everyone loves you being
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here I don't know why he uh plays hard to get sometimes you know it makes us
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want him more mhm it makes the viewers want them more it does they love him yes
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they did well uh you guys also love us too and we're back
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hello we're back with uh the birthday girl somebody is in their uh flirty 40s
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40s well technically broken you've broken the
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barrier how do you feel old no you don't
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and I don't feel old physically but mentally it's kind of like ah has it
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broken you down it it makes me mad and maybe oh my
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gosh Jess what keep talking oh I have a lot of C to light so you can just keep
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talking that's so sweet Jessica has brought me a cake uh
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for you guys you the 20 people listening on Spotify there's more than that oh okay
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35 thank you maybe we could get a good uh 40 views a special 40 views for my
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40th man yeah I was going to say it's it's weird because I realize how young I
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was when I felt old when I turned 30 or when I turned 27 which is like the
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year all the like really influential famous people die like the best
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musicians died at 27 and then I was 28 I'm like well haven't done anything and
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I haven't died so [ __ ] up on two ends they just wanted to give you more opportunity
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thank you should I make a wish
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yes y okay we're going to start the fire alarm oh well that's why I didn't put
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all the candles on the cake [Laughter] if it was 40 we would have burned the house down oh my God I feel like I can't
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even joke about that right now with the wild with everything that's going on man my cousin lost his house no yeah oh my
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God he lives out inusa the whole thing burn down damn how how was the evacuation process and everything you
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know what they they got out everybody is is safe they got all their cats they got all the family they just you know they
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get to start from scratch now dude that's the most heartbreaking thing is seeing like the lost dogs wandering oh
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my God next to the firefighters and like there was one video of a firefighter like hosing off a house but also like
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petting a dog and reassuring it at the same time I just like [ __ ] I can't I I can't imagine I can't imagine and it's
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scary because I mean we're a few hours away from LA but um it's only about a
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few miles from the in it dome I think uh the Pasadena one is like 10 miles away
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yeah so I'm not sure what's going to happen with the fight card uh that's happening 31 but uh yeah it's it's just
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uh it almost seems I don't know grotesque to think
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about the fight card happening in that area when so many people are losing their houses a a handful of people lost
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their lives like it's just a really uh wild predicament it's it's really frustrating to think that this happens
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this happens like this of this magnitude almost every year yeah and and still nothing's being done about it it's it's
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quite frustrating and all these you know conspiracy theorists are are coming on and saying you know the water wasn't
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turned off on some of the the um hydrants there was no water in the reservoir there's just a lot of stuff
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that's that's coming up and just realizing that um we weren't prepared we
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should have been prepared yeah because this this happens repeatedly yeah no
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it's it's a really bad one and uh it's also kind of uh worrying though too
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because there's a lot of misinformation out right now and now that meta and all
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these other people are uh getting rid of their fact Checkers like this kind of thing is going to go rampant like there
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was one thing saying that there were fire fire trucks were sent from uh
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somewhere and before they were allowed to hose off the they had to go through
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admissions checks no and it's like no that didn't happen but it became like this rumor that was really getting
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spread a lot because of something that's believable even though it's
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ridiculously absurd but with with what's going on it's like you'll believe anything so it kind of sucks that all
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also seeing a lot of videos from the last time this happen I'm seeing a lot of the there's like a lot of you know
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horse videos and I'm I have horses so I always you know know perk up when those things come on and I'm seeing videos
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that um are years old that are circulating again and claiming to be from you know the most recent you know
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damn it's kind of it's kind of wild it's it's it's scary that uh you know
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journalism has turned into just attention grabbing and it's always been like that but now even more so you don't
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have to fact check you don't have to uh show your sources you don't have to ask people for permission to rep post their
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videos like the most the most rewarding form of Journalism is not journalism
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right now so it's sensationalism yes yes so we're we're uh we're we're going
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through it and I mean on the ground floor it doesn't look scary it doesn't look bad from San Diego but uh like uh
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Natalie uh she travels down here to train and she couldn't even run um where
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she lived because of the air quality so I'm like how are you going to bring in a bunch of athletes to perform to the best
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of their ability when this is going on yeah it's it's kind of wild on one hand
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I feel like it would be a nice kind of distraction from what's going on you know something entertaining something to
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just take our minds off of the reality of everything and I mean that's what entertainment is supposed to be you know
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it's supposed to give us a release from reality but it is hard when you know that's
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kind of at the epicenter of what's going on yeah it's hard to be away from reality when you can see the fires from
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from the from the parking lot it's kind of what seems to be happening but
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hopefully they'll have it contained by then and then it won't be an issue but uh one person who was not willing to be
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contained was kabib oh off on his way to
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uh UFC 311 for his boy man um I
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that was that was quite the video that you that you showed me just right now did um so for you guys that um haven't
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heard yet or you know will hear about it we're we're going to break it for you first um khabib was asked basically
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escorted off of a plane yeah which is a bad look already you know not great but
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uh he didn't do anything wrong guys except for he didn't want to move seats
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and I'm not sure if it was the fact like if he didn't understand why he had to
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change seats um but whenever you get in a get on a flight the and you're in the exit row has the best leg room so I
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don't blame him for wanting to be there but uh you're in the exit row and they ask you hey if there's an emergency will
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you be able to perform this this and that and khabib I guess didn't
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understand or wasn't like computing and the the uh pilot came out and was
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saying hey if you don't uh if you don't switch seats then you're going to have to get off the plane and yeah khabib's
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uh reaction was very uh not woman friendly she I mean he could have just
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like you were saying he could have just been describing who she was like oh this woman blah blah blah but it seemed like
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he was a little upset about being told to do it comes off a little bit abrasive um and it just but you know we're only
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seeing this very small snippet of a video we don't know necessarily what happened before or after we just are are
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picking up kind of the tail end of it to where it's it's escalated to the point where maybe there was a breakdown in
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communication maybe he refused who knows I doubt this is the first time that he
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has been in an exit row so I don't know where the break and he speaks perfect English I don't NE
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I don't understand what it was but they were asking him to switch a seats if he
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does not want to or cannot agree to helping with the exit Row in case of an
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evacuation and it just looked like there was a huge breakdown in communication yeah and um he was not willing to
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bend as he was not willing to in his fight career that's why he was such a great Champion yes but
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he he ended up getting kicked off the plane because uh I guess he thought it wasn't fair that he'd have to switch
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seats yeah so hopefully he gets there though I
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mean and I'm thinking like I don't know which flight this is but if you're flying into LA right now you want somebody to be able to do the exit seat
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stuff like the exit row stuff like you could run into a huge plume
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of smoke of of a a scared flock of birds birds can fly through the engine like
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you don't know what's going to happen when there's a natural disaster going on but to be honest where you're touching
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down this is the kind of man that would be like really great in in high stress situations he would I think he would be
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great at helping people off of the plane yeah I think so too but you got to tell
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her that maybe she doesn't watch UFC maybe she doesn't want to put the trust
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of the the plan's hands in his or lives in his hand just because you know he
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wasn't gonna say he was gonna help I'm just relieved he didn't say do you know who I am Google me oh gosh I'm I'm
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really relieved about that um the you know people next to him were were very calm um his whoever his travel companion
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was got off the plane with him as well there was no mess no fuss afterwards but uh yeah it was it was a little tense for
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a little bit Yeah it it was number one [ __ ] that's what it was number one
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he won't be sending his location to UFC
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travel so they can rebook his [Laughter]
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ticket but yeah anyway um before we jump into 311 the fights last week were or
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yesterday were pretty intense and there were some yeah what was your favorite
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one oh my god there are so many but uh my favorite one had to be the um Caesar
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aladia versus Alik rakan alahan yes I don't I needed to
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look at it sorry guy who hates our annunciations of the word I feel like
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it's part of our charm it is we just lean into it at this point yeah we we know how to say their names wink it's
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it's just fun dude that fight was insane yeah I wasn't so I I called for
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Almeida to win by decision on this one but I also knew that he could definitely
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knock um knock alhassan out but alhassan could also knock him out but he was going to be most dangerous in the first
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round um he tends to just empty out the tank and throw everything at him which he did he had El made a hurt he had him
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backed up against the cage but with all of his offense and and power shots he
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left himself open to a counter he did leave himself open but the crazy thing was wasn't sloppy like he wasn't not at
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all he wasn't punching it's just when you punch you leave yourself open the
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only way to not be open is to just shell up the entire fight so he had him on his
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heels uh he had uh Almeida on his Hills and was Landing big hooks over and over
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again every time uh Caesar got up he would get hooked in the head again and
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the way that he was able to load on that hook that finally knocked knocked out um
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Abdul alahan that was the difference the biggest difference aside from the reach
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was the way that he loaded on that hook so they were both kind of throwing the same combination they both throw threw
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like a two three but Caesar threw the two and really just like like charged
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really loaded it up dude he charged his energy ball he just
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like and just like really fired up so when he threw that hook even though Abdul was throwing the same one he
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wasn't able to reach and he wasn't able to land with the same intensity that Caesar was able to and man he had him
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out forever he was out for a long time it's one of those it's one of where you
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really rely on the commentary just to fill in the spaces like please tell me they're okay just give me a thumbs up
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yeah the the stop man thing have you watched the Fall Guy no
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I've I've attempted to watch this movie multiple times and I have I have not been able to start it I always get
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distracted and watch something else it was actually really good yeah it was really it was like a really cute love
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story but then it was also like an action film and then it was kind of funny too it was a weird one like I get
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why it kind of flopped in the box office but it was a really good movie I enjoyed
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it especially cuz like me and Cat started doing the weird stuntman stuff stuntman training
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and if anything that made me think maybe I don't want to do that well from what I
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understand you can like pick your Niche like every stunt man has like a niche of expertise some people are like I'm not
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being set on fire some people are like I only want to get thrown from Planes and out of buildings so and I only want to
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drive cars so you can really like specialize what you want to do yeah I I
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can't get set on fire with with this kind of do then that's not your thing it would
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be bad it would be bad for everyone um and yeah the Big Falls too are really
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scary I'm just like oh I don't know if I could if I could get up to a height like that and still do what I'm supposed to
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do like I think I'd just be trembling the whole time you know when I was younger I was pretty Fearless I was
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talking about this like a couple days ago I think but man I like I love climbing on stuff I love jumping off
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especially like rock climbing jumping in the water it's like it's really thrilling for me I feel like a wild an
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I just love it but there have been times like more recently where I'm climbing up things and I'm just like [ __ ] man I'm
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getting up really high and I start kind of feeling that you know mortality or like my my body CU you're old shut up
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you're old too when you're old this [ __ ] happens and just uh your body's like
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natural like protective survival instincts start kicking in and you're like it's like when you hold your breath
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under water your body's like Hey we're we don't belong down here like come on up for air so we can live it's kind of
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like that I mean I still do it that's part of the reason I can still fight people in a cage it's you still do it
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but there's just a little bit more of uh reality setting in these days uhhuh yeah survival instincts that you you know
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your own mortality because you probably seen a lot of people die climbing up
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things not in person but you've heard about it happening or seen videos of it
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and stuff like that so the more experience you have with things going wrong
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you're like oh maybe maybe I'm not Invincible maybe this is the last time I climb up something you know even even
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cats only have nine lives hey there you go we're we're on like four and a half right now so yeah i' I've definitely
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tested the limits yeah definitely yeah well anyway uh um cesara probably took
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away one of uh Abdul's lives with that knockout it was it was like a the the
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doctor chick who got that head kick knockout recently oh when she almost
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killed someone she almost killed someone she was almost employed to resuscitate her opponent it was crazy but that girl
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was out forever and it was nice that when they not nice but you realize how
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bad the knockout was when they cut back to Abdul and they're forcing him like lifting him up wobbly onto the
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stool was like a really visceral site to see but man that that was probably my
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top uh fight of the night for last night but there were so many good ones like I
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was just impressed that that happened after all the other Knockouts we saw that night no it was a good fight um I
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think that that's what the matchmakers were hoping for when they booked that fight because both of them had the
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ability to knock each other out oh one thing I'll say for Caesar Alida put him in the game you he this little postf
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fight speech she was like my daughter she went and she wanted to play me in the game and she wanted my collector
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cards and I don't have any cards and I'm not in the video game so put me in the
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UFC 5 video game and I'm here to say yes put them in the video game and change my
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hair what's wrong with your hair I still have the I'm bald I have no hair what I
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have no hair I haven't had no hair for almost 10 years now it was like one time
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yeah I shaved my head I feel like that should be part of like your thing where they can change your haird yeah there
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should be a downloadable package that downloadable content where you can add
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all my different hairstyles cuz there's a handful there's a lot I got at least 12 different hairstyles that you could
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easily program in there one of them's already in there because they scanned me when I was on tough and I had the Mohawk
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uh but then they cut me so me my Mohawk was in the game but I was not well it's
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it's crazy to me that he's not in the game it's crazy to me that your hair isn't updated because they I mean just
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my last fight week they were redoing everybody's uh everybody's faces for the new game so it's kind of crazy this just
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happened though I don't think this has happened since I first did motion capture for it back like when I first
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got back into the UFC so that was the last time that I ever got anything for the video game recorded well at least
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you're in the game yeah you're still there I'm there you can definitely play as me and apparently my character is op
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I got really fast elbows and people can't stop them from Landing nice yeah
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so grind on that real quick but anyway um aside from that fight what was
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another one that you really liked uh Sorano looked amazing his first round KO
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his first time at 170 yes oh so was he fighting bigger or smaller smaller was
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55 okay yeah he did look more swole this time yeah I mean he he's always like
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been pretty lean and big but I feel like it wasn't 150 to or 155 to 170 is a
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pretty big jump yeah he would have to um really put on some weight to just feel comfortable there because he looked it
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though yeah yeah he looked he looked like that wasn't his issue making like putting all weight was not
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my issue the issue was losing it um but uh did you notice that he walked out to
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that song from the Snowman cartoon no walk it through the
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air you don't know the song you don't know what I'm talking about no is it like the claymation one is it that one
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no it's like a really old cartoon is handdrawn and it's the Snowman it's like it comes on every Christmas and it's
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about a snowman that gets built by these kids and then it comes to life but like I don't know me and my me and
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my friends like back back when I was a young girl and what we call a high
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school back then we would always make fun of that song because it would come on and we would go walking through the a
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he walked out to that song it was so ridiculous it's like walking out to I
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don't know what's the old [ __ ] uh Cartoon it's like walking out to a
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old Disney movie or something Disney movie song yeah you would do that you do so you get it but uh yeah this he walked
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out to the snowman song and then he was walking through the air when he landed
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that two three on the guy's chin it was it was a really good read because he
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knew that he was going to go backwards so he did one of those like big weaving Combos and was able to find the mark
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yeah it was nice he he covered up really nicely countered walked him back and I mean he Made Easy work out of what could
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have been a pretty tough fight yeah so it's nice now he just gets to go home
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spend time with his wife who is expecting it's uh we always like hearing that you know yeah he's definitely going
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to play the Snowman for his uh new baby when it comes out I want to know why he
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picked that song it's such a random thing to pick we got to try and get him on there yeah get was walking I had like
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instant Nostalgia um another fight that I thought was pretty nuts so was um Felipe
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abones versus Jose Johnson this guy is huge that Jose Johnson guy he's like the
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big old six-foot uh Flyway okay yeah and um as they're fighting it looked like
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that was going to be the thing that just really made it difficult for Felipe Bunz
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to get over like he looked even though he was about 5'8 so he's kind of a tall
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flyweight anyway most of the flyweights we know pretend they're 5'4 they're really 5'2 yeah yeah you're
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not 5'4 sorry hun but no uh bunes was a tall flyweight and then he's fighting
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this even taller flyweight at six foot like it it looked crazy and he didn't look like he was in the same weight
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class but uh Jose Johnson I I was pretty impressed with him until he got
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armbarred to [ __ ] but but uh his off balances his strikes it looks really
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tough to deal with so I'm interested to see what he does next he missed weight maybe a move up and weight would be
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something that would make sense for someone like that especially because six foot is still tall for ban weight and
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yeah I'm wondering what's going to happen after that but Felipe bues he was a stud and like I I feel like I was
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talking about charging up that energy ball cuz that's what he did after he got the arm barar he had like this crazy
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like kame kameha celebration it was really it was really fun I I love it
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when uh somebody gets a good um what do you call it just a good upset over
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someone who looks like they should beat your ass um what did you think about the
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strawweight fight that happened aside from the main event we could talk about that next um the Klein
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versus what is her name uh Klein versus Jova yeah well it kind of went how I
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assumed it would go dudova was going to come out and really push the the takedowns the
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grappling um kleene impressed me with her her takedown offense and her just
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ability to read situations and stay calm like with someone that was just so
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pressed for for the grappling and she ended up reversing everything that dudakova was doing so she made it um
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very very seamless she used all of her energy against her yeah there were a lot of reversals there um I I was impressed
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with dudakova because I thought it was going to be over as soon as Klein got on top of her but she looked really strong
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she looked really scrambly she was able to just do that kind of push off on in the mound a few times
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and was able to just uh not allow Klein to get settled right away but eventually
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you could see CLE getting more comfortable you can see her wearing her down and then eventually she was able to
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uh get that finish and what surprised me about the Finish was dudakova had all this like energy and
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Desperation and then all of a sudden nothing it almost looked like she gave up in that um Mount position when she
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was getting elbowed and like it didn't look like she had gotten hit hard enough to be wobbled but it did look like she
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had just her body just didn't want to respond to her anymore games so you get
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elbowed in the face yeah there was there was a nice little cut on her forehead um
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but it looked more like a mental thing and then you saw that thing that happened with the corner man afterwards right no oh Jess let me tell you it was
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it was so uh emotional um and we've all been we've both been there before but so after the
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fight she's getting consoled by one of her cornermen and then the other one comes up and he tries to hug her too and
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she slaps him and pushes him away like slaps him how where like across the face
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like T Nolla like um you know soap opera slap slaps
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him across the face on the face on the face and tells some
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no no where were you that was her grappling coach probably
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no this is your fault I need to blame someone for everything that I did wrong
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this is your fault I take no responsibility for it oh why did you teach me that move it didn't work
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nothing worked it only got me mounted oh man yes I it seemed like it
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was you know how every MMA fighter dates their coach like every female MMA
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fighter is was it a love triangle between her and her coach in
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Fatima yes you were coaching against me and I knew
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it no um I I think uh whatever happened she felt like
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really untaken care of like she said oh you were supposed to be over here you wouldn't even come up here you sat over
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there so I'm not sure if she's talking about in between rounds or maybe it took him a while to get in the cage but she
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was angry at him for not being right there with her like her other coach was
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wait this is Fatima or D dud I mean this this dudova okay okay yeah oh you thought Fatima no no no well I started
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getting confused because I was like wait what why is she being interviewed if she lost no this is just afterwards this is
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you could hear it in the video oh I need to see this I know I got to pull it up for you but it was very really spicy and
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I'm wondering what the backstory is maybe we could get do to kovon for a I think she's a spill I
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think she'll I think she'll talk well spilled something before exactly she'll do it again just
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got to give her the right platform no it is it is really hard um the the
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relationship between Fighters and their and their corners and the um emotions
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that you experience after a win or loss especially a loss um it's just there's a lot of frustration um normally it takes
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a little bit of time to sort through okay here it is for you
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it was a fast lap
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too yeah that that was a fun car ride to the hotel yeah right look at this slap
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this slap was hands speed oh that that hand speed on that
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Slap Yo she had that hand speed in the fight she would have won she wouldn't have been slapping people yeah D you
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know what it's it's a lot of emotion it is it's a lot of frustration the most emotion yeah
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yeah there was another fight that got me emotional I think you know which one it
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is I do it was it was a hard one oh was a hard one it was painful to watch uh that
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it end the way that end okay guys if you don't know what we're talking about you're insane our boy you should know
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our boy and what he went through Chris Curtis fighting Roman kopov oh my goodness that was a
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heartbreaking ending it was it was a good fight I had it 1-1 going into the third and and honestly um kopov was in
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in my book he was I mean especially after the cake especially after the kick that kind of if he wasn't up on the
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scorecard in the third round he would have been after that kick yeah um it's
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just it's frustrating to have it stopped there was no followup I understand
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you know in the post fight interview he expressed why he didn't follow up on it but still if you're not following up and
31:05
the man is on his way up the fight's not over so what did he say in the post fight uh kopov he just
31:12
said he said he knew that he hurt him with the kick and he he knows that he's a father and he wants to see him return
31:18
to his kids and be able to be with his family and take care of his family all that went through your head yeah he said
31:24
that's why he didn't rush him he said he was already done in his mind he said he was already done which you know
31:30
it's respectful he also had his feet up on the wall like
31:37
Glover in like after the round was over so maybe you just wanted it to be done
31:42
because you're tired maybe maybe maybe like he was exhausted after the fight as
31:48
he should have been like that was a lot of output but it was a gring fight it was a it was a I told you it was going
31:54
to be a fan favorite it was going to be for the fans and it was they both delivered um it's just I hate to see
32:02
fights taken away in that way you know like just there was a second left you
32:07
didn't have to feel like that I no it's it's like a it's not a thing that Chris
32:13
Curtis seemed to be happy about having on his record now is a a knockout even
32:18
if it was a loss you know yeah uh at least give them the chance to lose give
32:24
them a chance to tally up the score and and see uh what that final round played
32:29
out to but to take that away from him was just really heartbreaking and it might not seem like a big deal to people
32:35
who thought he lost but it it's something to you like I me watching the
32:41
main event and knowing I didn't get subbed by McKenzie D like I got beat up
32:46
but I didn't get sub and it's like this moral victory for you to say I hey at least I made it to the final Bell and to
32:55
to take that away from a fighter it just feels kind of demeaning it feels like
33:00
you're taking a bit of your power away and that's what the refs do when they make a bad call and not and Mark Smith
33:08
he is a great ref like he's rarely in the center of controversy like
33:14
usually when you know a ref's name it's it's for a bad reason but he doesn't
33:20
make bad calls often he's definitely made some bad ones recently like uh
33:25
maybe letting fights go too long you know he he has a reputation of getting
33:30
fighted at nights when he is raing a fight so you know I I feel
33:36
like sometimes you can jump in for the wrong reasons like maybe he's trying to show oh I don't let every fight go on
33:43
too long and then he stops it short you know it's everyone's human so it's hard to make the right decisions at the right
33:50
time also like referees you're probably not thinking there's one second left
33:55
he's probably not looking at the clock he's looking at Chris Curtis's eyes and seeing if they they can focus right and
34:03
I can see how that could happen but still man like if he if he had just
34:08
popped his eyes back to see that copyof was at the other side of the cage then
34:13
maybe he would have let the one second play
34:19
out it's it's a hard one um I I feel like herdan is more so on on the um on
34:27
the list of people that stops fights really close to the ending of it I I've seen him repeatedly do it it's it's not
34:34
easy being a ref in the sense that you have you have your priorities you also should know what time it is you should
34:40
know you know what time it is you should know what time it is especially when you have the 10c you know The 10c Clapper to
34:48
remind you how close it is um but his his job first and foremost is making
34:53
sure the safety of the fighter I thought that Chris Curtis looked like was getting up to his feet he looked
34:59
coherent he looked like he was still there so it it's just frustrating I can
35:06
completely understand how he got so emotional and frustrated after that I'm actually surprised we didn't hear more
35:11
from Dom when that happened because he's usually very vocal about those
35:17
situations but I feel like you know when Dom's in fight Camp when he's less I
35:24
don't know snipy mining his p's and q's he's mining his
35:31
business because he doesn't want his business interrupted yes yes that's how you know he tightens things up a little
35:38
bit when it comes to refs he's a smart man yeah business savvy for sure uh the
35:44
fight itself though was a really great fight um the first round kopov was just
35:51
giving him all sorts of fits with his lead hand and and just beating Chris Curtis to the punch every time anytime
35:58
he Tred to throw a kick or that stab kick that he's really good at uh copaf
36:03
would just pop him right away and it really um I think it made Curtis back away from like the leg kicks mixing it
36:10
up um but then in the second it was the opposite Curtis started Landing he
36:16
opened them up uh he started Landing his uppercuts and and uh doubles and triples
36:23
with the punch combinations and then the leg was starting to work he was able to get those kicks in but then like copyof
36:31
landed that really nasty one too at the end of the round so going into the third
36:36
you know they both had a lot of brain damage like he promised Chris Curtis make sure to go
36:43
back and watch our interview of Chris Curtis because he promised brain damage and he delivered he delivered it he's a
36:49
man of his word yes they were both messed up I saw that picture that Dana posted of cop Love's Cut Above his
36:56
eyebrow like that thing was deep and nasty looking look like a third
37:01
eye and see to the Future now yeah he'll be very cognizant next time Curtis wants
37:10
to throw that little uppercut uh but yeah it was it was a nasty fight going into the third and
37:16
yeah kava mixing in the takedowns that was the big uh game changer for him as
37:22
soon as he started mixing in the Tak Downs uh Curtis was sucking one a little bit harder he had to think a little
37:28
harder about what was about to come at him and I feel like that like even though it's not uh it's not why he
37:36
landed the leg kick it kind of is because all the up and down kicking the
37:41
legs and then going up to the head like Curtis was kind of on wobbly legs
37:47
already with the leg kicks and playing him in place being able to land that headkick it just made him fall over so
37:55
it was it was rough to watch and then for to get called you're you're you're almost like counting down like New
38:02
Year's you know as that kick L you're like three two and then Mark Smith jumps
38:07
up we like we had one second man we could have you know we could have had a decision on a record but now we
38:13
have a TKO and that and and what you were saying is right it does really it's like
38:20
an aster against a Fighter's name you know when you look when you're looking at their record and you see that you're
38:27
like oh that's the thing that stands out the most that's the thing that people remember not the fact that he's a
38:32
Workhorse and he's been like putting guys on their heels too and he's been doing all this great work and he's
38:38
reinvented himself and um you know he has great boxing it's just they they see that and it makes people look at that a
38:45
lot more yeah like oh you got knocked out what is he talking about yeah which is good that he's not on the internet
38:51
and instead employs a young Indian kid to take care of that for him smart vas
38:57
are amazing yeah good for you um you know one early stoage I didn't feel too
39:02
bad about was the co it was a tad bit early it was a
39:11
little early and especially since you gave so much leeway in the first two rounds pbio getting dropped as much as
39:17
he did um you could have let that one go too yeah that um uh carlston Harris did
39:26
better than I thought he would his striking looked um a lot crisper um he had a really crazy like overhand right
39:33
clubbing punch that um that was the first one that dropped ponzano but uh
39:39
ponzano is he's a gamer he's a vet um he you know did his his typical thing he
39:45
pressured he volumed he mixed things up he um he ended up getting the TKO for
39:51
Harris and it was a little bit early but I what are you going to do we're not mad
39:57
at it cuz it's ponzano it's Pono yeah let him get the win come on bro he
40:02
deserves it he's been here for a minute you kind of own for the last one yeah
40:07
yeah exactly wait what happened to the last one oh he he lost a decision to
40:12
Saka what's the guy's name um some people thought that he won his last fight but he lost the decision okay nice
40:19
good he deserves it it's funny cuz uh Adam's been on me all week about my
40:25
cauliflower I have like a little fresh cauliflower can I drain it I mean I don't know if you
40:32
can oh yeah there I can I can drain the [ __ ] out of that oh yeah right there yeah cuz well it's mostly in the back
40:39
like mostly the back of the ear is the squishy part yeah but uh yeah he's he's
40:45
been on me all week and I'm like you can't even see it he's like I can see it I'm like no you can't and I feel like
40:50
he's been on me all week because he saw a picture of ponzano like I don't want my wife to
40:57
have ears like that oh calm down Adam he's so dramatic but he's been on me all week
41:04
about it like just let me drain it no it's fine I love
41:11
it if you needs somebody to drain it uh nurse dress I love draining things
41:17
popping things you have to wear the nurse outfit that you you know I have one that you were in our uh what were we
41:25
doing kayv and and um Costa yeah the Costa skit
41:32
yeah so good I still have it we got to post that again to or post a link to
41:39
that for people to see but uh what what were we talking about oh yeah ponzano
41:44
versus Carlon Harris he he seems like the most annoying person to fight or to
41:49
spar with or anything Carlon Harris does like the way that his you were talking about his like weird like overhand
41:56
looping thing the way that he's able to kind of like boomering his punches around is so annoying yeah and he is
42:04
long yeah I didn't uh watching his previous fights I didn't realize I mean
42:10
ponzano is not a huge guy for the division either yeah uh but man he had
42:15
some size and reach on pmil he did it just it was very dramatized to me I was
42:20
like dang he uh his um style of
42:27
boxing reminded me of one of the characters from that stupid anime we were talking about the boxing anime but
42:33
he had he I can't I wanted to figure out his name so I could get street cred
42:40
but but I can't think of the guy's name but is one of one of eo's opponents and
42:45
he's just like terrifying the whole time he has this really scary look and he's really tall like they're all flyweights
42:51
in it even though they're they look like um Dragon Ball Z characters they're all flyweights but
42:58
this guy has this whipping punch that uh really like gives him trouble and that's
43:04
what it looked like uh with uh this guy with Carlson Harris is everything kind
43:10
of like unfolded and then whipped at the end or it whipped out and then it curled
43:16
around at the end so it was like ponzano didn't know it was coming at him and there was like a deceptive amount of
43:22
power on his hits so when he lands it's clubbing and it thuds and somehow he can
43:29
do that without getting any of his body behind anything I know it doesn't make any sense arm it's literally all arm
43:37
there is no rotation like El made a big rotation yeah none none it's all like
43:44
this I'm like dang he must cut a ton of weight yeah right I mean he's Brazilian so yes that's a given Carlon done
43:51
cutting weight well let's finally get to our main event
43:58
Amanda heas versus McKenzie D I called it I knew my girl D was gonna pull
44:05
through um she's just been looking more impressive to me on the feet lately and
44:11
she hasn't been jumping weight classes so we get to see some consistency in her performances and even in losses I feel
44:17
like she's been looking good and she was able to I don't know I feel like this
44:24
happens sometimes when you have rematches and the opponent won in the
44:30
second fight it's almost that like they're on defense mode like they're up a point when they start the fight so it
44:37
looked like Rebus was less into attacking and more into just defending
44:43
her when maybe does that make sense I I get what you're saying I do get what
44:49
you're saying and I feel like sometimes in that sense like um the the fighter
44:56
that won almost feels like they don't necessarily have to change anything they just copy paste yeah like oh I've got
45:02
this I've been there before I know how to get there I'll just keep her at Bay and then eventually what happened last
45:08
time will happen again yeah I mean I I agreed with you in the sense that McKenzie D had made more leaps in her
45:15
game she filled in more holes for sure um I I just thought that heus would keep
45:22
the distance better and she is stronger she's been competing at a higher weight
45:27
so I felt like her body would be a little bit more like primed to be like
45:32
strong and defensive so she could fend off d a little bit better um and I mean
45:39
she did for a time but I mean the the tenacity of D just really started taking over I thought it was very telling when
45:46
she had her um D had her in an armar she swept her up she let go of the armar to
45:53
get the position and then got that arm again yeah I was like oh that's just another level it was really impressive
45:58
yeah cuz she went for like 12 armbars on me and I kept slipping out so she knew she had to set that [ __ ] up before she
46:06
went for it um it it's it's uh yeah you could tell that as soon as it went to
46:12
the ground even when Reus was on top she just went into defense mode and I feel
46:18
like she could have been a lot more successful if she was attacking in those
46:24
positions or just bailing out immediately like she hung out in the gray area too long where it almost
46:30
looked like she wasn't sure if she trusted her grappling so she didn't want to open up or she wasn't sure if uh if
46:37
she wanted to jump out and get back into the Striking exchange D was doing well on the feet too she you could see that
46:44
the game plan was calf kicks like they were looking for the calf a lot for for whatever reason for what they saw on
46:51
tape and uh and they even had her doing it backstage so she stuck to the plan a
46:58
lot in the first round with the calf kicks uh was able to get to that single
47:04
leg where uh heus was able to like hip throw her uchimata her both times but it
47:11
was almost like okay this is where I can get to work now now I understand everything now that I'm on the ground
47:18
even if my back's on the floor and once she saw that heas was only defending
47:24
then that made her go even harder for the for the grapple in the third round the fastest way to take a Grappler out
47:31
of their game is to punch him in the face yeah and this is what he did not do
47:37
and I think if she had done it if she had started throwing elbows if she had started throwing punches and separated
47:42
as you were saying I think we could have seen a different result yeah yeah there was one moment where she even had like
47:48
the knee open and the guard was like pretty much she had a d half guard and
47:53
she did not want to pass you could tell she didn't want to get to that side control to the half guard to anything
47:59
where she might have had a little bit more control instead she was happy staying in that like uh guard position
48:07
open guard or closed guard or whatever she's more comfortable there than anywhere else and and I'm like dude like
48:14
if you're going to Grapple you got to Grapple you can't just jump into someone's guard and then try to hunker
48:20
down and hope for the best and hope that you get control time because eventually a good Grappler is going to figure out
48:28
which way to move you how to off balance you and then get that angle and get you so yeah I think she relied a little too
48:35
much on her strength with with the defense on the ground eventually Duren was able to find a few openings and and
48:42
uh yeah I was I was pretty impressed with that armar the way that she was able to get it get it so tight in those
48:50
last 10 seconds yeah I I thought it was a huge win for McKenzie well well
48:55
deserved I think this fight really showcase all the work she's been putting in um uh what do you think is next for
49:03
her I I think maybe onra again yeah why not I don't know
49:10
it's a little soon is it soon and then J jumps to fly all the other ones all the other ones are even sooner yeah do you
49:18
know what I mean um or even they're even less removed than that one well the
49:23
thing that I thought was interesting is when they asked her who does she want next she didn't go I want the winner
49:29
blah blah blah I want the Bell uh she didn't she didn't call anyone out she's just like I
49:36
just want another one so she's not thinking that hard about it like she I think she is in a place where a lot of
49:43
Fighters need to be at her age like uh she's not in a rush you're if you're in
49:50
the top 10 and you're 25 to 35 you don't have to be in
49:57
a rush you know you you you can sit on that egg and wait wait for the right
50:02
fight to drop into your lap instead of rushing into the next Contender that
50:07
might not be the best stylistic matchup for you but then you get knocked down the list so like she's she's showing
50:15
patience that I think is uh is kind of uh good to have when you're in her
50:21
position because she just beat rebas she just got a finish she can wait for the next person
50:27
that she feels really confident about finishing you know she can wait for maybe uh
50:33
lucendo me lucendo beats a man Del limos I think that's her next fight she can
50:38
wait for that matchup which I think on the ground she just blows her out the water uh she can wait for like a New
50:45
Prospect she can wait for a reachi fight you know a fight where she's not going to take any damage and she's going to be
50:51
put in those positions to get the submissions a bunch um if she goes for a graph type of attack so I think I think
50:59
she's in a good position where she can just wait for a good matchup that has a number by its name that's going to give
51:04
her a better case for fighting for the title and she has probably has time on her side because if Tatiana Suarez is
51:12
able to beat wh we don't know when we're going to have another strawweight title fight well in the pre-fight pressor she
51:20
did say that she would rather fight Tatiana she said I want to fight you know I want to have a grappling match I
51:25
want to do this and that I'm like yeah makes sense because Wy is terrible match up for you personally personally I think
51:32
so um it's just you're you're at number six everybody ahead of you you've you've
51:39
already fought and either beaten or lost and everybody behind you it doesn't necessarily do anything for you so I'm
51:47
just thinking about how is she going to advance what's next I don't I don't know I mean maybe they they like
51:54
her so much that she would just you know go from number six to a title shot I wouldn't be surprised I wouldn't be
52:01
surprised and uh you know I don't think you turn that down like even though
52:06
she's acting like she isn't going to ask for it well she she's not asking for it
52:13
if you give it to anyone they're going to take it because that is a huge pay
52:18
bump it's a huge status bump uh once you become Champion you can retire and start
52:25
your movie career you know so so no one's going to turn that off or down but
52:30
I do think like it seemed like her post-fight feelings immediately she probably just wants to get another win
52:39
under the boat where she can feel really confident going into that title shot if it happens sure yeah uh what do you
52:45
think's next for heus for heus honestly I think she should go back
52:52
to 125 and play there no and I mean I I wanted to talk about uh
52:59
you know one of the things I want to talk about was this you know um weight cut Fiasco of um Diana Silva oh yeah
53:06
that um is is coming back up this happened a while ago but it's just talking about people just doing these
53:12
like big weight cuts and not fighting at a healthier weight and I think that heus has been looking really good at
53:18
125 and I think that you know that's something to explore I think it's a
53:23
little bit easier of of a path to you know the title I want to see her
53:29
fight you know blanchfield or Barber or you know I want to see her up there in you know fighting the the top 10 yeah
53:35
and I want her to either [ __ ] or get off the pot get out of straw weight clogging
53:41
up the the rankings well I I kind of uh have a personal Vendetta against her
53:47
because she uh when we were supposed to fight she ended up pulling out uh I
53:54
think I think she might have had Co so I think she had a good excuse but it was on fight day so she tested positive for
54:02
Co on fight day and then they were going to rebook it for like three weeks or a month later and and I was like great and
54:10
they said oh but if we rebook it it has to be at 1225 yeah I'm like no yeah
54:16
that's enough no I walk around at 1225 so we were trying to get it at 1115
54:22
again they're like there's no way she can make 115 again in that amount of time it's like well why are you a straw
54:28
weight then now I have I have um that kind of frustration like when I was
54:33
supposed to fight Goldie and she got Co she had to pull out and then they were trying to make it at 125 I was like I am
54:39
not a large human this girl used to fight at flyweight now she's cutting a ton of weight if you have to cut that
54:46
much weight and it's so hard for you then you should just be at flyweight exactly don't try to make us suffer
54:52
people forget that heas uh fought p a at
54:57
125 because of probably because of a similar reason I think neither of them wanted to cut weight
55:04
hey come on P your phone smell like Grace do you
55:10
want some Whi cream Grace was uh licking peanut butter off of your phone she's
55:16
not she doesn't like peanut butter really really I've tried I've tried to do those really cool videos of like you
55:21
know have your dog eat peanut butter and get off no she won't do it she a classy
55:27
dog she doesn't [ __ ] with peanut not surprised but uh but you know who isn't
55:32
a classy dog or heus and her oh my God that
55:39
segue I'm funny I could be sassy I'm just a scen out old woman no one can judge
55:46
me oh but yeah I that that's always that pissed me off about um you know just
55:53
like I don't know the the fact that she stays in the rankings even though she
55:59
jumps up and down um her uh her best like uh when before heus
56:06
I mean before D was uh page of Manana 125 so it's like dude she's she's a
56:12
125 she just kind of dips her toes in 115 every now and then when she can have
56:18
enough time to cut weight but it I always thought that was kind of um shady
56:23
and you know she's another one that was popped by usada for her usage for 2
56:29
years really I didn't know that yeah a lot of people don't know that I had no idea yeah she had a 2year suspension for
56:38
ostering and I know that because I just looked it up because I was like what's that one for um it's like a a male um
56:48
muscle enhancer wow wow I did not realize that so she was popped in
56:55
2017 after she made her debut wow Y and nobody talks about it because she's so
57:02
sweet she has such a sweet boy said she never means any har to anybody until
57:08
she's ready to fight and then she does this face I do love that at the end of every
57:16
round oh she gets up off her back get it girl defending arm bars the
57:22
entire time it until you make it she didn't have the cheek in this time I think that was part of her demise she
57:28
was not cheeking like she did in the Rose fight you got to Che lesson learned let
57:35
learn oh she Che she Chey she she was super cheeky I couldn't stop staring at her cheek I was like oh
57:42
get a girl you dropped something I feel like if I was a rough I
57:50
probably get in trouble for like a girl starts cheeking yeah just like do a little just a little pinch real quick I
57:58
feel like I get in trouble as a raap for doing I'm like what you would you would lose your job I'm just being a
58:03
girlfriend you would you would lose your job I'm just being a girlfriend I would never you to stay neutral just like all
58:11
of those uh camera guys when you're on the ultimate fighter oh my God you must stay objective and not interfere with
58:17
the subject hey we we got them to crack a smile every now and then we were good at that we did that was like one of the
58:23
goals yeah oh he there was a smirk there I saw your camera daddy mhm we got you
58:32
um yeah but it would it would be just like putting their mouth guard back in
58:37
like oh pause the action okay continue not the same thing
58:43
yeah not even close who was it who was it roughing me in Brazil they let my whole ass hang out that whole cheek I
58:51
forget who it was was it a chick cuz if it was a chick and I felt it was a man okay I I feel like I still would have if
58:58
I had felt like a hand a hand just redrape my butt cheek I would have been
59:05
real happy I didn't have to you know take the take the risk of backing away and hoping my opponent would let me your
59:12
happiness or the audience's happiness you're an Entertainer Angela you need to think about what's important I know the
59:19
fans what they want to see I still feel like I should have let my ass hang out for the rest of the round I I messed up
59:24
I feel like that too okay hopefully this girl she also has a neck tattoo and is Brazilian so there
59:32
there's a 5050 chance we might see part of my ass in this fight too you know what just stretch him out a little bit
59:38
more I'll take the extra large [ __ ] I wore an extra large last time did you they were so tight they
59:45
looked really like well fitting maybe that's what I need yeah
59:51
I'm messing around with these mediums um well yeah I that that's our
59:58
breakdown he Wasing the cheek part two do you think
1:00:05
we see a part three somebody said something about part three and I'm like we don't need to see that I mean
1:00:10
eventually you know what people yeah it depends on what heas does after like if she starts going crazy with WIS of
1:00:18
course but um but yeah I just feel like she hasn't really been looking amazing
1:00:24
at 115 yeah I mean if if you look at what she's been doing at flyweight and then going
1:00:30
back down to 115 I'd say stay up yeah stay up you've been looking really good you've been looking strong you've been
1:00:37
winning just you know go back up there yeah back where you belong or fight
1:00:44
me chage part one that never happened the
1:00:52
prequel yeah well um yeah that's all I have for for that should we do two today
1:01:01
or girl I'm just going to eat cake well you can we'll get you a fork and a knife and
1:01:07
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