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UFC Atlanta Reactions w/ UFC vets Jessica Penne and Angela Hill
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Jun 16, 2025
Usman got the monkey off his back and by putting Buckley on his back for 4 out of 5 rounds in the dramatic fight card which was UFC Atlanta! We broke down Namajunas v Maverkick, some huge ko's on the prelims, preview UFC Baku and debate wether Bellato's big flop heard around MMA Twitter was legit or bad acting. Powered by Duelbits. Join us: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1FaPU4wQCG9RdbNlMBI-fA/join 02:40 Usman v Buckley 07:22 A monkey off your back don’t 18:53 Namajunas v Maverick 28:42 Craig v Bellato 32:18 Slowmo 38:35 Rowe v Loosa 43:44 Wellmaker v Moutinho 50:48 Demopoulos v Horth 57:48 Not the feel good links you hoped for 01:13:43 Preview UFC Baku 10:31:52 ATTN raffle winners 🚨
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wiggle that knob there you can hear it wiggle it girl it's been wiggled
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yeah we're gonna we're gonna upgrade soon soon she says by when i mean first i have to unpack
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the rest of my do you need help i can my room i can help just say when it's one of those things
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where it's like you gotta you just don't want to do it well you don't want to do it also you got
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to do it yourself so it's a bad combination leads to procrastination exactly yeah unpacking is the
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worst it hasn't been a full year yet so though so i don't feel like too bad about myself but we're
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we're getting close we're getting close to a full year in a new place and still haven't unpacked
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it's hard once you get like the things that make or it makes it livable yeah no i have all i need
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yeah i'm so comfortable i wake up i have my little coffee i hang in a garden do all these
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things that allow me to ignore the boxes in the studio yes yeah yeah but it'll happen eventually
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which reminds me i was wondering uh anytime we post something with our legs like uh like the
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shorts that we do or the little thing that we've been doing
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the, hey, guys, make sure you watch the next episode. People are like, oh, bring the legs back
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Yeah, duh. So I wanted to ask the viewers, because I feel like not having the legs out
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make us look more professional. Honey, it's what sets us apart. But viewers
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Brains and legs. Viewers, do you want to see the legs? Do you want them to come back
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because we can do like a revamping of the set if the viewers want it
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I'm pretty sure they've been letting you know that they want it for a while. It's like two people though. It's the same two hornballs
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that slid in that are helping support you from your OnlyFans. Bring back the legs so I get something free
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to to. Leave them alone. You can't hate them for trying
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They mean well. But I'm just saying, like, if you guys want us to bring a like back
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let us know in the comments. But we have some crazy fights that went down last night
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and we didn't get to put our picks out for undisclosed reasons
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at least not on our dual bits picks. But I was so wrong about Usman versus Buckley
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So wrong. Yeah. it um it was kind of baffling how it almost seemed like buckley was was unprepared yeah for the the
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level of wrestling that usman was going to bring and you gotta think who he brought in that's gonna
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be that level because there's only a handful of people who you can find who can mimic the type of
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like top pressure and aggression that the thing is at the otc there are many oh yeah there are
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Many, many high-level wrestling could bring. And they could just be specialist wrestlers. They don't have to be MMA fighters
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But I think that when you're fighting somebody with such a pedigree in any kind of discipline
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this one being Kamaru's wrestling pedigree, you have to bring someone in
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It's like that. GSP did that, and that's what took him to the next level. And his wrestling coach was not anybody who had any MMA experience
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but it gave him the pressure that he would feel what he needed to be successful
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Yeah, I think in this fight, though, you saw a lot of the really tough positions up against the fence
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So I feel like that's going to be the thing that's hard to mimic
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when you're getting ready for an Usman fight that a lot of people counted out
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because Buckley has been so good at avoiding the takedown or getting back up
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But Usman's pressure up against the fence, whether he was getting the takedown or just taking him down
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and then smashing him against the fence and putting him in this like just infinity smash
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where he's almost up, then he scoops his legs out, then he goes to the other side
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then he gets the arm trap and breaks him down. Like those are things that are more MMA-y
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but like good wrestlers are able to learn that pretty quick. so I feel like to give Buckley the benefit of the doubt I feel like even if he was training with
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really good wrestlers d1 guys like they're not going to have that same knowledge of the fence
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work and having that extra floor behind you that basically puts you back on the floor once you get
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pushed up against the cage no I see your point of view um I think this was a really hard lesson
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learned but very necessary to take buckley to the next level and we saw in the fifth round that he
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still had a lot to give in the fight and it took him all those rounds to start making those reads
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and it could be a combination of usman slowing down a little bit like that in the fifth but what
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it looked like is he was still in the fight he was still making good reads he was able to to defend
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once he had felt it and kind of got his bearings it was just a little bit too late yeah one thing
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Usman kept saying was how strong he was. And you could see that Usman
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looked really stupid strong once you actually saw Buckley defend the single leg
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Like that grip, his little ugh, this thing from, oh my god
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Like, what is that machine that pulls things? I don't know. I don't know
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There's a, I don't know, like a forklift or something. He just locks in
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and he's able to pull him in and he had to like use his entire body like buckley's entire body like flung
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backwards in order to avoid it like he had to turn into a an arrow in order to break the grip
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like you if you have to use your entire body to break a grip that's a strong strong ass grip so i
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think he made it look really easy and that's where a lot of like the commentators were were picking up
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on like oh man that was that was a really easy looking takedown from Usman you know I think it's
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just that strength factor that we haven't seen because you know he was able to get reversed
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against Leon Edwards people were judging him for that then he moved up a weight class and people
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were judging him for not beating uh Kamzat so it's like yeah he's oh and three but at the highest
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level at the highest level and also it's a weird one when you're just destroying someone you get
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knocked out at the last minute and then you have to fight him again i i think it's just like a
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strange like he kept saying get the monkey off of my back and that was those three fights you know
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like those three fights were just eating away at his confidence eating away at like his belief in
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himself and he really was able to just shuck all that off and go and do what he knew he could do
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yeah it it takes a win to get that the monkey off of your back is you know what it's referring to
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it really by the way let me warn any white fighters if you if you gonna use that term of phrase don use it when you fight a black guy because it might get misconstrued
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You might look like a homeboy with Nazi tattoos. He was like, I just thought it was a cool eagle
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It was on a poster in my wall at my grandfather's house. Yeah. I admired it ever since I was a child
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Oh, why is everyone getting so bent out of shape? I don't understand. This is a common phrase
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Everyone says that. And that phrase is as old as time. I actually wonder, like, you ever look up where the origins of sayings are from
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I wonder what that one is from. Ooh, let me look it up. Yeah, look it up. Yeah, I'm going to look it up
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But what do you think happens next for Usman? He looked amazing in this fight
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He just dominated four out of the five rounds. I think he matches up really badly
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or not really badly, but he's a nightmare for a lot of, pun intended
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for a lot of the matchups at the top five. A Nigerian nightmare, if you will
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He is a Nigerian nightmare. Of the Nigerian variety. The worst kind
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Well, we saw Bilal stepping in and chiming in really quickly after the fight
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and Kamaru expressed that he's not interested. He completely dissed him. But everybody does that in response to Bilal, to be honest
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It's just kind of like the thing to do. I would like to see that fight
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Yeah, he's definitely a Palestinian nightmare. That's where he's from, right? I know he represents Palestine
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We'll say yes. Okay. I'm sure they'll correct us if not. Sorry, guys. We can go to that too
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Okay, first we've got to figure out where Monkey on the back came from
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Yes, where that one comes from. um so Kamaru Usman is is number five above him is Leon Edwards uh Shavkat Sean Brady
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Bilal and then Jack Della Madalena um I mean I I'd like to see him against Shavkat Sean Brady
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I think Sean Brady's probably the best option to be honest I feel like he could make a statement
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I feel like that's a really good fight I feel like Sean has been climbing that ladder and just
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on the cusp of greatness and what better way to have these two fight it out to see who's top dog
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yeah i like that especially because he he did lose to uh um balal balal yeah and i think it would be
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fair i definitely think it would be a fair one um i mean i know he's not interested but i would
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actually really like to see him fight balal yeah yeah i would love to see that especially because
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there's just been so much like beef on twitter there's just like been a war of words it's just
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Yeah, it's been going on forever. Oh, really? Okay. Yeah, I do remember that
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They've just been like throwing shade at each other. I'm like, what happened? Are you like vouching to be like your manager's favorite
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Well, oh, yes. They're having like a sibling rivalry. Well, you know, it's just Ali
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I know, but they want to be his favorite. No, it's Ali signing into Bilal's Twitter, saying something
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Then he signs out, signs back in. Sometimes he s up. He quote tweets below and writes a response as Usman
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And then he's like, oh, shit. And then he deletes it. So you never know, man
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You never know. So there's a lot of things explaining the meaning, but I can't find the origin
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Well, I did, but it was mostly about origin. Okay. Originally, to have a monkey on one's back or a black monkey on one's back referred sulking or being lost in anger
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During the 1930s, this idiom was transferred to drug addiction, specifically heroin addiction
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It has since been transferred to any general longstanding problem. Like the most likely explanation for this idiom is that a monkey refers to the devil
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monkeys have often throughout history been associated with evil the devil heresy black
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people no i'm joking it is and other and other irreligious concepts this is possibly because
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monkeys appear to be some kind of distorted caricature of humans as well the devil has okay
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this is enough all right so yeah it's just one of those things where it's like a monkey is
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freaks people out. Monkeys freak people out. It's like that uncanny thing
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Yeah. Sure. Vampires and shit and how the uncanny makes it freaky and people
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are scared of it. So yeah. Interesting. Well, I learned something today. And as did
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all of we. Anyway. And what do you think is next for Buckley
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after this fight? I don't think this damages his his standing as you know greatly but I think it does take away a bit of his momentum
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I could see him fighting you know somebody still in in the top 10 but maybe not necessarily moving
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up the ladder as quickly as he wanted to like this would have been a another this would have
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been a huge statement for him to you know to say like hey I I get the title shot next or I get to
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fight um who was it uh you know ian machado gary uh but you know we'll we'll see what happens with
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him i think that it would be fun to see him fight let's see who let's take a look at the list take
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a look am i crazy for still thinking that he could hang with shavkat yes because we've seen shavkat
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get roughed up on the feet. Yeah, but I still think, like, especially after this fight
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I think this is the wake-up call that Buckley needed. For sure, that's what I mean
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It's a hard lesson. Yeah, to get those reps in, especially up against the fence
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against someone who's such a pressure fighter. He has to do what Bilal did
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what a lot of these guys did, and get the Dagestanis out
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and have them teach him the ways of just, like, that pressure game, that handcuff game, the mermaid legs game
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Like that was all stuff that we've seen Khabib do over and over again to people
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And if you don't have someone who's able to mimic that and you're fighting someone who's good at that
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then you're going to drown so fast. So I think that's the wake up call that he needed to go find a team where he can just wrap that out for a few months
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And then once you have it, it's kind of there, you know, like you're you're suddenly hard to keep down
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because you understand how they're doing it. You can even do it yourself. And yeah, I think after a few months of training like that
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I feel like his striking is still going to be a problem for Shavka
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especially if he's able to fix those holes in this Usman fight. This was a necessary lesson that he needed to learn
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It exposed a gap in his game, which we really haven't seen before
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And to get him to the next level, this is what he needs. So I think that this loss is a great learning experience for him
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But I think somebody like Shavkat would be a tough fight for him after what we saw I think that the fight they going to make Shavkat been injured too Usman is in the picture He trying to jump the ladder or jump the line and fight whoever
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whoever beats, you know, Jack Della and who is it? Islam. But they could drop him
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I mean, they could drop him all the way down to, I mean, not his ranking necessarily
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but they could give him somebody in the top 15, the top 10. And I want to see him fight maybe like a Carlos Pratis
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Yeah, that'd be great. I think that would be a fun fight. They're both coming off of a loss, but they're still very tough fighters
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And each one of them had fights where a weakness was exposed
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So I think that that would be a great fight. Yeah. I feel like it's going to happen, though, the Shavka one
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especially because you have the 19-0 guy. You want to give him somebody who you think that he can beat
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so he can continue to have this reign of undefeatedness. I feel like that might be the next one
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It could be something like a Tatiana Suarez situation, though, where they don't want to ruin that undefeated fighter mystique
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Do you know what I'm saying? That's true, because they do know he has that button. We shall see
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We shall see. But yeah, great fight. The emotions afterwards was really, really sweet, too
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I love seeing a man show his emotions. I know. I love seeing a man cry
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Cry for me, daddy. Yes. I love it. Yeah, he blames it on being a girl, dad
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But come on, bro. You were crying before you had kids. You're a sweetheart
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It's okay. It's okay to be like. You beat people up at the highest level
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You can cry. Give yourself permission to do whatever you want. I know
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It's fine. We love it. Yeah. I love seeing that emotion from him because you see how hard he had to work to get there
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Like, I still say he didn't use his knees at all when he wrestled Buckley
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When you're at that high a level of a wrestling, you don't have to use the knees. He was either bending at the waist or he would spring forward like a cat
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It's that Olympian style wrestling. He was like a panther. He just went boing, didn't have to bend his knees at all
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just shot him for those legs and was able to, like, ring him in like a frigging bull rider
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You know? It was really impressive. It makes me want to get better at not using my knees to take down
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You're like, I don't need to do this. It's like, wait, I don't have to do squats? Like, what
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But, yeah, you know, those wrestling practices had to have been hell on his body
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just figuring out what works and what doesn't, just working around an injury
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I know we've all been there before where it's just so tough to feel as strong and as capable as you did when you were at 100%
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And he was even in the press conference, he was even saying, like, let's not lie here
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Like, obviously I'm not where I was in my prime. You know, obviously I'm not where I was when I was defending the belt
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but I'm still that guy. He's probably less than 70% right now
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He's probably a solid 68. Is he close to 30 or is he far away
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Oh, man. Somewhere in between. But it was really cool seeing him show that for a second
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And I'm excited for him. I'm happy for him. Even though I was rooting for Buckley, there's a part, I always get a little misty-eyed when the older guy gets the win and shows that he's still got the juice
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So, yeah, excited for that one. Or excited for what's next for him
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But what did you think about the co-main? The co-main, we had the ladies representing in the flyweight division
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I thought Rose Nama Yuna's looked really good, but it was a hard-fought fight. Miranda Maverick gave her fits in some areas
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I was not sure how the judges would score it, to be honest
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It could have gone either way in maybe the first. Yeah. And, you know, it came down to the third, in my opinion
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And, I mean, the third, Rose turned it up when she found her rhythm, when she figured out how best to work with it
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It's kind of weird fighting somebody that you've trained with because maybe in the training room you can, you know, get away with certain things
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and people aren't going 100%. They're, you know, maybe trying something, working on something
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so they're leaving some openings that, you know, maybe won't be there in the fight
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But it looked like Miranda Maverick was giving her a harder time than maybe Rose anticipated
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Yeah, well, Miranda was full of confidence going into this one. I was able to talk to her before she fought
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And she was just saying how they trained together for a long time
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And it didn't faze her at all. It was she knew where she would win
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She felt like she would win in the grappling department. She felt like Rose would win in the striking department
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And honestly, like I felt like Rose there. There was more competitiveness in the grappling department
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But I feel like she was a little surprised when Rose was able to like escape out of that deep head and arm
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choke was able to get on top at some points was able to wrestle her down like i don't think the
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maverick was fully prepared for rose to be as good as she was it was kind of surprising yeah we we see
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rose get the takedown but we don't see a lot of like the crazy grappling exchanges so i can
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understand how it was a little bit surprising to maverick and honestly i think maverick goes
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into fights usually having a strength advantage and it didn't really work for her this time
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And that's the other thing when you're training with people, you fight at the same weight class
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but you don't always walk at the same weight class. There are girls who I see that I fought
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and I'm like, who's that? All the time. Who's that guy? All the time
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I'm like, what do you walk around at? And I'm like, yo, you're bigger than my husband
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What are you doing at 115? And yeah, they're used to being hefty
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They're used to being able to throw around that weight in the training room. Yeah. And then when you make weight, it equalizes it
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Yes, you can put on more weight than, you know, a smaller person in the weight class
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but it still equalizes it in a way that can be a bit surprising
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Yeah. Like you're not suddenly throwing an extra 20 pounds around against this person you're fighting
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It's only like 10 at the most. Like usually like people don't rehydrate to more than like, I don't know, 10, 12
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Yeah. But if you're a female, men's a little bit different. Yeah, you can see it sometimes
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They can pack that poundage on, retain the water weight. But females typically, you know, it's going to be plus or minus 10
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Yeah, yeah. So it's not going to be as big of a difference in the training room
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And yeah, it was interesting to hear talk about training together because the veteran in me is like ooh girl she tricked you she like I know where I win and I know where she wins and I going in there really confident about this this this And I like that a trap
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That's a trap. Listen, it's very important to know those kinds of things
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when you're, you know, breaking down a fight, when you're studying footage, when you're preparing. You need to know your strengths, your weaknesses
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where you can win, where your opponent can win, and then you train accordingly
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If you don't, you can end up in trouble as we saw with Buckley versus Usman
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Yeah. But you cannot, you should not overestimate. Yes. You have to be prepared for everything
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But I think she did flow well in the fight. She looked a little uncomfortable on the feet
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more than she usually does. And I think that kind of stemmed from whatever past experiences she had sparring Rose on the feet
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But I think once you got to the last round, she really like went after her
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I was surprised that people thought that she won the first round. I thought it was a little back and forth, but I thought Rose had the bigger moments
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And then I wasn't sure what was going to happen with the second round because Rose was pretty much dominating until like the last minute
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See, it's those last moments of the round that always worry me
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because that's what the judges are going to be distracted by in my mind
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The first round, I just look. So what I saw in the first round, and I didn't know how it would be scored
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is Rose is more of a precision volume striker at that point
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And the things that Miranda were doing were bigger and more powerful
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So I didn't know what would be more attractive to the judges
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One thing that clued me in was when she dropped her in the third, and all the commentators were like, what
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What hit her? You didn't even see it. It's too fast to see it. And these guys actually train and watch fights
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So what do you think the judges saw that entire round where she's hitting her quick little switch jabs
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and check hooks and all that stuff? They're missing it too. They're like wiping their glasses off and yawning
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and eating their hard candies and missing all the fast stuff that happens
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You know, I haven't heard Adelaide Byrd's name mentioned in a while. Speaking of glasses and candies
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Yeah, I know. I think it's been a while. I feel like those are all Adelaide Bird. Her driver's license finally got revoked and she can't make it to the events
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No. What will the MMA world do without her? Darn. Yeah. It's harder to judge a strawweight fight, a flyweight men's fight
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like all the speedy guys. It's harder to judge those guys than like a heavyweight fight
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because everything happens in a split second. and if you blink, you miss it
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Oh, I had to wait for the replay. I didn't see it. I was like, I saw it
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I saw that shit, and y'all miss it every time, and that's the problem with MMA judging
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They miss that shit. The person who got hit remembered it. But, yeah, it was a good fight
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and I saw that Rose was calling for, or saying that she wanted a title fight next
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but she's just going to see what's offered to her. She's just saying what she wants, putting it out there
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I don't know if she expects it, but she's just willing it. Which I think is smart
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Just say that you're interested just in case there's an opportunity, even if you don't think they're going to give it to you
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I don't think they'll give it to her just yet. Yeah, she's pretty far down
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I think there are other fights to make. I would love to see her fight. Blunt Jess. Sorry
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Sorry, and I'm rooting for Rose. I love watching her fight. I want to see her climb the ladder
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I'm, you know, I'm absolutely rooting for her. I just think that from what we've seen from who she's lost to in her performances and stuff
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I don't think it will happen right now. Not saying that it couldn't
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I just don't think that it will because there are other people in line
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But I would love to see her fight Jasmine. I would say Macy, but I don't see Macy being
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booked anytime soon with her health issues yeah um it's it's one of those things where
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you gotta wonder how long she stays up in the rankings too if she's not able to compete if
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she's not able to show up for fights um it and that part always would frustrate me with the
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rankings and stuff when you have someone who's really inactive and looking at someone like
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Usman is totally different because he became champion. You know, he's up there for a reason
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But when you look at someone like Macy, it's like she's been there
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but not really. It's kind of how I felt about Amanda Rebus, too
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She's been up there, but not really fighting often. And in two weight classes
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Yeah. So it's kind of like how is this person able to remain up there
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when there's people who are winning and losing, but still being more active and getting better wins, it just, you know
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I get what you're saying. I get what you're saying. It sucks. Yeah, it's fair
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It's a fair question. So, yeah, I think, you know, with time, she'll probably slide down
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But, yeah, everyone's kind of TBD right now from number seven, which is Rose to Shevchenko
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So we'll see who ends up getting booked. We will see. We shall see
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Yeah, and she's fought everyone. She's fought Manon. She fought Blanchfield. Grasso, she hasn't fought yet, right
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Yes. That would be fun. That could be a fun one, too. I vote for Jasmine Justivicious or Alexa Grasso
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Those are my picks. Yeah, I would be happy with either. I would be happy with you on that
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Well, we had some other pretty fun fights. But one fight I want to talk about is our homie
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Who's our homie? Well, my homie, Paul Craig, in that ridiculous DQ that happened
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Well, not a DQ. It was a no contest. No contest that happened. But the thing is, so we just determined that a no contest is accidental
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There was nothing accidental about that up kick. I'm sorry, there was not
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He might have said that. You're just saying that because you're his friend. Well, I'm saying that because I've done it before
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And like when somebody stands up and then sits back down in your guard
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you're not really paying attention to the fact that they're back down on their knees
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Like you're up kicking them to get them off of you. So like right before that happened, he stands up, he throws some punches
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then he gets down on his knees. Like there was a moment where I was like, oh, maybe it wasn't accidental
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because it looked like he was about to stand up again, but he didn't
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It was a direct hit. He was still on his knees. But he didn't hit his head
29:43
The replays show that he hit him in the neck. He hit him here
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He hit him in the neck. He hit him here. You could see a clear neck hit
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Oh, I saw it. Yeah, I saw it. I slowed it down. I was like, that's a neck
29:57
It looked very dramatic. with, you know, from impact to falling to like it
30:07
It was very confusing. I was annoyed because I remembered seeing him look at the ref
30:14
but then I blinked and he was unconscious on the floor. And then he tried to leg attack the ref
30:21
And for a long time. He was going at it. I was like, wow, his like maybe he did get hit really freaking hard
30:29
I've never seen, have you ever seen someone attack the ref for that long
30:33
I mean, I've seen people attack the ref. I've never seen him go, hey, ref, what's going on
30:40
And then wake up, huh, where am I? Am I in the desert
30:45
Okay, I'm going to wrestle you. Like, the timing of all his things that he remembered people doing
30:51
when they got knocked out was not the same as what we've seen
30:56
So what I'm hearing you say is you don't believe him. Do you think he was faking it
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I don't know. I wasn't in his head. It looked really confusing and dramatic and big
31:05
Maybe I should pull it up again for you. I watched it a few times
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Oh, God. I did watch it a few times. Listen, I don't know how I would act if I just got hit with a 4x4
31:17
I don't know. I know how Kayla Harrison acted. She was like, hey, tell your girl to stop doing that
31:25
different different size leg creates different size impact i mean that they're the leg to head
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ratio is about the same though it the the optics did not look great um i can understand how there's
31:39
a lot of people that are buzzing about him acting i completely understand but what i will say which
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impressed me so much was paul craig in his post-fight interview he's just all class the whole
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time and just acknowledging that he made a foul he made a mistake and he's not going he hasn't seen
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it so he's not going to be like reactive and judgmental to what happened and i just if i was
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not wait till he sees it if i wasn't a fan of him before that was that was the face wait for the
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slow-mo okay listen as i was saying if i wasn't a fan of him before i'm a fan of him now because
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the way he handled everything was very graceful. Neck. And very respectful
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That's afterwards. Look. Oh. Slow it down. Oh, wait. Hold on. I'm going to make this big
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Okay. Make it big. Neck. It's his face. It was his neck
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It was his neck. He looks at the ref. It hit the neck and the face
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A toe might have grazed the face, but that was his neck
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Listen, I understand. You love Yusuf Bilado, man. You're like. No. Look, that is his neck
32:57
I can't even see. He turned for it. He turned and it hit his neck
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Listen, I see a lot of fighters being, you know. That was his neck
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Listen, I see a lot of fighters getting fouled and then people say that they're like dramatizing
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And I think some of them do. I think some fighters dramatize
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He makes eye contact. He tries to attack the leg. and then he continues to attack them
33:24
That is ridiculous, Jessica. I can't believe you're defending this guy. I'm just saying I don't know
33:31
I can't wait for Paul Craig to see the replay. Like, I wish I could be there in person so you go
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oh, that's a load of shit. He'd call it bollocks. That's what they say in Scotland, bollocks
33:47
I like it. Yeah, that was ridiculous. When I saw it live, I was just like, that doesn't wait
33:52
Why is he still going? Come on. That doesn't look normal. And then seeing the slow motion replay, I was just like, man
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No, it was. He was trying to game it. But I feel like the commission did a good job because they could have ruled it a DQ, like you're saying
34:08
but because I feel like the unintentional shot thing happened because they could smell that something fishy was going on with his reaction
34:21
I think that they did the right thing. In the heat of the fight, things can happen
34:31
and I don't think it was necessarily intentional, although it looked like a direct hit
34:34
The replay shows a little bit something different. But again, what I wanted to get across is a lot of people want to jump on fighters for trying to game the system or trying to take advantage of a foul
34:48
And I just want to err on the side of caution and just like give people the benefit of the doubt
34:52
For sure. Good for you. You're such a high horse. but we've watched a lot of fights and it if you're going from past like what you've seen
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people do in the past like even looking at a johnny walker knockout highlight reel like you're
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gonna see a lot of weird reactions but what he did did not make sense it was confusing what he
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did not make sense he he had time to look at the ref flop down unconscious wake up make eye contact
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with the ref, grab his leg, make eye contact with him again
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then start trying to leg lock him. Like it was really, really strange
35:33
It looked like you were playing the UFC game and your fighter's glitching. Yeah
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No, exactly. You're just like, wait, why is his head underneath the canvas
35:41
How did that happen? No, it's by far the strangest reaction I've ever seen
35:46
And we've seen fighters react in funny ways, but just not all in sequence like that
35:54
It was either like one or the other or the other. Especially if he's going to benefit from this guy really getting the book thrown at him for landing that shot
36:03
Like that's what makes it fishy. No, I totally understand. Because if it was a DQ, he's either going to take a point or they're going to stop it and he gets to win
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But I think he was going to win anyways. I'm just saying he was gaming it
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He could be. Totally could be. I'm just, I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt for right now
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Moving on. Yeah. Because that boy was acting his ass off
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And you know it. You just don't want to admit it. Well, I don't know for sure
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I wasn't in his head. I wasn't there. I was not in his head. I don't know
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But it did look bad. I will say that. You went to the, never mind
36:56
There's a stupid show, the Harley Quinn show, and it's like Harley Quinn and Poison Ivy
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And it's like a cartoon, but we watch all the seasons. It's pretty funny
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And the dynamic between Harley Quinn, aside from them being a lesbian couple
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the dynamic between Harley Quinn and Poison Ivy actually reminds me of us
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So I would watch this show, and there's a character on there called Clayface
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and he an actor in the show And so in my head I was like he went to the the Clayface acting school like because he a really bad actor Aww
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I have been attacked! And then he'd fall over. Who are you
37:39
Are you my opponent? Let me leg lock you. Like, that's what it looked like
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I'll have to watch it. It looked really bad. But yeah, I think you would enjoy that show. It was a good show
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Anything with Harley Quinn and Poison Ivy. Yeah. Probably enjoy. I used to watch the
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the cartoons when I was little And I used to always like really perk up when they, when they had a, you know, a bit
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No, it's made for our generation that watch it when we're little, but now we're growing
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up and we have like grown up like senses of humor. Yeah, it was really good
38:07
That sounds appealing. Yeah. So like I actually wasn't super like, you know, grabbed by a lot of the main event fights
38:17
They were really good. No, the preliminary card was better. The prelims just outshone them just with the finishes
38:25
Even the decisions were really heavily contested. But there were a couple feel-good moments for me in the prelims
38:34
The first one was Philip Rowe beating Ang Lusa. That was such a crazy comeback fight
38:42
And then he had reached out to me. I think he was reaching out to a lot of people
38:47
just because he was kind of stuck on the shelf for a year
38:52
and he felt ready to go and he wasn't sure what was going on
38:56
But time kept passing and they kept, you know, saying that they were looking, they were looking
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And as someone who, you know, loves to be active, I'm always in the gym, I'm like, I felt horrible for them
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because you only have a small window of time where you feel like you're at your prime, you know
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Like, and if you're going into the gym, If you're training every day, you feel hungry and confident and you feel good
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There's no telling when an injury is going to pop up. There's no telling when you're just going to fall off and then the opportunity comes
39:30
So he was just having a lot of trouble nailing down that next fight. And I feel like he thought he was on the chopping block if he lost this fight
39:37
There was a lot going through his head coming into this one. And you could tell because that first round and a half
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he was really just struggling. You know, he was on his back
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He was stuck. He wasn't really able to, like, you could tell he, it didn't look like he was unprepared
39:56
It just looked like Inglosa was really good at holding him down. And I mean, he was pretty vocal about it after his fight
40:03
that he said that he had not been able to show his true self
40:07
and he felt down and frustrated about it. And that could have been his inner dialogue going into that first round and experiencing that
40:15
And whatever it was that shifted that was great because he ended up having a great performance
40:20
His boxing in the pocket looked great. He ended up getting, what was it, a TKO
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Yeah. He ended up getting the TKO. Once he just made that decision inside of his head, I feel like the whole landscape of the fight changed
40:37
Yeah. And sometimes, you know, saying making the decision can seem less complicated than it is
40:47
No, it's hard. But it's like it's not easy when you're when you're being smashed and it feels like it's impossible to move this guy
40:55
Sometimes you just got to like move your hips to the side and then you're like, oh, I can breathe again
41:01
You know, like, oh, there's space. But it like it literally feels like impossible
41:06
a lot of times. Your corner is telling you what to do and you can hear them
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but it's just like, bro, like it's not working or it's not going to work or like, I don't know
41:14
like just shut up and let me think. And I felt like he was able
41:18
to go into that last round and really open up. He was having success
41:22
in the second round too, but then there's this one position that I always tell people
41:28
like be careful if you're going there like that Muay Thai plum
41:32
because with the big gloves, this is really safe. Yeah. You know, like you can block with your shoulders
41:38
There's not as much space. But with the little gloves, like you can have someone's head down and they can reach around, especially when they're built like Ang Lusa, who's just like a little like a little rock with long arms
41:49
You can punch over like that. And that actually hurts you. Like that actually does some damage
41:54
So he got a little hurt there, but was able to come back. And in that third, like especially after he knocked his mouthpiece out, he went to town on dude
42:04
Like it was it was a real like I felt bad for Lusa because that was the most brutal finish that I've seen in a long time, especially a TKO
42:13
Like, yeah, you have brutal like one punch knockouts, but a TKO where he's just pounding his face over and over again against the fence
42:21
His hands is not in his eyes, but his fingers like across his eyes
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It's almost like those torture scenes you see in movies where they have the eyes taped open
42:32
Clockwork orange. Yes, yes. You can't close your eye even though you know you're about to get punched in it
42:37
He's just like, ah! It was so brutal. I loved it. And the whole time I'm like, his teeth, his teeth, oh my God
42:46
But he got that knockout. He got that big comeback. And I'm really happy for him because he went through so much emotionally getting into this fight
42:56
And it's like a lot of people are going through the stuff that Usman went through on a much lower scale
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and it almost feels more desolate because you're not getting paid as much
43:06
You haven't made a name for yourself yet. You don't know if you're ever going to be able to
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It's really heart-wrenching to go through that whole process. So I was really happy for him
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Yeah, and I mean it is an individual kind of frustration. No matter where you're at, if it's happening to that person
43:25
it's always bigger than what it is. You know, it's at whatever phase you are in your career, it's it's yours
43:33
So it's even more frustrating and devastating and under a microscope. Yeah. So, yeah, that was a that was a cool knockout to watch
43:44
And then the other one, of course, was the Wellmaker knockout of poor Chris Motino
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Man, it was hard for me to. motino um it's really hard for me to i don't know to enjoy it yeah well that's the thing that's what
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i'm saying like i feel like everyone's going through something so i can't even watch a fight
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and fully enjoy like i say i enjoyed that ing lusa knockout but at the same time i'm like oh his poor
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teeth i hope they're still intact oh his eye eyes he might have like a cornea crack a cornea scrape
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because his eye was being held open as he was getting punched in it
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Like, oh, man, he was doing so well in the first and second. You know, like, I go to both sides
44:29
I become both fighters' moms, you know? I'm just like, oh, poor baby
44:33
I experience the same thing. So it's like I can see how much of, like, an amazing experience this is for Malcolm Wellmaker
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You know, on the Contender Series, gets this big TKO win in his previous fight
44:44
He gets the 50K. He quits his job. He calls his shot to get on the Atlanta card
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short notice. Now he's there. He gets the big knockout. Like what an amazing experience for him
44:54
But then you look at Chris Motino and it like he called on short notice He already been cut from the UFC He had a streak of wins on the local circuit so he gets the shot
45:08
But again, he's stepping up on short notice against a killer in a weight class that is too big for him, and he gets flattened again
45:16
Yeah, it's really a shame because looking at his topology, he was on a five-fight win streak, and it's not against chumps
45:24
A lot of times people say fight, fight, win streak outside of UFC, and I'm like, who are they
45:29
But these guys had good records, most of them winning records. If not, the only one that wasn't a winning record
45:36
or the only couple that weren't winning records, they still had a ton of fights in them
45:40
So it was pretty crazy. Elijah Harris. Who dat? That's like a heavyweight
45:48
Oh, wait, no, there's a different Elijah Harris. Okay. There can be two
45:53
I'm like, what weight class was he fighting in? Yeah, so he was fighting good guys
45:57
He did exactly what he needed to do to get back into UFC. Like, he fought guys with good records, with a lot of wins on their topology
46:06
and he finished all of them. And then he gets back, and he gets the roughest welcoming party
46:13
I mean, when I got cut from the UFC, I went on a four-fight, one-streak
46:17
I won the Invicta title, and then they were like, oh, cool
46:22
Your prize is to come back and fight Jessica and Drodd. She needs a tune-up fight before she fights for the belt
46:28
And I'm like, sign me up. Yes, girl. You're not going to turn down the opportunity to get back into the UFC
46:36
So it's understandable that he would step up on short notice. He would take this risk against this upcoming fighter
46:43
who the UFC is happy to push and give a platform for. It's just still, when you look at the reality of the situation
46:51
it's it's a hard one yeah it is it is but uh on the wellmaker side what a freaking story uh
47:00
what a come up this guy like they need to protect him at all costs like he is so just humble it
47:11
seems like like his energy is amazing but like i love everything that he said in his post fight
47:15
press he's like i don't care who's next the only people that matter to me the only names that
47:20
matter to me are the names in this cage with me i was like oh no he's he's a kid you want to root
47:28
for oh my goodness he is and i'm just like dude this is this is the type of person that i want to
47:36
root for even though they just got onto the scene you know like he's he's um you know getting these
47:42
really crazy knockouts he looks really comfortable in there just feel that he commands the space
47:48
really well he works on his face he sets traps and yeah I'm I'm interested to see how he looks
47:55
once he gets tested a little bit more because I feel like his power is going to be something that
48:00
a lot of people are going to be afraid of and I hope like the same thing doesn't happen with him
48:04
that happened with someone like in Adrian Yanez where the hype train kind of came before you know
48:11
he was ready for the huge test I feel like Yanez could have been protected a little bit more on his
48:17
way up and then gotten those big shots that he ended up dropping but uh i think with well maker
48:24
i'd like to see them see them allow him to just get his wins it's kind of like the uh
48:31
like the sean o'malley thing that he said he's like why am why would i fight ranked guys if i'm
48:36
not making ranked guy money you know well and i think uh fair enough i think someone like well
48:42
maker could definitely make a lot of money in the ufc especially how high people are on him
48:47
But I think they have to be selective with the fights that they take
48:51
so he doesn't get too much too soon. I think they will be. I think that they do a good job for the most part of, like
48:59
cultivating their Contender Series products. Products. Yeah. That's a factory. Oh, we got another one fresh off the presser
49:11
Well, I mean, that's the trend that I'm seeing. Yeah. If you're on the contender series, you make a big statement
49:17
They are happy to kind of, like, guide you to success until a certain point
49:23
And then, you know, it's sink or swim time. Yeah, for sure. And I'm hoping he gets a lot of time to get to that point
49:31
But that was a really nice knockout. The way he set it up, he was just landing body shots the whole time
49:37
landing his stab kicks, which I love, And then using that like back foot to set up the big right hand
49:46
It was just so nasty. And the way that he whips it around, it comes from like back here
49:52
But it's so fast. Like you're looking at the knee. So he has time to load it up
49:56
And just that whip on his right hand is insane. Yeah, he did a great job
50:00
He made great reads. He seems like very educated beyond his years
50:06
Yeah, he does. And I remember being really hype on the kid that he made do a cartwheel before he fought him
50:13
Like, even though he's fighting people in the same kind of generation as him
50:20
he's still doing crazy things that no one else has been able to do to these fighters
50:26
Like Sean O'Malley fought Chris Motino and had a much tougher time putting him out
50:32
yeah so this is a this is an awesome kid to keep an eye on especially because he's just so likable
50:38
and you just want to see him do well i agree uh any other fights that popped out to you
50:43
not really should we talk about uh vanessa demopoulos taking her short notice fight
50:52
against jamie lynn horth and doing the homer simpson run on the cage the way she was climbing
50:59
onto the cage and then like falling to half guard or to like side yeah like uh she gave her side
51:06
control yes but but she was just being creative and trying to do what she possibly could because
51:13
she's doesn't have great striking and she's the shorter fighter and she doesn't have great
51:20
takedowns against a big strong fighter who has range on her so she was just trying to do whatever
51:26
And I respect that and I can appreciate that. She was being creative
51:31
But when you are the smaller fighter and you are not as well-rounded
51:36
and you're going up against somebody who has size, length, and weight on you
51:41
it's going to be a tough night. So you're going to have to pull out all the tricks. Yeah, that was definitely a trick
51:48
It was a trick. But I don't remember if that's how they ended up on the ground when she hit it
51:56
But she tried to go for like a flower sweep. And it looked like if she had a little bit more time, she could have got it in there
52:02
That what was that in the first round? I'm like, oh, OK
52:05
Like it does look like Horth is a little afraid or was a little afraid of her ground game after that
52:12
Like she was a lot less willing to go for her own takedowns, less willing to like engage in the clinch at all
52:20
And I feel like I lost a little respect for horse striking because my dude like she that knee that she was throwing like she leaning back and throwing a knee at the same time and it just looked like there was no power on it
52:35
It must have landed on Demopolis' head five times and nothing happened
52:40
I felt like they're, and I think Demopolis does this to everyone
52:47
but because of her pressure, because she just rushes forward, She has no respect for getting punched in the face by you
52:57
or kicked in the body by you. Yeah, she's like, I love it
53:01
Do it again. She doesn't care. So I think that throws a lot of people off
53:08
And yeah, it seemed like Horth was having a lot of trouble finding the mark
53:13
But even when she did, it didn't seem like she really committed to anything
53:18
And they were saying like, oh, she looks really great under striking. But like, it really makes me think, oh, man, like I bet if someone thinks they're the better striker in her size, they they could probably like, you know, show out against her
53:33
Potentially. Yeah, because a lot of the stuff that was landing for Horth, it didn't really seem to make much of an impact
53:39
So so that was interesting to me. So I'm wondering what people try to do against her going forward after seeing this fight
53:47
But Demopolis, she did what she had to do. She was scrappy. She was durable
53:51
I'm like, who has a harder head? Like her head was extra hard in this fight
53:59
And she used every brain cell in order to get in and try to do something
54:05
So good on her. Are there any other fights you want to talk about
54:13
Or do you want to go to my list of links? I could talk about Adam changing the channel before Jose Ochoa
54:22
knocked out Cody Durden. I was pretty pissed about that. Couldn't watch the playback
54:28
So there were, yeah, but it's always cool to watch a knockout live
54:33
But we had a bunch of fights on at the same time. There was Dirty Boxing
54:38
There was BKFC. And then there was this one. And Adam's flipping through, and he's like
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oh dirty boxing let's watch so-and-so fight so-and-so i'm like i don't know who these people
54:51
are turn back and he's like oh yeah and turns back and in which was knocked him out he's like
54:57
giving him a hug god damn it i don't even remember do you remember what he knocked him out with
55:02
i think i wrote it down hold on maybe looking that the first round though was pretty nuts i
55:12
remember just thinking dude this guy's not gonna stop throwing any throwing punches and kicks he
55:18
was just spamming like just hitting all the buttons and not getting tired i thought he was
55:23
gonna gas out after the first round and a half yeah so he he caught him with a nasty left hand
55:30
and then it was i think um a flurry got him down and i think he got back up knocked him down with
55:38
another left oh nice i'm pretty sure i'm sure they'll correct me thank you thank you jess
55:44
and no thanks to adam watching wanting to watch jesse jess fight oh how'd she do i don't remember
55:53
i think she won i'm pretty sure she won yeah the girl the girl didn't look like much of a threat
55:59
from what i saw i got you yeah she's teeing off on her yeah we heard um we heard heidi's voice
56:06
on that yeah and i noticed quite a few people uh well not quite a few i noticed rose and buckley
56:14
oh nice giving shouts about heidi yeah throughout fight week good nice yeah i heard rose in her
56:20
post-fight speech say uh we miss you heidi so hopefully that gets a little more attention heidi
56:26
dean is one of the women who worked behind the scenes very diligently to make sure everything
56:32
was run smoothly uh she recently got let go um reasons uh were just like kind of weird so we're
56:42
trying to campaign to get her back on there but she didn't do anything wrong they just decided
56:47
they didn't need her anymore and and all the fighters are in disagreement with that we need her
56:53
she's one of those people that just made everything run smoothly and and she did it with with grace
57:00
and care like nobody else can. So it's, she's missed, her energy is missed
57:05
Her presence is, I think, necessary. But it's nice to always hear her voice
57:11
You know, we can like spot it out of a crowd. So I heard her behind the scenes
57:15
at the weigh-ins of Dirty Boxing. Yeah, she's the three, look over here
57:20
three, two, one, thank you, baby. Like she's, that's the woman on the
57:24
all the weigh-in videos that you see before they let her go
57:29
which was only a few weeks ago. So hopefully they bring her back. She's dearly missed
57:33
I'm sad about possibly going to a fight week without her being there
57:39
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So what links you got? I need something like feel goody after talking about that
57:50
I'm sad. I miss Heidi. I need something to lift my spirits before you dash them again
57:57
Well, I don't know if this will lift your spirits, but it might give you a little laugh
58:03
Two Brazilian politicians settled a spute over a water park conservation project by fighting each other in a three-round MMA fight
58:11
Yes, that was so funny. So I read this on, like, my liberal news, The Guardian, and they were kind of upset about it
58:23
They're like, what does this mean? What's going to happen? This is Bolsonaro's fault. and I'm like this is kind of funny like let him fight it out especially when you see the fight
58:33
it's so bad like have you ever seen um I think it was like in Japan and they were doing like judo
58:43
like men in suits doing judo and this is like years and years ago men in suits doing judo
58:47
taking people down because they can't come to an agreement it was like at one of those like
58:51
meetings right it looked like a un meeting or something they had a desk and i know i know what
58:57
you're talking about i love when people get unprofessional like i think the professionalism
59:03
of like government and politics is so fake and that's why someone like trump was able to win
59:10
because he like broke the rules all the time and everyone's like this isn't how it's supposed to be
59:15
but like in some senses it is like interesting when people just say what the they mean
59:21
And, you know, like I swear, if the Democrats did that, then we wouldn't be where we are today
59:27
But like it's one of those things where, yeah, just like take your shirts off and punch each other
59:33
I love it. You know, how great is that? I think people would mind their P's and Q's a lot more if they knew that you could potentially get punched in the face
59:42
Yes. Like act right. Yes. Yo, do it. That's what I'm saying
59:47
I think they're on to something. I feel like we should have matches every, like, what is it
59:52
What is the thing that happens where they're all talking about stuff and trying to pass bills
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And any time that happens and you see like the senators going off on each other is like, you know how we'll settle this
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Five or three fives. Fight club. Three fives and then a cage drops down in the middle
1:00:15
Go. It was always, it was always funny. You know, back when I was, you know, a young fighter and I was teaching at different gyms
1:00:27
what would happen sometimes is we would have this is obviously like not a legal operation
1:00:33
but we used to have like little fight clubs and it was usually people it was either like
1:00:39
frats or uh like during like hazing or there were some people that would just run out the gym
1:00:45
because they wanted to like have fights so it would be one minute rounds you know people would
1:00:51
hold mitts for them a little bit they give them like headgear mouthpiece boxing gloves and you
1:00:56
just duke it out it was hilarious it's like your own little street beefs yes yeah back before the
1:01:04
street beefs were beefing well that's like the origin right everyone knew a place where you could
1:01:09
do that or like heard of a place where that was happening they're like oh now we can watch it on
1:01:15
youtube now we don't have to be from that town to see the fights yeah i think it's a good way to
1:01:22
settle things too because after you fight someone or like it's like when you're mad at a training
1:01:28
partner and then you spar really hard and you're just like it's fine it's cool i got my licks in
1:01:35
so does she it's all good now it's like one of those moments um and i think a lot of a lot of uh
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stuff is i don't know it just it just gives gives a finite end to something like that like hey we
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You may not agree, but this is what's going to happen right now. Let's duke it out
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Fair and square. Yeah. Yeah. Let's just fight it out. And then if you want to change it, we can get a rematch going
1:02:00
I did hear that he got robbed, though. I did read. I forget which politician it was, but I think the one who wanted to open the water park or something got robbed
1:02:13
And so the other guy still was able to get what he wanted, even though he lost the fight
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That's politics for you. I know. It's still politics. We can't escape politics
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I hate it. You got to finish the fight. You have to finish your walls, too
1:02:29
I know. Well, I actually don't have any feel-good stuff. God damn it, Jess
1:02:34
I know. I know. All right. Hit me with some misery. I'm sorry
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All right. This one, $56 million lawsuit, jiu-jitsu beginner paralyzed by his own coach
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So this happened in Delmar. years ago this happened a long time ago at a uh it's del mar jujitsu and um this had been buzzing
1:02:56
all over like all over san diego county for a while and probably in the jujitsu community but
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there was a jujitsu coach in del mar that did a move to um somebody who was like very very new on
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the mats and he did a move that rolled his neck and this is the first time i've actually seen the
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footage of it oh what did it look like oh girl it was it it was not a move that you should ever do
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to a white belt because they don't know how to move their bodies properly it's like a fancy
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show-off move and you see it just snapped his neck um so this person was wait do that again
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how did that happen he was doing so he had turtle and he was doing um this like kind of
1:03:37
fancy fun like jump over and then you can get um the back take yeah and the guy again when you're
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new to jujitsu you don't necessarily like move in ways that are proper uh to keep yourself safe
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yeah and so he he had turtle he went and jumped over his back to bring to roll the guy and bring
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him on top of him and his neck got stuck and his neck snapped and he instantly was paralyzed that's
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No, it's terrifying. And so this has been, you know, in the courts and going on for years. And it finally came back. This is 2018. Sorry. Finally came back that they awarded a win to the person that was injured
1:04:23
And it's a bit scary because it leaves the door open for a lot of liability to gyms
1:04:29
Like I don't think a waiver at this point will save people, which is supposed to be a safeguard against people coming in
1:04:35
and potentially getting injured. It will protect the gym. Luckily, this is insurance
1:04:40
I don't know how much will actually get paid out, but it's kind of crazy that it's been taking this long
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It's a terrible tragedy that this person went into the jujitsu mats
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and is never walking again. his life is forever changed he's walking he's hiking what climbing mountains what i didn't hear
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that yeah he's uh he he had a really great recovery and he's been um he's been able to bike
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hike uh walk around but i i think it it took a lot of life out of his body so like even though
1:05:15
he's still able to move around and do that type of stuff he he has to like go out with a friend
1:05:20
He has to plan rest. He has to make sure that, you know, everything's okay while he's doing it
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He can't just like, you know, go on a hike like we can, you know
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But it is awesome that he was able to recover for that because that looked horrible
1:05:38
That's gnarly. Like that looked really horrible. Yeah, because I looked it up because I saw something about, they wrote
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oh, quadriplegic climbs mountain. I'm like, excuse me? how does that how does that make sense but no he was able to make a great recovery and he's still
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able he just doesn't have full i think he doesn't have full function of his of his limbs but he's
1:06:03
still able to move them and and walk and i think he uses a cane when he goes on hikes and stuff
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like that yeah um so yeah he he lucky for him he's still able to uh enjoy life a bit as opposed
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of being, you know. Well, this article said permanently paralyzed. No, and he is paralyzed, but he can walk
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which I didn't understand was a thing. But I've had his Instagram
1:06:33
I'll find it for you. But, yeah, he's walking around, but he just isn't the same as he used to be
1:06:40
And the wild thing, so one thing that, because I know a lot of white belts are watching our channel
1:06:45
One thing you could do to protect this, because I feel like I heard from people that he was really strong
1:06:52
So the instructor was trying to show him, okay, you're strong, but I can still out-wrestle you and stuff
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When you're a white belt, just chill. Just move your body. Try not to strength through stuff too much
1:07:09
And as you're learning, you can pick up the intensity. but like there's no telling what kind of ego your instructor has and they know how to move like you're
1:07:19
never gonna beat the instructor you know what I mean like if you do they either letting you in or maybe they trying not to hurt you you know what I mean like a lot of times we have to avoid white belts because they the most dangerous ones in the gym because you try to save them from hurting themselves
1:07:37
and they end up blowing your knee out, you know? It's like a baby snake. Yeah
1:07:41
A baby snake. Too much venom. It's like a baby. Yes, yes. It's like a baby elephant, you know
1:07:48
Like just stomping around. I'm like, I can, you know, spear you at any point
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But like, I don't want you to crush my ankles while you're doing it
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So there's this weird balance, I think, when you have someone because he was very active and everything
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which is also heartbreaking that he had this happen to him. But, you know, when you're ignorant, you don't know
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and you're like having a good time tussling with someone, and they might get upset because you're like getting the better
1:08:16
of certain positions that you're not supposed to because you're a white belt. So then they pull out the fancy move, and now you're ed
1:08:23
So just as a safeguard, and I know it's like telling women to protect themselves from getting raped
1:08:30
It's like, well, tell the men not to rape them. Like the instructors, obviously, like be careful with your white belts
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But white belts, if you're going into a gym and trying something new for the first time, don't go all crazy
1:08:44
I know, yeah. I know a couple of schools. One, the one that sticks out to the forefront is Legion American Jiu-Jitsu
1:08:51
And they do a great job of having white belt specific only programs
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And it's like over the course of several weeks. And it just teaches you like white belt etiquette, jujitsu etiquette, hygiene, and make sure that you know
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That's a big one. Make sure that you know how to move your body and defend yourself in a safe way so that everybody has a positive experience
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So I really love what they're doing. And I know certain other gyms are kind of following suit with that
1:09:21
I love that idea of just getting everybody safe in jiu-jitsu because it can be a life-changing experience for, you know, for the better
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And it's a great sport and, you know, anybody can do it
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So it's important to, you know, learn and set your ego aside and just, you know, pay attention out there
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Yeah, yeah. And everyone's learning shit on YouTube too. So another white belt or a blue belt could have done that to them too, you know
1:09:51
It's just the Wild West out there, but schools do what they can to keep you safe
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And this is like one of those like once in a million times kind of incident, you know
1:10:02
where just like two really bad things happened at the same time and it led to catastrophe
1:10:09
But yeah, that's horrible. Do you have more depressing stuff? Yeah, I do
1:10:17
Oh, God. this one's been buzzing around for a while BJ Penn is arrested again
1:10:24
I think I mean this is an old link I don't know if I can like go on with
1:10:29
my Sunday after there's another one JDM on fight or pay wait no no talk about BJ Penn
1:10:39
you can talk about BJ Penn just the headline reads BJ Penn has been
1:10:47
taken into custody for violating a restraining order. He's been arrested a handful of times
1:10:53
for just kind of being crazy. Yeah, he's he's it sounds like he's just having kind of a psychotic
1:11:04
break. I don't know if it's what his mental health issues are, if it's drug induced. I don't know
1:11:10
There's been, you know, a couple of MMA sites that are picking it up and just talking about how he
1:11:16
doesn't believe his family is his family. That sounds like schizophrenic. It sounds like schizophrenia
1:11:26
It's one of those things where, and it could be drug-induced since it's such a later in life
1:11:33
usually this type of thing happens mid-20s. So it could be drug-induced
1:11:39
He could have been fighting it for it. It could be something that's been part of him forever
1:11:44
and it's just now become such an issue that they couldn't keep it away from the public eye, you know
1:11:50
But it's at the point where his family has given up on, you know
1:11:56
taking him in, and sometimes that's what has to happen. Like, mental health care in our country isn't great
1:12:04
So, like, a lot of times when you need help, you can't be told to get help
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Like, you have to want help, you know what I mean? so they can't just put him in a psychiatric ward
1:12:17
unless he does something that puts himself in danger or somebody else in danger
1:12:22
Getting arrested because you break a restraining order isn't the same thing as getting arrested
1:12:28
because you ran someone over with your car. You know what I mean
1:12:34
So it would have to be something bad for him to get made
1:12:38
to get the help that he needs if it is, in fact, like something like a schizophrenic breakdown or mental breakdown
1:12:44
or something like that where he needs medication. But, yeah, it's sad because a lot of times when someone is claiming
1:12:54
oh, you're not my family, it's because they're trying to make them get help
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Like a lot of times it's because they're like, you're acting different. He's like, well, you're acting different
1:13:03
And this is what happens in someone's brain who's having that type of thing go on
1:13:10
And it would really suck either way. Like I almost feel like it would be more hopeful if it was drug-induced
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or if it was just him being an addict because at least you can get rid of that
1:13:22
Like you can get rid of the drugs in your system and almost go back to normal
1:13:26
But if it is a mental breakdown and it's permanent, then that's really sad
1:13:31
It is. Do you want to make predictions for next week? Do you want to talk about more uplifting
1:13:38
upside uplifting we have a big main event with jamal hill and khalil round tree this one makes
1:13:48
me sad i like both of them and uh they're both they're both great guys yeah and khalil did this
1:13:55
like little uh animal uh what was it uh what's the place called where you have like a dog pound
1:14:02
thing like a rescue it was um the nevada aspca or whatever but that one right they did like an ad
1:14:12
for that in in vegas with the ufc and he grabbed this dog that looked just like butcher oh and i
1:14:21
was just like oh my god now you're rooting for him he's your pick yeah if he got butcher's cousin
1:14:27
If he adopted Butcher's cousin, then that's my pick. But I got to go with Jamal
1:14:33
I feel like he's gotten so much slack for the few times that he's lost
1:14:38
And I think he really shows, even in his losses, he shows that same power, that same ability to just be durable
1:14:48
Yeah I feel like Jamal should be able to just put the pressure on him I was hoping that Jamal would go for some takedowns because it felt like he wanted to in this last fight There were moments where he was good on the ground and he just never initiates it
1:15:06
He's a black belt. You'd think that eventually he'd work that into his game
1:15:10
to open up his strikes, but he's always enjoyed stinging on his feet and banging
1:15:14
And I'm sure Khalil's going to want to do the same thing. Both of them, I think that both of them have amazing skills
1:15:22
in striking. I think that's where they both thrive. But I do agree with you in saying that Jamal Hill
1:15:29
has a few more tools to his tool belt. I think he has the ability to take the fight to the ground
1:15:34
He has the submission skills. And we just haven't seen that from Khalil
1:15:39
He wants to keep it standing. He wants to throw those devastating kicks
1:15:45
What am I doing? Oh, thank you. I was trying to project
1:15:50
I keep losing you. trying to project um I I think that Jamal has more tools I would love to see him add that uh
1:16:04
that takedown attempt into his game especially in this fight because Khalil is you know as
1:16:10
dangerous on the feet as Jamal is um I think that it comes it comes into play where you have this um
1:16:17
this confidence in your striking you know you can knock somebody out so you're always looking for
1:16:22
that and i think sometimes fighters forget that they have more tools in their tool belt yeah it's
1:16:28
it you fall in love with that like knockout is such a fun thing i mean if i knew what it felt
1:16:34
like i feel like i would you know i would always look for it well i i kind of know what both feel
1:16:40
like and i gotta say knockouts a little better than submission submission's cool and all like
1:16:46
it definitely feels uh like i don't know it feels kind of mean like kind of evil to submit someone
1:16:55
like you're making them give up like you make them submit to you i don't know making me all
1:17:01
tingly right now yeah oh god it's weird i love it but i but getting knocked out isn't really a
1:17:08
choice so i think i think the knockout feels better because you're just like shut up you know
1:17:13
instead of like, are you done? Are you done? Are you done? Are you done
1:17:17
Are you done? Okay, you're done. So it's different. It's cool both ways
1:17:22
But yeah, I can see how someone would fall in love with that knockout
1:17:27
Also, I feel like knockouts are not easier to do, but less tiring
1:17:33
Like you see a lot of people just swing bombs at the end of fights
1:17:36
like the Usman Buckley fight, like swinging bombs. It's a lot easier to swing bombs at the end of a fight
1:17:42
than to get a takedown and secure a position at the end of the fight
1:17:47
Depending. Depending on who you are as a fighter, yeah, I can see that
1:17:51
Yeah, I think a lot of people, I mean, Usman was swinging bombs, you know
1:17:56
Like, it's easier to just sit back and be like, all right, let's just sit down on our punches
1:18:02
and try to make it look big for the end of the round
1:18:06
and every now and then you get a knockout. It's a lot harder to get that sub in the last round
1:18:10
unless the other guy is just totally gassed. Yeah. Yeah, it's just like that squeeze
1:18:15
I almost hate getting submission mid-round when I'm sparring because then you got to get up and keep fighting
1:18:24
I'm like, but I won. Well, in a fight, you get to go home
1:18:29
Yeah, in a fight, you get to go home. But just the tiredness, I feel differently
1:18:35
Maybe it's just because I'm a striker to begin with. But yeah, I don't know
1:18:41
I feel like Jamal is definitely not given his grappling the credit
1:18:47
or not the credit, but just the shine that it deserves. You see him getting in these good positions against guys
1:18:53
but then not going back to it later in the fight. And I think that would be a good kind of wrinkle for him to bring out in this one
1:19:01
especially knowing that Khalil has no interest in being down there. Like put the person where they don't want to be
1:19:08
You know, like if anything, it's a mind . And even if you don't get to that submission position
1:19:13
you can at least make them worried about something before you start throwing your bombs
1:19:18
your left highs, all those things that you've had success with in the past
1:19:23
In the co-main event, we have Fiziev. Fiziev. Fiziev. Fiziev. Fizzy. Fizzes
1:19:31
Against Bohamondas. Ooh. So this is a really exciting one. And I know that they've been hot on Bahamundas
1:19:42
And Fiziv, you know, he just did the UFC a solid, stepping up on, you know, a little short notice against
1:19:49
oh, my God, I can picture his face. It was, help me
1:19:53
Gaethje, right? Thank you, Gaethje. It's an interesting fight. And this is one of those things where Fiziv has those takedown abilities
1:20:03
and I think that he should probably kind of push that. Although Bahamundus has shown that he does have skills on the ground
1:20:10
he primarily likes to keep it standing, and he does have a lot of length and reach standing
1:20:16
Yeah, his submission of Jalen Turner was really impressive. That was unexpected for me
1:20:23
I was like, what are you doing? Get out of there! It was really, I was surprised
1:20:30
And I know Fiziev is going to be looking out for that type of thing
1:20:34
I do feel like Fiziev has the experience advantage at a higher level
1:20:40
but Baja Mandes has been in there for a long time. Like his record is now 17-5, so that's a ton of fights
1:20:49
And even though they weren't all – wait, where was he? He had a contender series fight in 2020, so he's been in the UFC since then
1:21:00
he's had a slow burn but now he's becoming quite a name
1:21:07
and people expect him to get his crazy knockouts and his crazy submissions
1:21:14
I don't know, I think Fiziev lost a bit of his shine
1:21:19
he used to be a lean back , right? I feel like you're going to see him hit the matrix in this
1:21:27
because of Ignacio's really crazy kicks that he likes to throw but he just like people were really hype on him too and because
1:21:34
he stepped away for a while uh they weren't sure what was going on with him and he just lost his
1:21:39
shine i think a big win over baja mandez uh would put him right back in that position and i feel like
1:21:46
he can like the geichi fight was short notice he was training for um he was training for his
1:21:53
comeback but he didn't know it was gonna happen that soon so i think uh yeah i think this is a
1:21:59
good chance for him to get back in a wing column i think he could do it but i always count out
1:22:04
bahamondas out like i i feel like he just looks 10 times better every time he fights
1:22:09
so he's definitely like he's growing into himself as an athlete and it's yeah and it's pretty cool
1:22:14
to watch yeah yeah it is uh who else we got on that card we have hold on let me scroll back
1:22:21
really bad. That's interesting. It worth a mention Oh my goodness Worth it I was just going to go down one Yeah Oh yeah it is And talk about Curtis Blades Yeah Curtis Blades and Rizvin Kunyev
1:22:36
Ooh, he looks bulbous. Look at that belly. Don't tell him he said that
1:22:43
Look at this. Oh, my goodness. Don't tell him he said that. Yeah. This guy is interesting
1:22:49
I don't know anything about him. But it looks like he's been set up to fight Curtis Blades a few times
1:22:56
and finally it's going to happen. It looks like the fight just kept getting pushed back for some reason
1:23:05
Oh, Blades got sick on March 8th when they were supposed to fight
1:23:11
and then before it just got rescheduled. So he's coming in straight off the contender series
1:23:18
This should be an easy one for Curtis Blades in comparison to the people that he's had to fight recently
1:23:26
Anytime you get someone coming into the big leagues for the first time
1:23:31
you got to be excited about that opportunity because there's a different level in the UFC
1:23:37
I mean, I hate to say it, but we saw it with the Apache Mix fight
1:23:41
It's not just the skill level, but it's also the opportunity. like there's so much more reach with the UFC that it's the name brand it's like you know Xerox or
1:23:53
or Benadryl or whatever you know big name brand like you're not gonna be like oh hey I'm uh I'm
1:23:59
going into the histamine blocker you know the Benadryl of MMA like so there's there's like that
1:24:11
mind there but then also like everyone who's in the UFC is getting paid enough to just be in
1:24:19
the UFC like they're getting paid enough to just fight for the most part so um every fight is tough
1:24:25
and every fight that Curtis Blades has had win or lose has set him up for a phenomenal performance
1:24:33
versus someone who hasn't had that experience yet yes well he has I mean he has some impressive
1:24:39
finishes but again like as to what you were saying it is not the level of competition that
1:24:45
Curtis Blades has experienced so this is a huge opportunity for Kunyev to to step up to rise to
1:24:52
the occasion to impress the UFC um you know and earn his spot so it's um I don't know if this was
1:25:00
kind of a short notice get together or if it had been planned out for a long time yeah it's it's
1:25:07
Just kept moving. Okay. So they've known about each other for like the whole year
1:25:13
Like this whole year, Curtis Blaze has been prepared. They've been daydreaming
1:25:17
Yeah, yeah. Eating, sleeping, breathing, thinking about each other. It's a long time
1:25:22
It benefits the more veteran person or the newcomer, having someone's name for like six months before you fight them
1:25:32
Again, I think it's like kind of an individual opportunity. I think it kind of, if there's more footage on Curtis Blades at the highest level to show where his, where his holes are, where you can, you know, get the advantage
1:25:48
And then you look at like the newer up and coming fighter who, I mean, he, he has lots of fights to his credit
1:25:54
He has lots of, you know, wins and finishes, but it's still, he's still developing himself
1:26:00
And so I think sometimes it tends to play to the advantage of the younger fighter
1:26:06
Yeah. Just because Curtis Blades is who he is at this point as a fighter
1:26:10
I'm not saying he's not learning, growing, and evolving. But there's just a little bit less mystery to him
1:26:16
Yeah. I was just going to pull up some highlights real quick
1:26:20
but this is a full fight. I didn't want to sit through the whole thing
1:26:26
But he has fought in PFL, and I feel like with PFL, you do have a similar thing where a lot of those fighters
1:26:31
are able to just fight off of their salary. You don't have as many fighters that are able to do that
1:26:39
but, you know, definitely this Ferreira guy, he's the one who fought Thingy, right
1:26:46
Who fought Francis Ngannou? Is he? I'm pretty sure. Yeah, and Ngannou, like, knocked him out in two seconds
1:26:55
But he looks like he has a strong wrestling base, like, you know, no shit, Russian
1:27:02
but that's one thing that Curtis Blades has always leaned on. So maybe the odds will be pretty close just because of that
1:27:09
Maybe they're expecting him to be able to outwrestle Curtis Blades. We'll see
1:27:14
We'll see. It's a good one, though. I'm excited to see Blades back out there
1:27:18
Big fan of him. I don't care what y'all say. Who's saying what
1:27:24
People just, they find out who everyone else doesn't like, and then they jump on it
1:27:30
Like, you see that happen so much with, like, just a dog pal. Like, okay, we all like this person this week
1:27:37
We all hate this person. You know, and then it becomes a thing. And I feel like he's one of those, like, everyone hates Curtis Blades
1:27:46
Leave him alone. Yeah, he's great. He's such a nice guy. Very respectful
1:27:52
Well. Has the slightest lisp. I thought it was a stutter. Yeah, no, no, it is a stutter
1:27:59
I was thinking of Ovintz. Oh. Yeah. He's a sweetheart, too. Oh, yeah
1:28:05
Any other fights? No. What about on the prelims? Any girls? Oh, yeah
1:28:11
Forgot where we are. Oh, no. There's a girl. Hey. There's two
1:28:15
Hey. I don't know any of these ladies. Ooh. Let's practice pronouncing their name
1:28:25
Zalesnikova? Zalesnikova? Zalesnikova. Ooh, okay. Good job. Thank you. Versus? Dixon. i got it i know that one
1:28:37
where are these women um okay for some reason my internet is very slow today i think i know melissa dixon i think i've
1:28:56
no mess dixon i feel like i've watched her fight before well Les Nikova is coming off of a loss to Eileen Perez and before that she had a win over
1:29:12
oh oh uh Montserrat Rendon oh she's uh she's strawweight though right
1:29:20
no she's a bantam okay I'm so we all know who these girls are
1:29:27
I'm going to stop pretending like I did. Anyways, yeah, we have two female bouts
1:29:35
Very exciting. Yeah, that'll be fun. I'm excited to see that go down in, what's it called
1:29:42
Boca? Baca? I don't know. I just, somewhere overseas. UFC fight night
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It's at the Etihad Arena in Abu Dhabi. And Baku. Baku. Baku as a Baku
1:29:59
Oh, wow. Yeah. Sounds like a first name and a last name
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I'm going to pull up Baku, Azerbaijan and see if you can find it on the map
1:30:17
Okay, cool. Well, we got those fights happening next week. And yeah, we went 130 because you guys were so excited last time when we went to 140
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Dang, they're in the nice little sea area. Okay, that's cool
1:30:39
I want to go to some random ass place like that, just feel like Indiana Jones going to some random country
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and trying to win some gold medallion or something. Yeah, this is in the Caspian Sea, right by the Caspian Sea
1:30:57
So exotic. Yeah, that'll be fun. I bet there's some cool touristy type things that you could do if you were in fight week there
1:31:04
Oh, they're pretty close to Georgia. Maybe we'll get a Marab appearance. Oh, for sure
1:31:08
He's over there with Nina. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah, that's probably where they're going to touch down at the end of the tour
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Victory lap with Nina. What does that consist of Lots of partying Lots of TikTok dances Oh yes oh yes lots of uh uh throwing her around in her push bra with the with the squishy noise what is it it always like
1:31:33
or something like the like the pills very double noise we need to start putting some sound effects
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Right now our backs hurt. My knees are killing me. Our knees are killing me
1:32:10
We need to show our legs. I'm too old for this. I have to lean back. That's why you can't hear me as the podcast goes on
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because I have to lean back. My neck is crinked. We're on a floor chair, which is made for children
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Who can sit crisscross applesauce, no problem. Yeah, all day long. That's what they're made for
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My legs are asleep. Dude, my hip is like, if you don't move, I'm dislocating right now
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