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UFC 318 Reactions w/ UFC vets Jessica Penne and Angela Hill
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Jul 20, 2025
What a night! We had so much fun watching this final farewell to Dustin Poirier, he had a final showdown made for movies but even before that UFC 318 was full of big finishes and crazy back and forth matches. Chill with us as we discuss the aura of Auntie Weezy, the New Orleans crowd, crazy ko's and subs, and Max Holloway being the best fighter to send a beloved legend into Valhalla halls of retirement. Join us: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1FaPU4wQCG9RdbNlMBI-fA/join 00:00:40 Judice v Caliari 00:09:26 Gautier v Valentin 00:10:39 Phillips v Oliveira 00:16:27 Johnson v Zellhuber 00:19:19 Ige v Pitbull 00:22:28 Holland v Rodriguez 00:27:38 Costa Kopylov 00:32:57 Holloway v Poirier 00:48:43 Allen v Vettori 00:57:00 UFC on ABC Preview
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I can cut this whenever you like. So we can sit here for 10 minutes silence if
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you like. No, we shall.
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What's up everyone? Oh, I thought you meant we shall sit here in 10 minutes. No, let's go.
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Doing our intro. Yeah. Who else is pumped after uh UFC New
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Orleans? Nalins. Nalins. Yes, it was. I've never been. It made me want to be
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there, though. Yo. Yeah, me neither. Oh, we got to do like We got to do a trip.
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Yeah. To go visit Crispy. Oh my goodness. Have her show us around
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town. She just opened that card in the
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most amazing way. She did. It was cool having that backstory. You know, we had a Wellmaker.
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He was from Atlanta. He made his debut, got a big win, and he was able to fight in Atlanta. Now, we had the same thing
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with Krispy. She went and it wasn't her debut, but she got a big win, and she
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was able to get on this card and get a big finish against uh what was the girl's name?
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Uh, Caliari. Yeah, Nicole Caliari. She She sliced her
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up. Sliced and diced her with those elbows and knees. Um, really good striking. She moved her head more. She
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was mad about or her coaches were mad about her getting hit in her last fight as you can see in our interview that we
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did with her. Make sure to check that out. But Krispy uh she definitely
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uh sharpened things up and she looked really good. Yeah, it was a great open bulldog of an
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opponent. This girl wanted to get in constantly. But because of of Carly's superior
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striking and that range and what I noticed mostly in this fight was that
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she is great striking forward and backwards. She really utilizes um great offense moving forward and backwards. It
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was and she hasn't been training that long. No, it's like it's just like well maker
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like like five years and just like winning like no background. I just did it. I I did softball
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and I'm just really good at it. I'm like you know what? I did softball, too. And then I started training with no
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experience. And Wow. Yeah. Well, you you did really good.
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What are you talking about? She's she's in her uh she's in her budding uh era
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right now. We'll see how high her ceiling is, but right now, it looks like it could be pretty high. Like,
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it's pretty high. Her takedown defense was really impressive. Command of the
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octagon was impressive. Hello. Hello, Butcher. He's here, guys. He's here.
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Get What are you doing? Oh my god. This guy.
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Like, what? Did Grace like, you know, it's Grace's seventh birthday
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today? No way. Yes. It's my baby birthday. Yes. Oh my god.
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We're going to have fun after this. Oh, yay. She must have dropped some uh little doggy birthday cake on your phone
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cuz all up on it. What is this? Do I smell a mature female
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dog? I need to investigate. He does. He does. Um but back to Carly.
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Uh she Yeah, you were saying uh her takedown defense looked really good. uh the way that she was able to just like
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whizer and get out of those um get out of those scrambles. It looked like she
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could have jumped the gillie a little bit in that fight, but she recognized where her strengths were. She got back
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to her feet and she would dominate on the feet. She ended up getting a really nasty knee uh TKO. And the cool thing
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about that, it's really hard to time. like to throw a outside knee in MMA is a
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lot harder than it is in uh in Muay Thai, I feel like, because the gloves
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are really small. So, you're actually putting yourself in a lot of danger of not just getting hit, but also getting
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taken down when you bring that knee up. We saw in a in a Kevin Holland fight, he was able to get a big takedown off a
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D-Rod because he threw a knee and it just wasn't the correct timing. Like Holland ate it, but still got a really
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good takedown. Like Krispy was looking really good with her timing, with her precision, and like she did some
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highlevel things that you wouldn't expect to see in a person who's been training as long as she has.
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Yeah, she's got some good coaching, some good skill, and I think that just everything she does that I've seen in
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each fight is she just really sets everything up nicely. So, she makes people hesitant to come in, she makes
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people hesitant, she really capitalizes on because she's constantly throwing faints, uh, kicks, mixing it all in.
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They all come from the same angle, so you never know exactly what it's going to be. Yeah. Yeah. And this might be kind of an unpopular
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opinion, but I think people kind of stop liver shots too soon.
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The body shot. I think that they do. I wouldn't be mad at that opinion. I'm not I'm not saying it's always
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right. I think it's like a, you know, case by case kind of thing. And I'm not saying that she was going to do well if
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she got back up. I'm just saying sometimes I think refs really jump in
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like they got knocked out from a head shot and I think that there can be a little bit more of of a waiting period
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to see how that they respond because she was actually complaining a little bit afterwards which
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you know that's neither here nor there but um she she wasn't completely
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out from that shot. Yeah. And it's one of those things where the accumulation of damage I think is
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part of the reason why the Jeff the Jeff there should be a ref named Jeff.
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Isn't there yet? We need one. There probably is. But uh I think that's the main reason why the ref stepped in
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when he did. If that was the first shot that landed that hurt her, maybe he would have given her a little time to
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recover. But she was getting pieced up. But I totally agree. Um, when you know
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what a liver shot feels like, there's like a moment of agony and like I got to
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protect myself and nothing that my mind is telling my body to do will allow me
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to put my hands up. Like you go in a fetal position unwillingly. You can't stop yourself from doing that. But after
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a few seconds, you can recover and stand back up and continue to fight. So, uh,
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there was one fight, um, that I remember we were really upset about, uh, Aldo versus Jeremy Stevens. You know, we're
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all team Jeremy. And he got hit with a really nasty body shot, but it was like the first thing that really hurt him in
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the fight. And he dropped down. He started like protecting himself and then coming back up and then they stopped it
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and we're like, that's my point of reference for that complaint because I always remember
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that. Yeah. And yes, he he was hurt, but I mean, people that are getting, you know,
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standing TKO'd get more opportunities to to cover to to shield themselves. And I
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would like to see the same courtesy for people with liver shots because it is it is momentarily debilitating, but you can
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recover from it. And it's a lot harder to recover from a fight like uh like D-Rods where where you're getting
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concussed every moment of the fight, but then waking back up because you're too
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stubborn and tough to get knocked out and then getting concussed again. Like the the the permanent damage from that
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is a lot worse than whatever damage you're going to get from a lever shot. Another valid complaint. Yeah. So, uh so yeah, I agree. I agree.
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And uh I think most people will be okay with that. I think just there's also the thing where uh you can say that a lot of
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refs don't like seeing girls get hurt. That's a girl. I know. Even though our example was with Jeremy,
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but uh yeah, it it happens. It definitely happens. That was my one
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worry when I was about to fight Lemos. a lot like most of her knockouts or I felt
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like all of her knockouts up to the point where I fought her um were early stoppages
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because they're like that poor girl. Oh my god, save her. Yeah.
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[ __ ] I'd probably do the same thing if I was a rapper. Oh god, stop the fight.
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But you know it that's another thing that happens. There are early stoppages when when his girls fights as well. This
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was a combination of both livershot and his girl. He jumped in there pretty quickly, but I I kind of like the
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stoppage just because she was getting pieced up the entire time. Absolutely. I don't think it would have
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fared her any better to get, you know, stood up to allow more time, but it just makes me want to say something.
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Say it. I said it. See, you said it with your chest and I'm proud of you. I said it. Well, since we're on the
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prelims, let's just skip through it. Did you watch a lot of the pre prelims? I I tune in for Carly's just because she's
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our bestie now. But I missed a lot of these finishes and I probably should
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have like caught up on them, but I was tired. Um, a quick one to mention would be uh
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Goautier and uh versus I saw that one. The silent assassin.
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I saw that one. calculated, measured, all power just completely dismantled
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Valentine in impressive fashion in the first round. I mean, I don't think Valentine landed a strike.
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He landed one. He landed that kick. He landed that inside kick that uh Oh,
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wait. No, that was a different fight. Never mind. Uh I think Valentin did a little bit, but uh yeah, Goautier, he
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was just on top of his game. He was moving in and out and his like his
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distance management was just really impressive. Like when he stung him, when
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he stung Valentin, he didn't rush in. He didn't like drive into the clinch and get into like a a place where he
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couldn't land more power. He just stayed right on the end of his punches and was just just tooling them up.
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Just calculated. Yeah, it was nice. It was really nice to see. Um, yeah, it's it's like they got
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their new Francis and Gano. Yeah, just in a pint size, just in like
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a a minier package. Uh, Phillips vers Phillips versus Aloe Vera was a pretty
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crazy fight just because I don't think I had noticed Oh, Olivea
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like never puts his hands up and throws from his back pocket the whole time. I
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don't think it had really um been been noticed by me until this fight. Phillips
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was So, he does that in his other fights, too. I If he if he has, I have not noticed it
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as much. I'm like, I have to go back because this was Is this new? I was I was just questioning if I had ever seen
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him fight before, and I know I have. Yeah. But fighting like that was just it was pretty wild. I think he got frustrated
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and he dropped his hand because uh Phillips was doing well in the first half. Yes. In the first half of the
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first round, he was doing really well. He like just was like, I'm just going to Superman
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punch my way to victory. Like he just jumped in with crosses with weird timing
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and was able to rock Olive like maybe like three or four times in that first
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round, but he stayed standing and he kept walking forward. And like if anything, he didn't
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uh he didn't like let Phillips off the hook. Like he kept pressuring him. He
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kept walking forward. And I always talk about um how you can pressure people without throwing anything. He did that
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like to the max. He dropped his hand, he walked forward, and he just freaked Kai
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Phillips out. It's a weird It's a weird kind of phenomenon to watch this happen because it breaks all the rules and you
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and seeing it happen. You're kind of like if I was in Philip's position, I'd be like, "How is this happening?"
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Yeah. But it's it's exhausting. That kind of pressure is exhausting. When we saw Philillip's gas tank just be like slowly
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taken away from the pressure, from fighting backwards, from the damage that Olive was throwing and inflicting.
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Yeah. It was um it was almost as if you knew he was going to throw from his
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hips, but because his hands were down, you didn't know when it was going to happen. So, uh Venicius, he took a risk.
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He had already gotten wobbled like three or four times in that first round. So, he's like I feel like in his brain, he
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just thought, "What's the worst that can happen? I'm going to get knocked out. I'm doing it. That's happening with my hands up." So, he just drops his hands.
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He walks forwards. He walks forward and he lands those like charge combinations that he does with just like hook, hook,
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hook. He'll come in with like different angles and he'll throw three and four at a time and eventually one of them is
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able to wrangle Kyler Phillips in and hit him. And as much movement as he was
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doing, he couldn't keep it up. It was it was strange to me that it was working for him when he would
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dip and pull all the way back to avoid a long punch by Phillips and then come
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back and still hit with that right hand. It just didn't seem technically sound
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fundamentally right, but it it worked for him. He's got extendos. Like if you're able
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to if you got long arms and you're able to put like that 4 inch of shoulder into
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it as well, like you can really reach someone when they feel like they're out of range, especially if you're throwing
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more than one. And then he also did um this like little lead like he would lead with the
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leg kick first. And for someone who's moving a lot if you're able to like kind
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of catch them with your foot, you can pull yourself into this long punch combo. So, a lot of times you see people
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go punch punch punch kick. When you lead with the kick, you're able to like kind of yank yourself into them with the
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punches. And he was able to do that really well. Um I forget the name of the uh there was a guy um a Muay Thai guy
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that used to do that a lot. I forget his name, but uh it it's cool to see especially when someone like the you all
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it's easy to call someone a brawler and say that they don't have technique but when you look at that there's a method
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to the madness and it's why these two are probably fighting because I doubt
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anyone ranked above them want to fight these two guys and especially Venius
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right now like he's a monster he's a Brazilian Terminator like he just comes forward he takes everything that you can
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give him and he gives you back twofold. It's really a that's a really interesting prospect to keep your eyes
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on. I think that it will it will be very very telling as he fights up the
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rankings though because I want to think that people will be able to capitalize
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on those big openings. you know, they'll be able to the the bigger, stronger
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builds in the division, the the sharper strikers will be able to, you know, find find that straight down the middle kind
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of uh range and be able to get him. Yeah. But one thing uh he has over the
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rest of the division right now is that aura. It's like that uh Alex Perea type thing
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like you have this aura where and it looked it almost looked like Phillips was a little freaked out by the prep
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too. Like when you're getting ready for someone and your coaches are like, "You can't get hit with this, you can't get
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hit with that, you can't stay in the pocket, you can't box it." Like hearing all those can'tss will [ __ ] you up as an
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athlete. And it will absolutely And like the aura is what does that like with Alex Perea, people are like, "You
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can't get hit with his left hook. You can't do this. You can't do that." And it's just like everyone just freezes up in front of them. And I feel like it's
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going to take a while for someone to just like overlook that part of his game
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and and just be like, "Ah, whatever. Let's just fight."
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Well, speaking of the higher ranked people, we can move up to former
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champion Michael Johnson fighting Daniel Zelberger. Oh, yeah. Or Zel Huber. Sorry.
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Burger. I'm hungry. Uh, Michael Johnson, really impressive.
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And I think people are counting him out. As soon as you, you know, see somebody who's close to their 40s or, you know,
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see somebody that um, hasn't been in the spotlight the way, take him to the pasture and shoot him,
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he's already dead. Well, he put that young buck back in his stall.
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Hey, I love it. uh Zel Herbert like you know
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he he has some momentum behind him. He's he's pretty popular. The UFC definitely likes him. He has you know nice clean
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striking grappling abilities. But what I saw in this fight was somebody that just
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wasn't making the adjustments necessary. He just kept throwing that that one
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right kick which is the right thing to do against a power striker against somebody who's southpaw. It was the
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right thing to do. But what I didn't see was him mixing it up and solving the problem. That was Michael Johnson.
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Yeah, it's uh it's it's one thing when you're doing the right things that you guys planned on, but when it's not
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working, like when he's still able to drop you with the hand that you're trying to tire out, and that's what it
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seemed like he was doing. He was aiming for that back hand. He was trying to shut down the cross with those high
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kicks. And he was landing them. There were heavy heavy uh kicks that he was landing, but Johnson still had power.
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He said, "Give me some more." Yeah. He was disciplined. He's like, "You know what? I've I've been in this type of fight a million times before.
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You're not going to trick me with this. You got to go to something else." And he just doubled down on the kicks. Like he
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thought eventually it was going to work. And I think Michael Johnson did a great job. Um he was surprised that he won a
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decision. He I think he knew that he won, but like you never know if you win
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win. And he was it seemed like he was really happy about that. So I felt good good for him to be able to do that.
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biggest underdog on the card, too, which is a lot of times the guy who gets screwed because, you know, foil hat
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time, the the judges, they look at the biggest underdog and then they're like, "Okay, we're going to just judge it
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according to this because so and so and so and so has money on Zel Huber and then we'll make it happen even if things
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get a little crazy." You know what I mean? And then that's what happens a lot of times. So, I feel like Michael
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Johnson, he was able to break the uh break that funk and able to win that
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decision and he did it in great fashion. I think he looked great. And uh yeah, like you're saying, Z Hooper, he just
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needs to figure out how to move on to the next thing, how to add some more uh tricks to whatever approach he's taking
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against a guy like that. Yeah. Uh moving up, Dan Eay and Patricio
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Pitbull. Yeah, Patriceio got one. He showed up.
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Yeah, he showed up. He mixed it up. Um the the broadcast team was critiquing him a lot
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with how there was just um so much time in between his attempts to strike, which
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I I can understand that. But but what he does is he just he ends up getting the
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rhythm of Dan Eay. He times it. He hit him with a really nasty uppercut to to
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stumble him. He had great entries under Dan Eay's strikes to get, you know, the
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takedown attempt and he just mixed it up so nicely. Yeah, his takedowns were really nice. He
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had like foot sweeps, he had takedowns, nice chain wrestling. It felt like he was flowing a lot more in this fight.
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And I think Eay is a good person to flow against because he gets in your face, you know, like it's it's not some it's
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not a fight where he has to chase the action. The action is right there in front of him. And I feel like that's
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more of a fight where you can see both of their uh strengths on display. But
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Pit Bull, I feel like the right person got the decision. It was a close fight again. And I kind of felt horrible for
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Eay. Like he ended in a pretty good position even though it was like weird. was like a weird leg lock position or
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whatever. Yeah, he got into that 50/50 position. And that's not something it it it's not
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something that you want to hang out in on bottom. It's not really a great offensive or defensive position in MMA,
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but it is a position that happens a lot in jiu-jitsu. Yeah. So, I can understand how, you know, we
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get ourselves into these, but it's just um it's not something that you want to stay in for a long time. Yeah. Exactly. Um, and but Pit Bull, I
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feel like he's the person I would expect to be more comfortable there. Yeah.
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Yes. Yes. Yes. Being his origin, I mean, his country of origin. Um, but
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yeah, it was it was a good it was a good uh fight. Um, being able to like wobble
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him in the what was it in the third round? Um, yeah, it was it was just a
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good fight for Pit Bull in the second round. Second round. Yeah. Yeah. I think it was a typo.
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Okay. It's okay. I got my notes. But it was great and I think it sets him
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up nicely. Um, you know, he he gets that Year loss, you know, kind of shakes it
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loose. So, I think that people are going to take notice and be able to just kind
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of say like, okay, he belongs here. He's not one of these like transplants that, you know, we're kind of questioning.
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Yeah. And he ate those [ __ ] kicks like uh like candy, man. Like uh Eay did
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a good job timing the kicks in the third round, and he was just able to kind of shake them off, pressure in, and uh get
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to good positions off of it. Uh but yeah, they look they look bad. They look bad in the moment, but he was like,
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"It's fine. It's fine. Just scratch. Just a little nose scratch.
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Yeah, but man, what about Kevin Holland and Daniel Rodriguez with their uh fight of
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the night winning performance? This fight was so crazy. It was so crazy. Um
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man, I don't even know where to begin. Uh the like I I I was nervous about the
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way that Holland was leaning back and he always does this but against someone like Daniel Rodriguez, he's known for
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just charging, throwing big looping punches and like really being able to
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reach his opponents. So to lean back against someone like that sounds like
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the exact thing your coach tells you not to do, you know, but hands up please. Yeah. Yeah. But no, he's he's going to
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lean back, lean back, and then eventually something touches you, and it could just touch you right on the nose, right on the goatee, and it's going to
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wobble you like in and uh Kevin Holland uh got wobbled a bunch, but then D-Rod
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got wobbled a bunch. There was a lot of back and forth. Um D-Rod was kind of up
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two rounds, but Holland started getting his momentum back in the second and the end of the second. didn't feel like
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enough to win the round, but still you felt like, oh, there's a chance that he can get a finish in the third. And he
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almost did. He almost did. He was so close. It It seemed so
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odd to me that Drock ended up on top in mount to finish the fight. And that's what
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ended up stealing the round. It was so close. It was so close. It was so close. And like I'm watching
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it with our girl Jenna and Tyler and they're doing the jiu-jitsu thing. Like you know how I'm a Muay Thai slob. They
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are very much jiu-jitsu slobs. Snobs. Slobs. Jiu-Jitsu.
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I'm telling them. I'm going to clip this. Holland was a jiu-jitsu. Hear what she said about you.
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Holland was a jiu-jitsu slob because he would jump on submissions that were not there, but he just got rocked. So you
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can't get mad at him, you know. He was like uh jumping on he jumped on the rear naked. He was kind of on the side.
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Looked like he was going to slip off then he did. Then he ended up on bottom. Then like you know all that stuff
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happened and he was like shooting up triangles but then not really working. Couldn't break the pre break down his
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posture. There was just a lot going on. You're like man if he just didn't jump on his back he would have won that
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fight. like if he had just stood there, kicked him in the side like uh uh Khalil Roundtree style, you know, and like not
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jumped onto that back position, but just hit from there because Drod was so ready to go out, like he was so ready to quit.
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But this guy, I've seen him survive um punch storms before and come out on top
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and end up getting the knockout. Um it's it's it's a really crazy power to have.
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Uh he fought our friend Dwight Grant and that's what happened. Like literally Dwight had him out on his feet. He was
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crawling around. Climbed up the cage. Don't think he put his fingers in the fence, but he did climb up the cage cage
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while getting punched. Turns around, drops Dwight in it insta fight. So, it's just like he he just has this superpower
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like uh like the like uh what's the guy's name? Deadpool, which is [ __ ]
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up. It's cuz he's from LA. He Yeah. He's like, "You can't do anything worse to me." It's like our other
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convict friend, our other ex-con fighter. You can't hurt me. I've already been
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hurt. Yeah. So, he he just is has a phenomenal
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chin and he put it on display there. And Kevin Holland uh wasn't able to finish, but uh yeah, it was an excellent fight.
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Like at the end of it, I was just like, "Well, at least you know who's going to fight tonight." Yeah, it'll it'll soften the blow to
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whoever loses. Yeah, exactly. And I just think it was well earned. I thought that they made great dance
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partners. Um just great display of of output. And I loved like that there was
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very little defense. Sometimes I can be kind of like kind of a snob about them. I'm like what? You know what the heck?
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But it it makes for slob of it. Defense slob. Oh man. Uh yeah, the I I
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do like violence every now and then. And to sprinkle that into the main card, I
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think helped it not lose that shine when you have like this crazy prelim card and
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everyone gets finished. Like that added like spice to the main card so you're not like, "Oh, all these decisions or
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all these technical fights you want." So just just shake it up, mix
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it up a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. It was a good addition to the main card. Um, and with that bonus,
27:14
they should both be able to pay all the baby mama all the child support.
27:21
I just doubling down on it. Yeah, they probably don't, but this is this is
27:26
how we see them. Oh, man. Just typ casting people all day.
27:32
Yeah, exactly. H well um the Costa Copilawa fight. What
27:39
did you think of that one? Man, Paulo Costa is he's back.
27:45
He's back. He looked good. He looked great. Yeah. And honestly, I predicted Copilov being
27:51
able to to capitalize, being able to, you know, kind of grapple him or anything, but there was there was really
27:57
none of that. Uh Paulo Costa had his number. He was, you know, getting him with the kicks,
28:03
getting him with the range, just really mixing it up in a way that kept Roman on the end of his strikes and not really
28:11
able to mount any kind of impressive offense. Yeah, we saw a lot of body kicks uh in this card and his body kicks
28:20
were like nasty looking. Somehow every time he threw it, it would sneak up
28:25
under the knee and catch him right in the stomach and just like take the wind out of Kapilov. And it wasn't until the
28:30
third round where uh Roman was able to kind of find his own rhythm and start
28:36
working back into the fight, but it was just too little too late. He's just completely reinvented himself.
28:42
Yeah, I'm I'm really impressed with what is making the difference here because it's Oh, you know what it is,
28:50
but we can't talk about it because it's a secret. Oh,
28:55
but I mean it it makes me happy to see, you know, someone that was kind of um you know, on a downward trend,
29:02
you know, coming back up and kind of reminding everybody why he he got there, why he's still there. And I I like
29:09
seeing that. I like that kind of storyline for sure. Um he is uh four or two and
29:15
four in his last six fights. Um so before this fight he was uh one and four
29:21
in his last five fights. And when you see that it's easy to just be like man this guy fell off. But when you look at
29:28
who it was it was Israel Adosana he lost to Marvin Vtori Whitaker and Sean
29:34
Strickland is one win was Luke Rockhold who actually looked pretty good in that fight. It was just he he started to gas
29:41
and look old halfway through it, you know, but he still had these moments of
29:47
what he looked like in his prime, Luke Rockold did in that fight. Um, but it was a clear a clear like sign that he
29:55
needed to retire. But that being your only win out of these five fights, it
30:01
skews what you're actually doing um in losses. And I think this was a great
30:07
person. And it was further down the line like uh rankings wise. It was a great person to kind of showcase to to take
30:14
the pressure off and just get in there and just do what you do. And he had a solid game plan. He he spammed the the
30:22
uh body kicks. He used it to set up his cross. Uh got a lot of damage in there
30:28
and then, you know, used all his gas tank so that when he gassed, he only had
30:33
half a round to deal with. Perfectly timed. Yeah. He was he was like I was one thing that I always
30:40
remember about Paulo Costa when he was coming up was that like a lot of his um a lot of his knockouts happened right
30:46
after a foul. I remember you always paying attention to that like right after a nutshot. Yeah. Right after Nutshot, right after I
30:53
poke. It doesn't matter if he got kicked in the nuts or his opponent did. He just needed that window of recovery
30:58
to like level up, power up, literally go for it. Less than 30 seconds later, the fight
31:04
would be finished. It's so crazy. That's crazy. Don't foul. How many times did that happen? It happened like three times. That's
31:09
hilarious. Like it it was crazy. I'm just like, "Dude, don't foul him because if you foul him, you're going to get put to
31:15
sleep." So So I was extra impressed that Copilo like didn't or that he didn't
31:23
need to like get that recharge in order to fight or in order to beat Copilov.
31:29
The PI adjustments are paying off. Yeah. All that secret juice. Yes. Oh, we can't talk about it. No, no, no, no. Look what you just did.
31:35
I'm sorry. Now it's going to be all over the comments. I want the recipe. I really want to know what's in it. It looks like it's just
31:42
purple Kool-Aid. But maybe it is with a little baking soda or something like that. Ooh,
31:49
scientific. Yes, people swear by it. You should try it sometime.
31:54
Really? Who else is doing the secret juice? It's like an uh Well, not the secret juice, but the baking powder or baking
32:00
soda, baking powder, whatever it is. It helps. Um, baking powder and Kool-Aid.
32:06
No, just Oh, just baking powder or baking soda? Baking soda? Yeah. In what?
32:11
Um, yeah, just in water. You just take it before workout and it helps with lactic acid buildup.
32:17
No way. Yeah. It's like an old school trick. Have you ever tried it? I've never tried it.
32:22
Huh? Maybe I'll try it this week. Yeah, try it this week. It doesn't make me throw up. See what it does with your grips. Well,
32:28
you know, just give yourself like a 30 minute hour window just like you would with like a pre-workout.
32:33
Okay. I'll just I'll just make sure I don't do it for like a practice that would hurt my confidence if
32:41
do it for badly. Yeah, do it for a mid session grapple like something.
32:46
H just like a a shadow box. But my roping.
32:51
Yeah. Oh man. Well, we're finally at the main
32:57
event. Max Holloway versus Dustin Porier. I gotta say, I'm a little
33:03
disappointed because I heard Dustin Porier was walking out with Lil Wayne.
33:11
He was in the octagon afterwards. I assumed he was like doing that big like
33:19
with the mic walk out like in boxing like they did for freaking Conor McGregor the guy that Dustin Pory a
33:25
beat. Well, they had Chenado Connor for McGregor one time. Yeah.
33:31
And then uh who did Chad Mendes had like a country singer, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So like they they did it
33:38
before and they didn't do it for Dustin. Well, and I heard Lil Wayne.
33:43
That's that's what I'm thinking. But I but you know they could have maybe they weren't going to do it for
33:50
Dustin. They just didn't want to afford it. They didn't want to afford it. That's that's a shame. But Lil Wayne was there
33:56
in his uh little cardigan. I love him. His little cardigan looking like a
34:02
looking like a proud grandma with his messy bun.
34:08
Oh my god. Someone said he looked like Wolfie Gold. I was like, "Stop it. No. Stop it. How dare you a little bit
34:16
though. But he seemed really happy. I I do love celebrities being into MMA
34:23
because it starts to give us that uh just that um
34:28
just that extra credibility. Yeah. Notoriety. Yeah. The eyes. the there's more eyes on
34:35
things that celebrities do, you know, and so like the more celebrities that are getting into like I feel like every
34:41
pay-per-view there's a ton of super famous people. Yeah. He's always first one in the
34:48
arena. Yeah. Yeah. In Dana's section front and center just sitting there like watching every fight.
34:54
I love it. Oh yeah. Yeah. And he did you see him vibing out with Jimmy Croo with the
34:59
mullet? No. Oh, you didn't see that? I didn't. Yeah, he Jimmy Crew uh he got
35:04
a sub. He came out and then Theo Van was the first to greet him. He's like, "Yeah, man." And he's like, "Oh, they're
35:10
shaking their mullets like uh like dogs just got out of the pool, you know." Oh my gosh, how cute. I love it.
35:17
Yeah. So, they were um he was he was there for a fight and uh yeah, I feel
35:22
like a lot of celebrities have just been uh coming in. Uh who's the girl from
35:28
from uh Devil Wears Prada? She was there
35:33
oneway. No, the other one. The mean one at the desk.
35:38
Oh, Emma. Yeah. What was her name? What is her name? But you know what I'm talking about, right? She was there
35:45
because she was in the Rock movie about the wrestler.
35:50
Oh, yeah. I didn't realize. Yeah. So, she was in one of She was at uh UFC Fight Week. She was at uh one of
35:58
those fight or maybe she was just at the Hall of Fame thing. But anyway, super famous people are flocking to MMA and
36:05
finding out what it is and enjoying it as much as super famous people enjoy being seen at boxing. Even though they
36:12
probably don't know as much, you know, about boxing or MMA, but I think it's cool. I think it's good
36:18
whether they're there just, you know, to be seen or if they're actually a fan. I think it's I think it all helps
36:24
support uh celebrities, support our credibility. But yeah,
36:30
anyway, um Line, he didn't sing, but he walked out the Sorier and uh yeah, what
36:38
were the feels when he just like stepped into the cage and looked around and this
36:44
deep breaths? Yeah, I think it was an absolutely beautiful moment. It's uh we talk about like fighters retiring and not everybody
36:51
gets that like amazing sendoff and I think that um you know seeing the seeing
36:57
the emotions seeing him get that kind of uh storybook ending almost I know it
37:02
didn't go his way but it's still um a retirement that not a lot of people will
37:09
receive and I think it was a great send off for him. Yeah. And uh Max Holloway is like the
37:15
best guy to do it for like a tough veteran that doesn't want an easy fight.
37:22
Like Max Holloway is going to be the guy they always call because he's so respectful. Like when he when he sent
37:29
off a Korean zombie, it was the same thing. Nasty. Well, there wasn't a knockout, but with Korean zombie, nasty
37:35
knockout. But you know, he he did this really quick like, "Hey, this is my moment. This is his moment. Thank you
37:42
for having me, blah blah blah. You know, thank you for He's so classy. And then he did the same thing with Dustin, too.
37:48
So, I I think that he's the guy you call when he retires your fighters.
37:53
Yeah, he'll retire fighters. If you beat him, that's great. But like, you don't have to worry about him being a dick if
38:00
he beats you. Yeah, that's always nice. He's just going to peace out like, "Hey, thanks. Thanks for the fight. Yeah, I
38:05
got another one. All right, bye." and then let you do your thing, let you enjoy your your crowd and and everything
38:11
like that. So, I I like that Max has been carrying himself in that way. He's an awesome guy and that's that's why uh
38:18
people are like, "Man, this fight sucks because you're just like you don't want
38:23
either of them to lose." Yeah, it uh I mean they still they put on, you know,
38:28
they put on a great fight and I think that it was an amazing sendoff and I think that
38:35
um it it solidifies Max in the division as well. Yeah. And um Dana was saying in the post-fight
38:42
press conference that it just kind of uh bumps his his position in the division
38:48
up and so it kind of puts him in a place where he can do whatever he wants. And honestly with the following that he has,
38:54
how fans love him that he can kind of call his shots, which is an amazing place to be.
39:00
Yeah, that is. So, what did you think about the fight in general? I I felt like, and I didn't hear it, but I felt
39:07
like I saw people telling Porier that he won when he was walking out of the cage
39:13
like uh you know, he was greeted by um a bunch of fighters. um uh TheoN
39:21
uh like uh Kayla Harrison like there were a bunch of fighters and and it
39:26
looked like some of them are mouththing like I thought you won or something like that. Yeah. Yeah.
39:32
I mean I and then I heard the commentators comment like yeah you know I it it was
39:38
pretty clear that Max won but it was a close fight but yeah I'm I'm curious. It
39:43
was close, but it and maybe I misheard, but like that's what it looked like when he was walking
39:50
out of the cage and people were coming up to him and there was like a whole thing. Someone shoved [ __ ] Bud Light
39:56
hat on him and made him take a beer. Like that's the last thing I want to drink after this fight. Like give me
40:01
something hard. Give me the give me some like whiskey or something. Like this is my last fight. You going to give me a
40:07
Bud Light? I'm just going to have to pee in two seconds to rehydrate. Ah, yeah.
40:13
Come on. Yeah, basically water. Exactly the point. Um I I thought that Max had him on on the speed, the volume,
40:20
the sharpness. You know, he obviously stumbled him. Mhm. Um Dustin was landing the power shots,
40:27
but I I just think that the accumulation and the the pressure and just the the
40:35
whole body of work, I don't think it was a question that Max won. Yeah, I think there were a couple close rounds like
40:41
the third and the fourth. I felt like they almost were doing combo trades, you know, like it didn't seem like anyone
40:47
was really getting super ahead and it did like Max was landing more volume in
40:52
those rounds, but it looked like Porier's power was meeting the volume, so it was hard to tell. And I think uh
41:00
one judge gave him the third and fourth, but uh the one
41:06
round that I was questioning was the second because it was such a crazy
41:11
round. Like there was um Max like had Porier hurt. It looked like he was going
41:16
to finish him. Then Porier like stood up, hits him with something, drops Max,
41:21
jumps at the guillotine. And even though it was like the last minute of the round, I wasn't sure how judges were
41:26
going to see that. Like I'm like, "Oh, are they gonna like really put a lot of weight on this last like 30 seconds or
41:33
are they gonna weigh the fact that Max had him on the back foot and had him
41:39
dropped and concussed for like most of that second round?" So, that was one thing I was com I was like curious about
41:46
like what that second round was going to be scored. I think one judge only gave Porier the second round. So, it's it's
41:52
like really all over the place. The scorecards were Yeah. I want to see what that
41:58
Oh, I think I pulled it up for you. Did you pull it? I thought I did, too, but I wanted to see what the judges did because that's
42:03
Okay, here we go. So, Derek clearly saw round three and four for Porier. Uh,
42:13
Eric Coen gave round four for Porier and then Salamato only gave Porier round
42:20
two, which I think is weird. Um, and but that was the the one that I was like,
42:27
"Oh, I'm curious." Because people don't know how to [ __ ] judge. Like, I'm curious.
42:32
It It's so strange when you look at scorecards and like all the media scores scored it for
42:38
Holloway, though. There's like 15 here and most of them scored it for Holloway. Some gave him all the rounds. Um, I I
42:47
think a lot of people gave Porier round three and four just because they were so close and he seemed to have more power
42:53
in those rounds than Max. Max seemed to still be recovering from that second round, but then the fifth round it was
43:00
like, "Oh, Max." Especially after they touched it, they did the point. No, no. I love that they were both
43:09
anticipating it and then Porier was just kind of like, "All right, you going to
43:14
do it?" And then Max was like, "All right, let's do it." Lance two shots and he just goes, "Okay, okay.
43:21
I was just kidding. I changed my mind." It's okay to change your mind. Like, yo, my my daughter's in the crowd.
43:26
Like, I'm not going to stop. I thought I wanted it, but I don't.
43:33
No, I stop. Yeah. Um I feel like I feel like that one moment that that Max did it with
43:39
Gachi, like that's I'm I'm good with just that one. I'm good with just that one. Could you imagine if he had done it
43:45
again though? Oh my god. Hey, but Porier did land a little It almost looked like a elbow. He
43:51
landed like a really short hook, like a really short right hook right in that moment. So, it looked like he had a plan
43:57
for it, but it didn't work. Max's chin is too tough. He's like, he could have
44:03
done it in the second round, but not this round. Oh, man. But what a what a crazy fight,
44:09
man. That was that was a lot of back and forth. When he like when he wobbled Max in that second round and jumped on the
44:15
guillotine, I was screaming. I had this shirt on last night, too.
44:24
I When a fighter has somebody hurt from strikes, I understand the excitement
44:31
that you just kind of run in and jump off, but come on, create space and keep punching.
44:36
He could have kept punching. He could have kept punching or he could have gotten it. Yeah. Yeah, he could have kept punching. Um, yeah, it goes
44:42
back to the Holland uh uh D-Rod fight, too. Like there was all the opportunity
44:49
to just keep punching. But for some reason, I don't know, maybe you're just more comfortable on the ground, you
44:55
know, you're not going to get hurt. If you have their head locked up in something, like even if they defend it, you got that little moment of air.
45:05
It's a false sense of security. It is because as soon as you fall off, you're getting [ __ ] up and now you're on your back and now you
45:10
got to work your way up and now you're getting punched while you're trying to do it. Yeah, it really is. It's just that that
45:16
uh moment of like, ah, ah, I'm safe. Oh no. And I speak from experience.
45:23
I always think it's a good idea to pull. Oh god.
45:28
Yeah. Sometimes it sucks. It sucks. I mean, when it works, it's great, but you know, it's like the percentage of times that
45:34
it works is definitely it's not much less. It's much less than when it just just like, you know, as the rounds
45:41
go on, the percentage of you being able to get a submission or get this or get that just because of fatigue and
45:47
slipperiness and all all of that stuff. Like those statistics are real. It's not desperation. Like it I I don't know. I
45:55
feel like it's so much easier to defend a rear naked in the last round or just decide you're going to go out than it is
46:02
in the first round, you know, or than it is in the beginning of the round. Because if you look at the clock and it's like 3 minutes and that shit's in
46:10
deep, you're like, "Ah, man. Long time to defend." But if it's 18 seconds, all right, hey,
46:16
let maybe I'll just lift my chin. Let her burn her arms out on my neck.
46:22
Go to my corner. You'll be all tired, you know. See what happens. Yeah. Yeah. Why not? What's the worst
46:28
that could happen? Oh, head pops off. Yes.
46:33
Teeth get caved in. You get put to sleep, pee yourself on national television. I
46:39
mean, the possibilities, it's a lot. I know. I risk a lot when I wear my
46:45
white fight kit. You do. I know. I always think of Yansancy Maderas.
46:50
A or Justine Kish. Oh, guess what color I requested?
46:58
What? Yellow. Well, at least it'll disguise peace.
47:04
How are you requesting yellow? What flag are you are you walking? I got to They're going to send me the list and then I'll figure it out. But
47:12
like it's stupid because even though our flag is red, white, and blue, we can't wear red. That's not like one of the
47:18
options that they give us. So I had to represent Angola. Yes.
47:24
Because it's close to my name and it's an African country. There's no telling. I'm I probably have some angle in me
47:30
somewhere. Totally. Let them question. Angola right here. Angle of my elbows.
47:38
Well, that's fun. I always wonder I always see people wearing like a purplish color now. Yeah. I wonder what they're requesting.
47:45
Yeah, exactly. Which like is it like an island or something? Cuz I know they're not from there.
47:50
No, no. I I feel like uh the first time they did purple was the Missouri card
47:57
or St. Louis. There was St. Louis card and it was like St. Louis flag or something and everybody wore purple.
48:05
I don't know if they all got together and was like, "Hey, let's wear purple or
48:10
play the system." There's like six guys from St. Louis on that card and they all wore purple. I was like, "Oh, but I want to wear yellow
48:18
because I want to represent Maryland and did red last time." So, I was like, I have my Maryland colors if I wear
48:24
yellow, too. That'll be a cute little shadow box. Just like put them like stacking. Yeah. Have the flag in the background
48:30
and then like my red kid and my yellow kid. Yeah. See,
48:37
I got you. You feel me? I do. So, there were a couple wild things that happened. Um the Brendan Allen Vtori
48:43
fight, there was like a little background with that. They had uh this fight at the casino. Do you remember
48:50
that? Yes. Yeah. Excuse me. They're like te
48:59
excited. Love. Surprised your legs didn't go up. I know.
49:04
Oh, tell. Yeah, they had that fight at a casino. I don't remember what happened
49:10
with that casino fight, but that happened. People were like, "Book the fight. That'd be a good fight." It
49:15
finally went down and Brendan Allen went to town on Vtori. I think it was back
49:21
and forth. I felt like the right person won the fight. But, you know, Brendan Allen does his jiu-jitsu [ __ ] and gets
49:27
in trouble as we discussed and gets in positions where he probably could have avoided if he stood standing. I think he
49:34
doesn't trust in his striking. Well, he should have. If he watches the footage back of this fight, he should trust his
49:41
striking from now on because he looked good. Yeah. And I mean, we've said that in his fights before. I think we said that when
49:47
we watched him fight uh um uh Action Man
49:52
uh Chris. Yeah. Yeah. When when we watched that fight, I was like, "Oh, his striking looks like
49:58
way better than I expected." But then he goes for the desperation takedowns and it's like you could have just stayed
50:04
striking and waited for that opportunity instead of trying to force it. He's so rangy and and he does use his range well. It's
50:11
like he really like turns the punches over. He sticks them. He's mixing in kicks. So he and he has such uh such
50:17
size and and reach on people. He really should trust it more. Yeah. like he really smashed up Vtori's
50:24
nose with like a cross like he he has good timing and stuff and like the range like you said is just it's really hard
50:31
to deal with. Um it's like it's like our girl uh Ashley Yoder when she trusts in her striking she's able to land like
50:38
head kicks she's able to land like big one twos just like really be annoying on the feet but then she'll be like ah I
50:44
don't feel comfortable and then goes back to the jiu-jitsu where she she feels like warm and fuzzy. Yeah. And it kind of evens the playing
50:50
field. like you just had an advantage and it's it's crazy that they don't recognize it.
50:56
Yeah. Yeah. It's hard when you were told so long and I get that too where I'm
51:01
told so long you can't you can't go to the ground with someone. You can't go to the ground with someone and then you
51:06
start realizing that you're better grappler than the person you can't go to the ground with. It's hard to break
51:12
that, you know, break that mental uh uh kind of Yeah. that mental wall that
51:18
you put on yourself. But what I was going to say about the Allan Vtori fight is like a lot of people were criticizing
51:23
Brendan Allen for his postfight speech. Um I missed the postfight speech. So Vtori's brother died recently.
51:31
Oh yeah. It was really sad. And um Vtori had to deal with that during his camp.
51:37
And then um when Brendan Allen fought he he's in you know New Orleans and his
51:44
brother who's disabled was able to make it to the show. And so in his postfight
51:50
speech, he says, you know, uh, like no one could [ __ ] with me. Not not when I'm
51:55
fighting New Orleans in front of my brother. Like no one's going to beat me in front of my brother. And people are kind of criticizing him on that. And I
52:02
think it's unfair. I think that's I think it's just a a really like bad
52:08
coincidence. It's like kind of something that would happen on uh Kirby Enthusiasm,
52:14
you know, like like Yeah. And Yeah. It would be like a a cringy, uncomfortable laugh moment
52:20
appropriate on TV, but in real life. Yeah. And I I mean I I hope that his
52:28
intention wasn't to, you know, do anything like that. I think that he was just, you know, showing love for his
52:34
brother. It sounds like I honestly feel like he had no like he
52:39
he wasn't even like I I it sounds like he knew about it, but I don't think he knew what it sounded like when he said
52:46
it. Like I think his main focus was my brother's here. I want him to feel good about being here.
52:52
But like unfortunately it looked like he was
52:57
being an [ __ ] again towards Ftori after they had all this drama outside of
53:03
the cage. Like it just looks like a continuous [ __ ] like uh circle jerk.
53:10
Yeah. An [ __ ] circle jerk. What?
53:15
God. some visuals right now. Yes. Just really nothing to do with fighting either.
53:21
But I I I honestly feel like Brendan Allen didn't mean it that way. I don't think so. I I it would be so
53:28
messed up if he did. Like I can't imagine like I've met him before. Like I can't imagine like a normal person doing
53:36
that to someone. And I think it's weird. Well, not weird, but I think it's uh unfair for fans to jump to that
53:42
conclusion like, "Oh, he's just saying that to [ __ ] with Victoria after his brother died. He's such a horrible person." Like I No, he's just
53:49
like a terrible projection. Yeah. I think he's just really excited that his brother is there and like if
53:54
you have a disabled brother and they've been like his brother's probably been his biggest fan, you know, his biggest
54:02
supporter. The fact that he was able to make it to a show finally uh meant a lot to him and I think that's all it was.
54:08
I'm going to hold him high and say that that was the case. Yeah. Yeah. Don't don't do him like that.
54:14
Come on, guys. Come on, guys. Find find something else to troll people about and be offended about.
54:19
Yeah. Yeah. But uh but yeah, it was a good fight. Um and could have been fight of the night.
54:26
Like uh it was a lot of back and forth. On another card, Vtori versus Allen
54:32
could have been fighting night on another card. But this card was insane. It was pretty cool. And it's um it was
54:39
cool that it was a pay-per-view. Cool. Cool location, too. I just think
54:44
the the buildup all around it was pretty awesome. Pretty epic. Yeah, super epic. Um, yeah. So, that is
54:52
what it Oh, did you hear about that Islam Duratov guy as a model?
54:58
Yes, I did. He's going to do he has a a some kind of GQ uh gig that he has to do on Monday.
55:06
So, well, now him and Alan Joan, what a dick. Like,
55:15
like when he's walking in, they're like, "This guy has two Ferraris." there. No, two Lamborghinis.
55:22
What is it? What is this trend with like rich boys becoming good at MMA? Do you think
55:28
Well, they have all the resources to do so. You think they got uh they got tired of
55:33
what was it? Horse was the horse thing with the polo. Was it the thing with the horse and the
55:39
mallet? Polo? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You think they got tired of polo? I guess so. I guess they got they got
55:46
just bored. like I'm going to I'm going to defy daddy's wishes,
55:52
not become a lawyer or a doctor or someone in finance and I'm just going
55:58
to, you know, blue collar it blue collar. I'm going to go incognito.
56:03
They put some dirt on their face, show up at a nearest boxing gym. I belong here. Teach me, young sir. Here's two
56:10
shillings. Tosses him to show me your finest techniques of pugilism.
56:20
Well, that love that for him. That's great.
56:25
Drives up to [ __ ] rundown boxing gym in his Lamborghini.
56:30
He gets dropped off around the corner. His butler drops him off. Exactly. In his Bentley.
56:37
Yeah. Daddy's Bentley. Alfred, pull around the front in about 1 hour and 30 minutes. Don't be late and
56:43
have my coconut juice waiting in the cooler for me. Don't forget the protein shake. I'll eat
56:50
it. Yes, master.
56:55
Well, yeah, that's all I got. Are you excited for next week's fight?
57:02
What's next week's fight? Whitaker versus Der. I'm a little nervous about this one.
57:08
Yeah. What? Whitaker. Uh, he just dropped one, right?
57:13
I Oh, yeah, he did. Who did he Oh, Kamzat Chamayv.
57:20
Uh, dang. Yeah, dude. I I've erased that from my memory. I'm getting flashbacks now of the rear.
57:26
Was it a rear naked choke? Was it his teeth? Yeah, it was a face crank. His teeth popped out. Yes, his teeth.
57:32
His poor teeth. Yeah, his his his jaw broke in that one. Um, versus Kamzat
57:39
Chamay. And uh I remember when he fought Drius Taclassis, too. So I was just like, "Oh man, there's no way that this
57:47
herkyjerky [ __ ] is going to get past Whitaker." And he did. And he did. And RDR is kind of the same kind of
57:55
puzzle to solve. Like, no. And he's just so big and overwhelming. He's so off rhythm, too. But his
58:02
technique is solid. like it it's almost like drizzles but then like he'll pull
58:08
out a beautiful knee with perfect like uh the the knee that you see on a Muay
58:13
Thai logo. You know what I mean? Like like if there is a Muay Thai shoe and it
58:20
was like you know the Jordans like the Yeah. like the perfect like dunk
58:26
position like the knee that he throws would be on the Muay Thai shoe. I understand what you're saying.
58:31
Yeah. Yeah. That's That was kind of random, but I I got where you're going with it. So,
58:38
this this matchup on paper to me, I see Robert Whitaker's path to victory being
58:44
his like stealthy, fast in out, using the boxing, using the kicks, um, and
58:50
just staying in the center, keeping his back off the cage. Yeah, I think it could bust up his
58:55
knees, too, because he's he's um, you know, he he stands at a distance. He's
59:01
He's uh I don't know, kind of like off rhythm when he comes in. I feel like
59:06
Whitaker could pop in and do that little dirty like knee stomp to him, bust him up that way. Uh but yeah, it's it's it's
59:14
a tough one because this guy, he can win anywhere like RDR, he can get you down to the ground and just pound you out
59:21
there, get a submission, get something weird, or he can knock you out, put you up against the fence. I think uh yeah,
59:29
it it's just another fight where we're gonna see how good RDR is against UFC
59:34
competition. I know I'm I don't want to bet against him because I've learned my lesson, but
59:41
I also am not going to go against Bobby Knuckles. So, I am at an impass.
59:47
Well, this is um one of the rare uh occasions where you have someone coming in from another promotion and actually
59:54
doing really well in the UFC. Yeah. What's he streaking in like four? Uh he's uh three and0 in the UFC. He
1:00:02
beat Gerald Mirart by arm triangle choke, Kevin Hollow by rear naked, and
1:00:08
then Bone Nickel by Needed a Body. So he's three and0 with three finishes.
1:00:15
Insane against names, you know, like not nobody's in the UFC against names. So he
1:00:21
he really is working his way up. Maybe that's kind of the route you want to take when you're coming in from another
1:00:28
promotion. Like imagine if Patchy Mix got someone who was more of a Gerald Mirart level when he first got into or
1:00:35
Pitbull, you know, instead they fought like in the top 10 and they were tough fights.
1:00:41
I think there is something to dipping your toes in to your division.
1:00:46
Oh, they hit hard here. Oh, they know how to wrestle. That's
1:00:51
different. just like just start just start in the shallow end first and then like weigh in and then you you know deep
1:00:59
dive you just jump into that top five and you're ready. It's and I and I get you wanting to you
1:01:04
know really make a statement and you know put your stamp on your name and and why you're there. But I think there is
1:01:10
something to just kind of easing into it. Yeah. I mean, they have uh I for uh who
1:01:16
was it? There there's there's a couple people who were brought in from Bellator, former champions. Um and then
1:01:24
just thrown to the Wolves, lost a couple, and then chucked out. Um I'm
1:01:30
thinking was it Ill Will? Oh, Ill Brooks.
1:01:36
Um yeah, I feel like that's who I'm thinking of.
1:01:43
Where is he now? Uh he's he was in GFL. A
1:01:49
yeah, it is a it's a shame. But yeah, uh Illwood Brooks, he was Bellator. He was
1:01:55
in Bellator. Was he Bellator Champion? I don't recall. I feel like he was Bellator Champion, but he was he was in Bellator. He went
1:02:02
to the UFC, won his first fight against Ross Pearson, then lost his next three
1:02:08
and got chucked out. Um, and his his next ones were like Alex Aivera,
1:02:15
uh, Brazilian cowboy, then Charles Alivera, and then Nick Lent. So, these are top guys at that time back in like
1:02:23
2017. And, you know, he was still like an impressive fighter, still beating people
1:02:31
outside of the UFC, had a a sixight win streak before he retired. So yeah, it's
1:02:38
just one of those things where like you wonder what would happen if someone was able to just kind of hang out in the
1:02:43
sidelines instead of go straight to the top competition. But when you're a former champion, that's not really an
1:02:49
option. Yeah, I guess not. Unless you have a really good manager. Hey, there you go. Who's the RG's
1:02:54
manager, man? He's doing it. He's doing well for him. Um, I was
1:03:00
really excited for this Aaron Pico and um, Evolve fight, but uh, Mosar backed
1:03:07
out on this one. He has a really impressive streak with backing out of fights. Um,
1:03:14
yes. Yes. Uh, and then we have Peter Yan and Marcus McGee. This is a big step up for
1:03:20
McGee. Oh man, I'm really excited for this one. This is going to be a fun one. Um, I I
1:03:26
feel like Peter Yan, if he shows up the way, you know, he has in the past, he definitely
1:03:32
has more tools, but Marcus McGee is really like steadily making a name for himself.
1:03:38
Yeah, I think we don't really know all of Marcus McGee's tools yet, which makes him exciting. Like, people are always
1:03:44
excited about the new guy. Um, but Marcus McGee, he's he's just been kind of grinding on the sidelines and and
1:03:51
just got this little pop after he got a couple finishes. He um finished Gaston
1:03:59
Balanos with a will kick. That was crazy. Balanos is the guy who uh has
1:04:05
like a ton of like elbow knockouts in Bellator and stuff. another guy who kind
1:04:11
of got uh thrown to the wolves when he came over and uh his KO by JP B was
1:04:17
another one that put him on the map. Then he fought Jonathan Martinez which was a really big step up and went
1:04:23
through some adversity but was able to like still get the win over him in New
1:04:28
York. So, uh this is going to be a big one for him. still still kind of in the
1:04:34
area of coming out party for Marcus McGee, but if he can get past Pota Yan, that's like any anytime you get a former
1:04:42
champion on your record, win or lose, people are going to be looking at you.
1:04:48
Um, but definitely he's going to be wanting to get that big win in a big way.
1:04:53
Yeah, that'll catapult him into the into the rankings. Yeah. And we have Bryce Mitchell at
1:04:58
bantamweight now. What? Yeah. What? Yes.
1:05:04
When did this happen now? It's happening. Geez. Yeah. He announced after his after his
1:05:10
loss to uh Jean Silva that he was moving down to bantamweight. Oh
1:05:16
yeah. So he's taking on Nagam Medov. Yeah. Yeah. It was all over the place. Fighting Nurmaga Metaf.
1:05:21
Yes. Oh gosh. I'm like maybe they're really upset with him. Like you can tell by the
1:05:27
I mean you can tell by the matchups. I'm sure he pissed off the the the the guys on
1:05:33
top with his little fishing fishing podcast.
1:05:38
Yeah, that probably wasn't one that don't piss those guys off, man.
1:05:43
Yeah, you got to be careful. Yeah. Also, don't say you want to hang out with Hitler to anybody
1:05:50
ever. It's just bad. Especially not on camera. It can be so like I don't I don't I didn't see the
1:05:56
whole thing. And I don't remember the whole context of everything, but it's just not something he said he would enjoy going fishing
1:06:01
with Hitler. Yeah. It's one of those things he can't forget. Yeah. If if you clip that anyway, it's
1:06:09
going to be bad. Yeah. So, I was uh talking with Adam yesterday cuz I've been making him watch
1:06:15
Love Island and I have not yet watched that and it's so surprising to me because everybody tells
1:06:21
me to watch it, but I'm watching uh Bachelor in Paradise right now. Yeah.
1:06:26
just started. Same. Same. Yeah, I'm I'm actually pretty late. They already did the season finale, but I'm on like episode three.
1:06:34
And when it got to episode like two, one of the girls that we were kind of hating
1:06:40
on the entire time, she had like really shiny makeup. Uh she wasn't there
1:06:45
anymore. And and I was like, "Wait, did they just like get rid of someone?" And then Adam's like, "No, they're talking
1:06:51
about someone else." I'm like, "No, they got rid of her." and he looked her up and they yanked her from the show because she got caught saying like uh
1:06:58
slurs online, racial slurs online on a podcast. Oh yeah. So she is uh I forget where she
1:07:08
said she was from, but she's like Hispanic uh like maybe Colia or something and she was dropping the nword
1:07:14
on it, but like with the soft a but still it's like dude you like it's not your word. only black people
1:07:21
could say that on tape and not get in trouble for it. And it's not like this
1:07:28
like freedom of speech kind of thing. Like she has the freedom to do whatever she wants. She's not going to go to jail
1:07:34
for dropping the n-word on a podcast, but you might not be able to, you know,
1:07:40
do a show where you're getting paid. you know, like, hey, like if people don't want to deal with the PR nightmare of
1:07:47
having you on the show because you did something controversial, then like, yeah, you should have thought about
1:07:52
that. I know any better. It's just weird to me. And like that's when you said don't say it on tape. Like that's what I was saying to Adam. Like
1:07:59
personally, like I've been in a room where a lot of people who were not black
1:08:04
are using the N word and like it's like it it just is what it is. But to go on
1:08:10
like record and like record yourself purposefully like you, you know, you set
1:08:16
the camera up, you put the [ __ ] mic in your face and you're going to say that like you you got to know that
1:08:21
there's going to be consequences if someone sees that. People will see it. Yeah. You you made it so viral like like
1:08:28
that was your purpose and people will comment on it and you're not going to like it. I don't I just I
1:08:34
don't understand. I understand how, you know, people make mistakes, but I feel
1:08:39
like with with racism, with, you know, inappropriate comments like that, I just
1:08:44
feel like you should be more mindful, have more than that. And and it's obvious the girl isn't
1:08:50
racist per se. Uh but like she's using a word that isn't her word. And that's
1:08:55
something that people are going to have issues with. And if people have issues with something, then it could cost you,
1:09:02
you know? And so, like, if you can air on the side of caution and just like speak a certain way on camera, speak a
1:09:09
certain way when you're with your friends and your homies and you're like [ __ ] in your space where you trust,
1:09:16
you can say something like, "I'd go fishing with Hitler." And you're not going to tell other
1:09:21
people. Like one of those like stupid things you say when you're drunk. Yeah. like just really stupid off-the- cuff things.
1:09:28
Well, I say a lot of dumb [ __ ] that I wouldn't put on camera to to you and to my friends and to my husband, but like
1:09:34
you got to you got to know that line. And yeah, anybody can say whatever they
1:09:40
want, but like you can't be mad when the consequences hit you. Um, so I think these are the consequences. Uh, Price
1:09:47
Mitchell fighting fighting a Nurga Medov at 135. Um interested to see how he
1:09:54
looks cuz he looked lean at 145 to me and he's tall but we do see some big old
1:10:01
people making weight. Um our girl uh Samo ended up fighting Dakota Deva this
1:10:07
weekend as well and Dakota looked huge and Seamiko's like a a thick like strong
1:10:14
Hawaiian girl. Dakota was towering over her. So I'm I'm like how does that girl
1:10:19
make 125? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, she cuts a lot. Yeah. So, he could come out looking like
1:10:25
that, just like really tall, really lean, and have an advantage in that way. So, we'll see uh what Mitchell ends up
1:10:32
looking like at 135. I'm interested. Yeah, I'm definitely going to be watching with interest. Um I I don't
1:10:38
know how it's going to go cuz again, when we have somebody coming down in weight, it could fare very well for
1:10:44
them, you know, having that kind of size and strength advantage or it could completely deplete them. Like we saw
1:10:50
that um uh Cub Swanson comes to mind, you know, he dropped down to to banttom
1:10:55
weight from featherweight and it just it didn't farewell for him. It's just too taxing on his body. He has so much like
1:11:01
lean muscle mass. Yeah. Yeah. It's a tough one. Um Yeah. So, we'll see. Uh who else we got?
1:11:08
Oh, we got uh Magamed off versus
1:11:14
We got another Yeah, we have uh your your boy. Oh, the pirate. Oh, Sharah.
1:11:21
Yes. Sharer Putin. Yes. And he's fighting Mark Andre Bar.
1:11:28
Okay. Um and and Mark Andre has some power in his punches. So I And he has good
1:11:35
grappling as well. I think this is going to be an interesting fight. I'm giving I'm giving Mark Andre a slight
1:11:41
advantage. Also wishful thinking. Punch him in the eye. Get him. Go get
1:11:47
him. Yeah. Uh, interesting. Um, yeah. I don't know. I I
1:11:54
feel like Sherah is is still like not really
1:11:59
looking like the the phenom that people were talking about. And maybe it's
1:12:05
because he won't take a picture with me. Maybe. You know what? He sealed his fate that
1:12:12
day. The MMA gods are offended. They will have none of it. None of the
1:12:18
disrespect for Miss Overkill. You love me, Sherah. All she wanted was a picture.
1:12:23
I just wanted a couple pictures with the other fans. He had to make me feel like an other like a [ __ ]
1:12:31
Oh my god. Made me feel like harim. What is it they say? They said that's harim. I don't know that that term.
1:12:38
Yeah, it's like they say when uh when like a woman's being like inappropriate towards a Muslim man.
1:12:44
Oh my goodness. Yeah, that's what I was doing. Oh, haram. Haram.
1:12:50
Oh, wait. What is the song? Oh, well, I mean it's it's an expression.
1:12:56
It must be the expression though, right? Wait, meaning that's haram meaning. Uh, that's
1:13:04
haram means forbidden or sacred sacred prohibition referring to actions, behaviors, or things that are permitted
1:13:11
by Islamic law. So yeah, when me me taking a photo with him uh at a fan meet
1:13:17
and greet, I wasn't the fan. I was one of the other fighters. You were up until he rejected you.
1:13:22
Yeah, I I I was excited to like, you know, see him. I was like, "Oh, this is
1:13:28
the guy, the pirate guy." And then the fans would come up and we take a photo
1:13:34
and then he's like, "What is this girl doing in all of my pictures?"
1:13:39
What a dick. I'm assuming that's what he said. He didn't say it in English, but he goes
1:13:44
and uh yeah, they were like, "Oh, could you guys take pictures separately now?" And like I didn't want to take a picture
1:13:50
with them anyway. Management got involved. Damn it. They said, "You're being haram. Uh can you
1:14:01
never wear a crop top again?" But yeah, uh double down, I think. Yeah, just
1:14:07
crop top and booty shorts. I'll just take my tits out. Like, all right, let's take these photos. Fans, line up.
1:14:16
They won't notice. They're They're pretty flat. Like, they're like, "Oh, Kevin Holland's
1:14:22
here." Stop it, Max. You shaved your beard.
1:14:28
Oh, stop it. Uh, they still say the nail magny thing, but I feel like I've evolved past nail
1:14:35
magny. It's cuz you have braids now. I don't think Oh, because he has braids now. Yeah, he has braids now. When he had a short
1:14:41
haircut, no one was saying, "No, Magny." Like, we both had short haircuts and
1:14:47
that's when it started. Yeah. And then I grew my hair out and then it
1:14:52
stopped. But now he has braids. You're [ __ ] it up for me, Neil. Cut your hair, man.
1:14:57
You're holding on to it. Go to Turkey or cut it. Like, no. He doesn't have a receding hairline,
1:15:04
does he? He doesn't. Is it? I think. Tell me. He never posts anything, so I
1:15:10
never see his stuff. I don't want to research this. I feel bad now. Let's just say he's fine.
1:15:16
He's fine. Yeah, he's just got a forehead. He just got a little forehead, that's all. Which I'm kind of getting with all
1:15:24
these braids. I need to chill out. Go natural after this fight. Make some bangs.
1:15:29
Yeah. Yeah. Make some uh what do you call it? Afro bangs. Um yeah. So, uh,
1:15:35
Sherah, I I think I think he could get exposed by Mark Andrew. I mean, he did by Michael Venom Page,
1:15:42
but that's a very specific style. That is a very hard style to prepare
1:15:48
and the way he fought him, too. It was very defensive. He didn't really uh engage a lot. Michael Vin Page didn't.
1:15:55
So, Sher was just very frustrated. But, I feel like that's a game plan. Like, you frustrated. pop in, lay your
1:16:01
punches, get out of there, or you take him down and and hold him there. Like that. I think that's like the thing you
1:16:07
want to do. But he has been knocked out in two of his last three fights. So, you
1:16:13
got to think that if Sher does land some kind of like, you know, one of his flicky little uh kicks or his uh pop his
1:16:21
uh spinner to the spinner punch combination, it could do damage and be the end of the fight. So, this is a
1:16:27
tough one to pick, but I'm going to root for my boy who wouldn't kick me out of his photo because I was wearing a crop
1:16:33
top. Damn straight. Let's go, Mark. Uh, and uh, who else do we have on this
1:16:42
before we get out of here? Hold on. Let me get back to my
1:16:47
I know. I can't find it. No, I got it. I got it pulled up. On the Oh, we're down to the prelims.
1:16:53
Oh, we have Amanda Heibbas and Tabitha Richi. Oh, yeah. Um, they're the only women on the card.
1:17:04
And that's I mean, honestly, there's a lot of names that I will have to do research on because I do not recognize
1:17:10
them otherwise. Dave Grant versus Dean Blackshere. That's a big Oh, there we go. Opening the card.
1:17:17
Yeah, that's I almost missed that one. Yeah, that's that's that's a good one. Um, you got to sprinkle some spice on
1:17:24
the prelims so people show up, you know. Uh, but yeah, that uh Davy Grant uh
1:17:29
what's he look like lately? There's a couple combos that he's been able to knock people out with that are so uh
1:17:36
sneaky and just like slip through. And we've seen Damon uh De Man Blackshere
1:17:41
start a little slow. So, that could be Davy Grant's opening. You know, getting
1:17:47
started early in that first round, landing those big power punches. He's really stiff. Davy Grant is. So when he
1:17:53
slides in with those combos, like if you're not aware of where he's going next, he get caught trying to counter.
1:18:00
And Dean Blackshere, he's he's he started a little slow in this last one, but he was able to pick up the um the
1:18:07
submission against Cody Gibson and then one before that uh just a month before
1:18:12
that he was able to get a sub or get a decision. So um he's one of those people who are under the radar that I really
1:18:18
like. Like like he's so good on the ground. the man Blackshar is. Um, and he's really good on the feet, too. I'm
1:18:25
just waiting for him to like get a big name. David Grant is kind of like a
1:18:31
veteran, so that might be someone that catapults him towards those rankings.
1:18:36
Um, but yeah, this is going to be a good fight. Definitely a banger of a fight. Yeah, I think it's a great way to open
1:18:42
up the card. I literally almost missed it. Uh the only thing that I've seen
1:18:47
from Black Shear that kind of stands out is he's just been a little bit inconsistent. He'll get like um the the
1:18:54
two big wins like the Kamura and the rear naked choke and then he kind of fell flat with his last one. So
1:19:00
we'll see how that goes. Yeah. Still won it though, but just wasn't like, you know, impressive. It wasn't the the momentum
1:19:07
that I had hoped for. Well, that one I think it it just he lost the first round and then came back
1:19:13
really strong. That's what I remember from that fight, but I might be thinking of another one. Sorry if I didn't do the
1:19:19
research properly. I I watch a lot of fights, but uh I definitely think he could pull this one off, but Davy Grant,
1:19:26
he's dangerous on the feet. So, that's going to be a fun one to watch. And then the rest, um you know, Richi Richi Heis,
1:19:33
that's one of those like toss up in the air a few times, you don't know what you're going to get. Like, uh
1:19:38
you get a different result each time, honestly. Yeah. Like from from what I've seen, I
1:19:44
feel like Richi is going to be running and gunning, maybe try to get a quick taked down, but then back away. And I
1:19:50
think Reebus is going to be chasing her down, trying to look for maybe some some spinning things, trying
1:19:58
to look for a big throw uh from the clinch. Um, yeah, bigger shots, big
1:20:05
heavy shots, but like Reachi moves a lot, so it might be hard for her to really find her and tag her. So, I'm
1:20:12
curious to see what happens, folks. Show I was booked to fight Hebas, it never
1:20:18
happened. I fought Richi. It was a close decision loss. Um, I thought I won, but
1:20:25
never wear those cornrows again. Bless you. But, uh, that that's
1:20:32
definitely one I'm gonna keep my eyes on next week. It's always nice to see how, um, how one of your former opponents are
1:20:38
doing right before a fight, too. All right, that's all we have for this show, guys.
1:20:44
Yeah. Thanks for tuning in. Yeah, I will see you next week. We're
1:20:50
Well, as of today, I'm three weeks out. Woohoo. Yeah. So, we'll see you next week. We
1:20:58
can do our raffle. Uh, still got nobody claiming our previous
1:21:03
one. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We'll do our raffle next week. And then wait, is that three weeks or two weeks?
1:21:09
Three. Oh, three. One, two. Okay, this is next week. I was like, you better start cutting weight, girl. [ __ ]
1:21:17
That's how you know I'm in camp. Like, my brain is not working. She's a little delayed. Words aren't coming out correctly and I
1:21:25
can't calculate. eight weeks, it'll be fine. Luckily, I have a coach to do that for
1:21:32
me. But yes, I heard I'm three weeks out, so that's what I'm that's the story I'm saying.
1:21:37
You're three. Okay. Yay. Good. Good. So, we will see you next week. We'll uh you know, the
1:21:43
the next fight card. Lots of fun fights. And uh yeah, thanks for tuning in.
1:21:51
Sorry. [ __ ] energy is gone. Oh.
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