UFC 309 Predictions with UFC vets Jessica Penne and Angela Hill!
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Nov 15, 2024
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and we're back yo
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yo let's go let's do this so do you
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remember maybe when
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menur Abdul Malik was training at Alliance for a really quick spell I
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don't you don't remind me so the only reason I remember is because one of our
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coaches who was like you know he was kind of like not the head coach so he was still
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trying to like who was it you know who it was who was it got the little y well
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yks are he wasn't really the head coach but he was still trying to like you know
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get people to listen to him and trust them and during inspiring and stuff so
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uh he wasping one of the guys at the gym manur was and and our coach kept yelling
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1732 1732 and because mansur was doing so well against this guy he was sparring
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he just like looks at the coach and goes what the [ __ ] is a seven he so he was so
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frustrated because mansur was like picking up apart so I I always remember
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that when I see him like I wish I was there it was so funny it was really funny but uh yeah
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he's just one of those athletes who just picked it up really quick cuz he started
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with uh with wrestling and you know he he also had like a lot of other martial
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arts that he was doing but when it came to putting everything together and building like a building a resume in MMA
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may he he got to Third Base pretty quickly so now um he uh had his debut on
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the contender series and I was really excited for him because like oh yeah I saw that guy he he trained with us for
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like maybe a a month or two months or something like that we like oh I remember that kid and he came out and
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just put on a show and it was it was like a really wild fight too like the other guy was a good dance partner but
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he put on the show so um fast forward to this fight he's a monster he is he is a
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monster uh in thingy uh dusco he kind of comes from the same background where he
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got his start on Contender series but then he's had a lot of experience in the
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UFC and he's won some law some but wasn't able to you know show that
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specialness that he showed outside of the UF C and so for mansur to come in
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and be able to do that against someone who's like you know kind of similar
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similar uh history but able to you know get that same like magnificent knockout
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that he's able to get outside of the UFC that definitely means uh promising stuff
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for the future for him yeah and I mean it was toric that blitzed in and ended
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up giving Abdul Malik the opportunity to to catch him coming in and um he he did
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his best to survive he started like trying to grab a leg uh but grabbing a
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leg is sometimes not the best thing to do you end up on bottom under you know a
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a powerful guy with powerful punches and he just did he took a lot of damage and
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I don't really think he ever really recovered from getting dropped he was kind of on autopilot he got dropped
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again and then went for the leg again and then finally beltron called it yeah it was um it was a good attempt to get
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things a little crazy but like when you go for a leg attack in an MMA fight
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against someone like that it's always super risky like he hit him with that like look back at it Hammer fist a bunch
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of times like when you look back at it and just like kind of smack right behind
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your butt cheek like dude those things hurt yeah they hurt and when you have both of your hands hands connected to a
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leg because you're trying to do something with that leg you're basically just taking free punches there's nothing
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protecting your face you're taking free punch you can't even shoulder roll when you're when you're on a leg trying to go
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for a hill hook or or a knee bar whatever like you're very vulnerable if
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you're not able to off-balance the guy and man sir he was able to have really good balance while he was reaching back
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and smacking him he was able to use it to get him to finally let go because
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it's like bro you're getting KN you're getting get knocked out he finally let go mener was able to you know scramble
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well get on top and then again when he tried to do that the ref finally seen enough yeah yeah that was it it was a
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good stoppage he gave him ample opportunity to try and do something try and sweep try and get up try and you
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know Mount some sort of offense but he was definitely um digging himself in he was he was it it was cool to see um him
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do that to someone like disco he's the guy's tough you know he doesn't go away easy when he loses and then he's won a
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few too so it it's really interesting to see what um Miner is going to do in the
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future I'm excited to see and he's with the good team um I he might possibly be
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Strickland's new best friend he shouted him out in in the post fight we'll see
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how long that lasts oh no I wish them the best poor Chris
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CIS yeah so I'm excited to see what's next for him he's in he's at a good gym
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um he's he has a good training Partners people that are going to push him so
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yeah he's he's definitely in the right spot to really tap into his full
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potential so that's somebody to watch in the future for sure um another really good one was
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scrogin and zeleski Dos Santos Santos was originally slated to take on our boy
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Doby uh Doby ended up pulling out so scrogin took this on extremely short
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notice and that was you know very bold of him and I and I think when I was talking earlier this was kind of one of those things where you really have to
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weigh out what is best for you not try and be in favor of the company because
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this was a really tough opponent to take on such short notice it a tough opponent to take if you have a full Camp yeah was
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was this his debut or am I thinking of somewhere else no it's not his
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okay um but you know he ended up getting um do Santos came out really hot and it
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just took um just a little over a minute to get a ko. he hit with a hard combo right-handed land hard and then um
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scogan just really couldn't recover yeah it's uh Skin's debut yes yeah sorry I
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thought we were talking about disant yeah no I was just uh trying to figure out where he came from yeah it was a it
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was a fun um fight for a second he he looked a little stiff on the feet as
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scroggin did so you know it could always be like the Jitters it could be just
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lack of a fight camp or maybe that's just the way he fights but you could tell that he was um he was getting
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backed up and the closer he got to the fence the more he was in that danger
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zone so as soon as he had nowhere to back up you know nowhere to get his head
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out of the way that's when um dos Santos was able to land that little like low
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high one two and really just put him on his feet or put him on his knees yeah
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yeah it was a nasty one um I like his little Capa thing too his little Capa
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celebration yeah it's fun he's a fun one to watch and in the fight after the
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fight um I I hope they end up rescheduling him and Doby I think that was going to be a really good one Doby
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is one of those guys where he'll he'll be out of the fight for a little bit and then he comes back and he beats like
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these really really tough opponents yeah and Doby has a chin on him too he cuts a lot of weight but uh I've never seen him
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go down with a from a punch like that like if he gets rocked he's he's usually
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going to recover a little bit and then come back and a lot of times he comes back and wins um but I was thinking
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maybe part of that was to do with a hard weight cut because he did Miss weight and it was short notice so he probably
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did try to make that weight and at a certain point just had to stop otherwise
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he wasn't going to make it to the to the cage anyway but whenever someone goes down fast like that really hard like
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that you always think that the weight cut had something to do with it yeah it's it was a tough one again it was um
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it's one of those things where you really have to weigh the the pros and the cons of taking that
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fight he just put his body through H and now he has another loss on his record and it was um but I understand it's his
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opportunity to get in there's a lot of people that that is their way in this is
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still one of the biggest ways to get into the UFC is taking short notice fights just saying yes and getting in
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the door and you're guaranteed another fight after that so after this one you know rest up heal your head take a
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little bit of time off just to make sure that your body's healed and then you know have a full camp and then you know
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try and show out and try to impress the big guys yeah he's his foot's in the door like you said so that should be um
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you know the light at the end of the tunnel for him um and then another
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cool finish or a couple of cool finishes we had Tran Gore submit Anthony troli
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man he's had a rough one one yeah he's had a rough one couple of
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well I guess it was just Shar was the other one but um yeah also having fights
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get cancelled on him too uh his last fight was the knock out from Sher Putin
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which he took on like two days notice flying to where was it Dubai or Abu Dhabi yeah so he was CRA two days on the
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plane trying to cut weight there ended up getting knocked out um probably felt pretty good about this one I felt like
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he had a full fight camp for this fight um and then came in and got submitted in
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the first round first it was a really interesting strategy to go
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for the guillotine on somebody who is so much taller it was it was just an interesting
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strategy but you know he got he got a hold of it heeld on to it and he ended up getting that submission so yeah well
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he put his head there yeah you know he put it he put it in the spot where you
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people it's like it's strange to knee someone in the head when they bend
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over because he's talls like n his head was there his head was in the line of
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attack um and the other guy that he got that nasty submission off of he was
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pretty tall and linky too um what was his name
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uh uh fem whatever uh
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Dobson no the other guy that tran Gore got the um Josh friend oh that nasty ye
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on um he was pretty tall too so this is just his move like this is his nasty
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move that he just like snatches onto a neck and just rips
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him apart cuz that one was really gross like they he was have you seen that one
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no he was basically dragging him like a dead body behind him it was really gross
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I I kind of want to show it to you because it's
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disturbing um but one funny thing that happened uh afterwards after he got this
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uh crazy Guillotine submission um he was saying on on his postf fight speech like
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oh you guys got to put some respect on my name like people have to start taking me seriously youall need to start like
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you know blah blah blah and it sounded like he you couldn't tell if he was mad at the commentators or the matchmakers
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or the fans or the other people in his weight class but he just seemed that like he had a chip on his
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shoulder and he confirmed that in the press
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conference oh okay first let me show you this look at this [ __ ] oh that's nasty
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poor Fram it was so nasty but yeah he put his he put his head in the position
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he went for that single leg he just framed got on top of it snatch the neck
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up he likes the no arm Guillotines that's like his thing his go-to those are good ones too you don't want to mess
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with the arm yeah all this adjusting you have to do yeah you got to go to your back usually it's it's not it's not as
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fun I I really like the power Guillotine like the one that um uh your boy jordane
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hit that's one of my favorite ones to do no harm yeah because you really can
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cinch in and get on top of them and even if they're able to finish the Tak down you still have a really nice bite you
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don't have to worry about them passing that's one of my favorite ones but his he just gets that elbow high he gets on
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top or he gets underneath the neck and he really like puts his shoulder and weight on top but ahead and just
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squeezes you know he has to have a crazy squeeze to be able to pick up friend like that and same thing with choli
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who's a big ass guy was just able to wrench the neck yeah where the the head
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goes the body follows yeah but uh he was actually a little pissed off at uh
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Michael bisbing because as soon as he shot in on a Tak down bisbing was saying
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oh uh I don't think it's a good idea for him to go to the ground with choli and I think and then the time
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before he bisbing I guess or I don't know if it was bisbing but I think it was bisbing he was commenting on the
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guillotine just being like a a power move it there was no technique it was
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all strength well it worked um so take that to the bank it's it's hard it it's
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hard to not take things personal but it's something
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that everyone Fighters non-fighters need to understand is that it's it's not
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personal people are going to say their opinions and sometimes it's it's none of your business what they think and it
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doesn't do you any good to hear it and I understand he has you know a very big voice a big platform I understand it's
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hard to ignore but very loud very loud very loud um but it you just can't take
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these things personal um some people like we had uh raky who had a a big
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fight uh sorry a big knockout on this card he also has a chip on his shoulder and he got emotional and you know his
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postf fight speech it's just um you can't take things personal you can't let
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things get to you just got to stay focused on the goal keep doing what you're doing and people will eventually
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take notice and and respect but sometimes it takes just a little bit longer than a fighter would like yeah
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and I think he kind of went back and forth with it like he started saying one thing about how he was being
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disrespected disrespected but then he would go back and say well eventually you guys won't be able to disrespect me
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you're going to have to take notice so it's it it was almost like he's just going through all the emotions in his
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head very out loud in public and then in the press conference but uh he also said
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that he respects him a lot and he knows that he hasn't done a lot in the MMA world yet but his plan is to do so much
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that he gains the respect of people like Michael bising and that's the right mindset I think that's a very mature way
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to address it where you still want to say your peace like you're like like
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I'mma talk my [ __ ] I'm still gonna talk my [ __ ] but
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you don't have to tell me what to think about the [ __ ] that I'm talking I already
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know I already know this is a pointless Endeavor I like that he just like worked through it all by himself
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yes he has a good head on his shoulders it he's one to watch he just
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he's just got to keep winning and on it's it's frustrating though I understand I understand you want the the
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acknowledgement you want the you know the money the you know whatever it is
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the prestige um and when it doesn't come as fast as you think it's it's deserved I understand how it's frustrating yeah
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yeah he he definitely seems like he has a good head on on his shoulders he made some good adjustments with his mental
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with like the skills that he decided to start or focusing on and just really
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started paying attention to all the things that you need to pay attention to uh as an athlete like not just the
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mental side but like also the physical just making sure he's taking care of himself and all that so I'm excited for
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Tran gour too because he's one of those people where I could have sworn he had way more fights than he does yeah
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and I could I think it's just because I saw him on tough so I'm like okay that's why I feel like he's been a seven-year
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veteran in the UFC but he's only six and two yeah he's just getting started in this sport that's wild just getting
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started as well he's doing very well for himself uh how did you like your boy uh Radke's fight man radkey is a power
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house he started off with a nice you know um one two three and his his hook
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lands so heavy and he you know got into this
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flurry of punches um with uh selberg with his back to the cage and was just
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unrelenting and ended up getting him down I I think it was a good stoppage you were saying earlier that you thought maybe it was a little bit early right I
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thought it was a little early and the reason I thought a lot of times it depends on when the referee jumps in
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whether people are going to have an issue with it or not but it felt like the referee jumped in right as he was
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stepping back to regroup like he was on his way to hit a reset and the referee
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jumped in yeah I I understand that I just thought he
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took too many unanswered punches I mean he was he was trying to block but I felt
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like it was just going downhill from there it was but how many times have we seen people fight back how many times
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have we seen people like get that Hill marry or Circle or recover and be able to get back into the fight so I don't
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think that he was super upset about it but I definitely felt like they could
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have let it go on a little longer just to make sure okay he's done done because it looked like he was like he was kind
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of on the floor or like maybe like he hit one knee or something but he was
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bouncing backwards like he was on his toes when the referee jumped in which is usually like a sign that the person's
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okay when they're like bouncing and on their toes yeah it's just it's just one
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of those things I I think that the ref had a front row view of what was going
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on and I think that he just you know he made the call wanted to protect uh ssel
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burger from any further damage yeah what was it siml burger siml siml burger siml
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burger I call it smells Burger May the smells Burger I be that
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annoying kid in his ele school like what are you eating smells Burger smells like
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a burger does it smell good
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yeah who farted must have been smells
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Burger I bet it was fun growing up with that last name oh man bet he was super
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popular uh how uh you were mentioned in rad Key's uh postf fight speech how awkward
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was it it was you know what he was just he was having a moment he was also working through all of his thoughts and
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emotions it was a full spectrum it was it was all of
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them it's hard it's a really it's it's hard to always
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know what to say in those moments and he just he was you know letting it all out
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he has no regret no he doesn't he he would have that tattoo no no regrets you
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know yes he just like that's the that's the tattoo I wanted and I'm sticking with it
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dude like the way that he goes from I don't know asking for a bonus to
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cussing out the people that give you the bonus to [ __ ] on everyone that he's
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about to fight that he hasn't fought yet to crying about his family supporting him like that was every different type
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of postf fight speech in one we got all of it we got everyone he delivered all
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of it yeah like five different [Laughter]
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movies it makes me wonder like what would it have sounded like if the fight
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had gone on longer like would we have had more feelings more emotions would he
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have just like run himself dry like I'm wondering maybe he didn't get enough of
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his his the the chip on his shoulder out in that fight it didn't last long enough so he just you know had to unpack a lot
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exactly CU he didn't get he wasn't allowed to knock him out if he had just let him knock him out he would have been
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like thank you everyone I love my family and my wife I hope you all have a blessed day and then walk out of there
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that's what he would have done if if the ref hadn't jumped in too soon but now he has blue balls ah knockout blue balls
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nothing worse than that it's the worst thought of my whole career I've
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never got a knockout oh no I know oh I know this must be so painful it's a
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little in your girl balls it is your little it is your little fighter over every day
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a that sucks well you can knock someone out of gem that'll make me feel better
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just film it and post it and then everyone will know what happen such a dick move I know it's the worst the gym
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is supposed to be a safe space hey no one told that to Sean Strickland
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nope no safe spaces no safe househ nope he didn't grow up with them so he
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doesn't give them oh no this is what happens protect your
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children people I protect them just want to hug them give give them safe
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spaces H well I mean we hit everything I think we kind of had a extra long um uh
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first part of the thing but next week what do we have
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J what do we have we have UFC 309 in Madison s
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garden oh that's what it's going to sound like I know it's going to be insane in that
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place we have Jon Jones taking on Stipe miic uh Charles Olivera and Michael
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Chandler in the come event and then um following up we have Bo nickel and Paul
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Craig among others so the Chandler ala fight is still on
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yes is still on okay yeah there were rumors that they were looking for a
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replacement oh don't do that don't do that we've been through enough ah yeah it's uh it's scary but
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hopefully all the fight are fine and we'll make it through there do you have
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P picks for the at least the first three
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yeah I got Jones olera bonel and how Let's uh let's do our dual bits picks
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all right dual bits picks you get them first I got Jon Jones by KO I'm not happy about it I don't want that to
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happen but that's what I think's going to happen um I got Charles olera buy submission and I got Bo nickel KO okay I
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kind of have the same thing well I have bone nickel by submission actually no no
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it would probably be a k yeah I kind of have the same pics hey yeah let's go
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let's go so there's some other fights on this card that we can kind of look at
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I'm really excited about karini Silva she's she's a really dope flyweight Prospect um she is coming off of a
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decision win against Aran lipsky and yeah I I feel like she's
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going to be the next big thing we've seen her get a lot of submissions in the flyweight division um she's she's
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creeping up there and then this fight is definitely going to put her um like
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really close to that title shot because uh viven was pretty close to getting the
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title as well yeah I feel like Vivan roio I think that um she's really solid
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really solid fighter but I feel like um karini Silva is going to outpace her
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just out out um volume her yeah and just um give her a really hard time yeah so
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I'm excited about that one I also love her hair she has the only other female
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afro in the UFC and I love it because of
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that so go all the reason to for her yeah that's a who what other reasons do
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you need I mean she's a finisher but like it's like me when I watch Like team
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sports I'll go for like the mascot that I like you know or or if there's you
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know a really cool player on the team I'll just be like all right that's my team that's are you a are you a big fan
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of the uh WNBA team that's in Washington
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DC can't say that I am they or no no no it's the um the New York WNBA team they
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have the best mascot it's like a a elephant with eyelashes
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oh sign me up yeah I'll find a picture of her
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um but yeah I'm excited about that fight and who else do we have on that
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card oh we have Jim Miller taking on Damon Jackson o uh we have Chris Weidman he's
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a home kind of guy's taking on Eric Anders uh make sure to catch our interview with
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him we have it in uh the archives on our YouTube channel which you guys are watching on right now or on spotifi oh
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my gosh look at her I love her oh that's the best we have Jonathan
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Martinez taking on Marcus McGee oh there's some really good fights on this card Marcus McGee is another
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fighter I'm really excited about and it makes me sad because Jonathan Martinez is also a fighter I'm really excited
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about so it it's kind of sad when the prospects finally have to meet each
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other do you know what I just realized we are missing out we were supposed to have Anthony Smith and Dominic Reyes on
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this card we were supposed to but it was cancelled oh when did that happen I
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don't know I didn't even know about it but now I'm kind of bummed yeah I wish I had never known I know right I wonder
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why that happened I'm thinking it was Dominic Rees he gets injured a lot yeah he's had
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a rough one he finally uh got back into wind column though so it's it's kind of
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it sucks that he didn't get to get on this card um but yeah Marcus McGee is
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someone I'm really excited about Mickey Gul is fighting again um our friend Bassel Haz basil basil basil Hayden Fez
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and then uh we have Eduardo Mora moving up to her right good for her she does
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not need to be cutting that much weight versus Veronica Hardy who you got for that one I got Veronica Hardy yeah me
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too me too it just seems like a tough skill matchup for someone who's so
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heavily stacked in one area like eduarda she could show up you know and she'll
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probably have a lot more steam without cutting that much weight she's a big girl like I remember when I saw her
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um Brazil card she was bigger than Jenna I was just oh my God she was she was it was
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her fight week or our fight week she was getting ready for her straw weight fight
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which she did not make weight for and legit when I met her that Tuesday she
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was bigger than our friend Jenna Bishop who fights at flyweight who was not at
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fight week she was not so um yeah we'll see
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we'll see what happens with that but uh she's definitely a big girl and she might be able to bring it to Hardy with
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her uh like Jiu-Jitsu pedigree but I think Hardy's going to be able to
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nullify her she just has more tools yeah and Mora still she's one of those um you
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know Contender series uh people that got onto the show from winning on the
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contender series and I just don't think her game is well-rounded enough for to
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be there not that she doesn't not that she can't win not that she doesn't deserve it it's just it's a really tough
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place to learn as you're going and to like obtain those skills you want them
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you already want those skills and of course you're sharpen them always and you're always adding to your tool belt
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but it's just it's hard because she's just so grappling
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dominant yeah and uh you can tell that everything is just set up to get her
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there but she doesn't look super comfortable on the feet yet she did land
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some nasty elbows on poor Cano um with the ground and bound so we know that she
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can do damage if she's able to get to a control position and get on top and we know she can submit we know she can hurt
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so it's going to be exciting when to open up the card I'm I wonder if New York's going to play it cool or if
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they're all going to show up for the first fight I I don't know I know right cuz
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Madison Square Garden so it's like they might try to play it cool but it's
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Madison Square Garden I know and these are the early prelims early prelim prelims and then we have the main card
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so that's a long night that's like 10 hours of fights there's so many fights on here that's a long 15 fights on
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they're trying to make it worth that $90 that they just bumped it up to for a pay-per-view oh my God I can't believe
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it I can't believe it well I'm excited about next week's card unfortunately I
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won't be able to be there in person but I already got to see Jen
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Jones so I got to poke him oh just get some of
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that great off of him yeah yeah he like sprinkles some just a little bit you can
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spare little shoulder flake little flake off the elbow so I can rub it onto mine
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get that sharpness back from a 12 sixes that are coming out soon uh well this
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