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UFC 306 Prelim Bangers!
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Nov 6, 2024
We had to double back and talk about some of the crazy undercard fights that went down at UFC Noche. We also discuss odd referee moments, questionable judging, the rare double female crotch shot, ungrateful mma kids not knowing how good they got it, and if getting down makes you fight better. Brought to you by Duelbits. Wanna see this vid as soon as we publish it? Get first dibs on commenting and being noticed? Help us buy a new couch with a nice leg view? Join us!! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1FaPU4wQCG9RdbNlMBI-fA/join 00:40 Rodriguez vs Osbourne robbery check. 07:31 Did the drama before the fight affect Ode’s performance? 14:28 Zellhuber vs Ribovics, FoTN banger! 21:31 Props to Souza, our girl Yasmine took a tough L but she was looking real good beforehand. We breakdown the female groin shot. 26:40 We got some shade for talking about men fighting because we’re women 31:23 Ketlin Souza might get a big name next. 33:38 Yasmin may benefit from fighting in 2 weight classes 38:00 look at us caring about people I our weightclass #MMaAunties 43:14 Chiweewee got the W. His room bout to be extra dirty. 50:38 Fan questions! Takedown D vs Grappling D whatever that means. 55:30 How to deal with an opponent going backwards? 59:46 Was Shevchenko a black widow in a former life?
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recording we recording with our knees in action oh
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you missed him I know so close yes so
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far little KNE show there H man uh you know who was doing a good knee
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show actually I don't know nobody really nobody really landed any knes I was trying to think I'm like going through
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my head I do want to discuss the fight on
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the prelims that people are saying was a robbery which one H I wouldn't say
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robbery but the scoring was a little unfair uh the OD Osborne versus
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Rodriguez fight I thought Rodriguez won two rounds to one I thought so too and
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um but when I when I rewatched it the third round was a lot closer than I
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remember the thing that I'm pissed about is the 108 round that Adelaide bird and
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I forget who else it was but I always I'm just like men as soon as I hear
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Adelaide bird or some other like you know woman in a position where you don't usually have women messing up then I get
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extra mad yeah we're a little bit harder on women than we are on because you know we them to a higher
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standard we have a little bit more expectation out of them because we know how amazing they can be exactly we the
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the ceiling is so high and you're making it harder for us to Buster it gosh darn it yeah but uh they it was her and
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another judge scored 108 on round two which is crazy
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because that was Ron McCarthy Ron McCarthy yeah he's been he's not on my
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list but I think he's on some people's he definitely is uh but the ode Osborne
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he got a big knockdown in the first round almost finished the guy Rodriguez
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and then Rodriguez was able to get back on top but there was still half round that he was fighting for his life yeah
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how does that not get a 108 in Rodriguez's grapple Fest where ode was
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able to at least get back on top and it's started with him jumping for a
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submission how is that a 108 round and his first round is not a 108 round no
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clue it's really odd to me it makes no sense how can you do that for one and not the other it just doesn't make sense
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it's like they're going for time controlling as the 108 margin as opposed
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to what actually happened in that time there was there was no real damage accumulated while he was in those dominant position he had a really sick
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body lock that oday could not get out of but the troll does not equal an a 10
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eight round yeah she's like oh that body lock looks like it's hurting his ribs he's about to tap it's really unpleasant
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and uncomfortable yeah it's uncomfortable but he was not ready to give up he was tired but tired doesn't
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give you the 108 being unable to fight back being helpless that's what gives you a 10 eight and I don't see how they
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one exists in the other one doesn't I I completely agree with you that's yeah so
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I think that's why there were a lot of people calling for robbery because the third round was
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actually really close but I'm I'm kind of on the same page with you I felt like Rodriguez finished round stronger and he
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had more big moments in that round like oday looked sharp in the first like
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minute and a half he seemed like he was Landing like leg kicks and and punches
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and looking a little a little cleaner but then Rodriguez started to pull ahead
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he started Landing more punches sling more a little more power he got that big takedown at the end and just finished on
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top and did a good performance of hey if this fight were to keep going on I'd win
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the fight so I felt like that was enough to get him that round even though it was actually really close it was a
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competitive fight I I really wish that oday had listened to his Corner when they gave him instruction do not go to
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the ground don't press the taked down just keep it striking that's where he did the damage in the first round that
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led to him getting to the ground but anytime he was on the ground he was getting defended reversed or you know
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put on his like put on the defense uh so it would have been really nice if he had
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listened to his Corner that's that's where they're there for they were seeing the key to Victory the path and he did
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not listen and he kept forcing that takedown which he did land you know a taked down or two but still it didn't
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score anything because it was it was countered and he was put into bad positions off of them so I would have I
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would have liked to have seen that I think that would have been a little bit more uh a little bit better of a decision yeah it's it's kind of tough
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when you're running on fumes and it just seems like oh every time I throw something and I miss I feel like my
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arm's going to fall off he probably just felt like if he could get on top and
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just sit on top of him and run the clock out and get get a little breath back then that would have been the easier
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route but you know your coaches know you they know the way the fight has gone
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already he already wasted a lot of energy on the ground he already got to these good positions and then lost it
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because the guy was just a little more scrambly he was just reacting a little faster and oday was in some really good
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positions and not able to finish which is like man if if like uh I mean the reason it took me so long to get a
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submission in the UFC is because any time I would really go for a submission I'd be so gassed afterwards just your
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arms are dead if if you're going for a guillotine your legs are dead if you're going for a triangle like there was a a
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fight in Invicta that you cornered me for where I had a I think it was my title defense and I had the girl in a
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triangle for the whole first round and when I stood up I was like
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whoa I couldn't feel my legs and you're squeezing so hard and you're trying to get that finish and if you don't have
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the technique perfect then people are going to survive and they're going to find Space to bleed breathe and get
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blood and he found just a little bit of space because you can see he was almost out when he finally pulled himself out
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of that triangle yeah he looked like he was really trying to catch his breath he was trying to compose himself yes he did
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and I don't think that oday saw that that opportunity that he could have capitalized on I know he's going to look
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at that tape and just be like there's a really awesome way to cinch up a triangle and it works very well in
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MMA when you have the triangle so you saw od's hips were very Square when you're trying to finish the triangle so
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you have a bigger triangle if you cut an angle by grabbing underneath the arm or grabbing underneath the leg it really
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like tightens it it cinches it up it really cuts off the kateed in a nice way
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yeah uh it's a nice compression a nice choke and it just really solidifies the finish so um I would love to do a
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breakdown of that yeah and you saying he could go for the arm too right yeah yeah
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yeah just go for the arm it just it puts you perpendicular instead of parallel with him so it's it's a really nice way
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to finish especially for MMA yeah I like that we will break that down later yes
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so make sure to tune in um the crazy thing about that fight too was that
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there was a lot of drama in the press conference did you see that I saw but I didn't understand it I didn't either I
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think there was a lot Lost in Translation but basically from what I
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saw is that they both trained together okay and they train at different gyms
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but I think they sparred each other at some point a few times and the vibe that
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I got from that was that OD day got the better of him but oday doesn't have the
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following that Rodriguez does and that's from you know he has an interesting look
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he has his he has a big smile he has this crazy story where he came up from nothing so
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he was able to like get a lot of attention and you know the way he fights
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too he's been getting a lot of wins so I think there might have been a little drama there just because maybe oday got
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the better of him in training and now he sees this guy getting all this attention getting all these accolades and he's
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been fighting the best of the best and win or lose hasn't been getting that same uh push so I think there was a
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little drama there and even though he wasn't disrespectful he he kind of he kind of talked out the side of his mouth
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a little bit and the Rodriguez guy was having none of it he didn't even wait to hear the translation of what Osborne was
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saying he was just going off and calling him AA and chicken toes and dropping all
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these like you you know little cuts and stuff and I think having all that drama
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before a fight can really fog the way that you fight it'll zap you that kind
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of that kind of energy on top of how stressful and overstimulated a person is
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going into fight that completely depletes your Energy System your nervous
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system and I mean I I understand the want and the desire to Hype it hype it
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and promote a fight but there are more pressing things to to deal with rather
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than depleting your own energy you have to be really careful where you're expending your energy like don't spend
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so much time like talking [ __ ] with people on online and no stay off ofl
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woring about all of these things like it's really but it's really easy to get distracted especially when you're a
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younger fighter you're coming up you see you know the Pinnacle you see where you want to be and you're not quite sure how
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to get there so you try different paths and sometimes that can be you know promoting a fight aggressively
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recklessly it's just um you know it's different for for everybody but I think that people really do need to be mindful
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of of where they put their energy yeah I think and I think for someone like uh Osborne who's just the nicest person
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very respectful didn't curse once when he was doing his uh crap talk I think it
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was probably more energy for him than for someone who says paa with every you
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know with every other because it's not like who he authentically is yeah yeah
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you got to stick to who you are yeah so it looked like he was making some rash decisions in there and maybe it was
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because he wasn't fully mentally there um because it looked like he could have
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won that fight with all those positions that he was able to get uh just you know
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work on work on that side because it's a real thing like your your brain can sabotage you it can push you over the
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edge it's so powerful what the mental side does for you and people like uh
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like uh Sean Brady you've seen everything they say in their press conferences everything they say in their
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interviews are very um intentional because they're putting themselves in
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that right mindset that they need to be in to win and when I was hearing
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Osborne's you know rebuttal I was just like man that's not him that's not him I
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have a bad feeling about that but he'll figure it out you know he's a smart kid and he's had a lot of experience in
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there so I know B bounce back and Rodriguez man what a dog that guy is
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like he was in some tough positions and he was just able to find a way out of it and just grind find out where he was
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winning like he adaptability again he was able to figure out a position and I
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don't know if body triangles are his thing but the fact that he just held on to it for as long as he could to zap the
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energy out of uh Osborne the commentary team is like we've never seen this before and it's like he probably has
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never done this before he just Osborne just has a small waist and he's
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controlling him it and he's just in there and he's like hey I'm going to stay here the rest of the round it was a
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good call he he was able to uh adapt on the fly yeah I think uh Rodriguez encapsulated the the Mexican Fighting
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spirit that they were looking for in noce do you know what I'm saying um I think I did like his modified body
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triangle you know it was instead of behind the hamstring on the opposite
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side of the hip it was like intertwined it was it was interlaced within the hip so he was really really tight and he
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wasn't fully completely on his back it was kind of off to a side so it was an interesting body lock I'm kind of interested to you know play around yeah
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just let's see the legitimacy in it let's see let's see how it works because it was very effective in that night yeah
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I think I think the weirdest part about it was that he didn't let it go once he got to mount and I'm like huh maybe that
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maybe there's a a strategy there because usually you get to Mount you let it go
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you relieve some pressure on your knees but also you're able to float better and not get spun out on but he did a good
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job of keeping the back for most of the round until that last 20 seconds where his legs must have just been Zapped from
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holding that triangle yeah he was a little bit too deep when when somebody switches from from the back to Mound you
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can still keep your legs crossed but it's a little bit looser but he stayed with that that deep cross in the legs
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and that kind of uh it hindered his Mobility yeah yeah and Osborne was so
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close to getting out oh if he could have no I was I was I felt for him I was
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frustrated for him if he had just brought that arm in and then got the the underhook he could have turned his body
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or if he had just moved his hips and given a little bit more you know room for his arm to get in um it's it's
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definitely a lesson learned something that he can really take from and work on after this fight for sure for sure it
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was a it was a really good scrap and then um what else uh did we not talk
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about yet there was another fight on zher yes and
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riic yes the Mexican and the Argentinian yes
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that fight was pretty nuts I think that got fight of the night no it did as it should have it did that was a great
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fight it was so crazy yeah and I think that they you know when the matchmakers
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made this fight like when they were making every fight I think they just saw like striking Wars you know what I'm
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saying a lot of these fights were just set up to be bangers and and a lot of them were um and I think that that's
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what they saw in this matchup and it and it definitely delivered no it was great uh it was interesting because in the
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beginning uh it looked like zel Huber was just finding his range perfectly
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able to pick apart able to stay long um his kicks were Landing really nice too
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like his head kicks his body kicks he's one of those Strikers who can step
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backwards and throw a kick at the same time like that's so hard to teach people to do so his footwork was really nice it
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was very Muay Tha I really liked it and then uh Rebo vix he just was having none
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of it he was just getting in the pocket zipping his head around like the thing
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he he kind of reminded me of um Me Myself and Irene only a good version you
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know what I'm talking about where uh um Jim Carrey he's like about to fight the
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guy and he's like like that's what it looked like once he got in the pocket but it was a
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good version of it where he was able to get in slip out of the way and then land
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something slip land slip land and then spinning back fist out of nowhere like
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it was really interesting to watch him play with danger like that because he
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would just get in the pocket and boom boom boom and get out yeah his head movement was what I was in most
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admiration of in this fight fight um his punches came from kind of funky angles he never really like brought his elbows
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up or you know really extended his punches fully why why energy he doesn't
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need to but I was just so impressed how he would throw out a punch he would move
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his head out he would capitalize move out of the way capitalize again like his his boxing his head workor his spatial
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awareness was just so impressive it was so much fun to watch yeah it was like a one of those like fighter jets what do
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you call it Tie fighters in uh Star Wars the little planes and there's the big
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one the big mother ship and they're like going through like the going
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through the tight hole and zipping out that star what was that thing called yes
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that's what it that's what I'm talking about that's what it looked like when he was zipping around uh um zel hu's long
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Limbs and getting out of the way of his Straits and stuff but uh he was getting landed on and then in that third round I
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thought that zel Herbert was like sealing the deal I was like oh man he just changed the tides but no but no
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uhuh he said no sir yeah um That Elbow
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kind of started it the elbow that zel Hooper landed I feel like he had like an Ortega moment re vix did he was like oh
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[ __ ] I'm losing all right and then landed a 100 punches in like 2 minutes
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just unrelenting completely unrelenting gave no space um and I mean zeler did his
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diligence he was moving really well just trying to not be a sitting Target so
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that was impressive when he was in really deep water that he kept trying to survive and kept trying to you know stay
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in the fight yeah yeah they were saying the commentary was saying that zel hubber does an hour Shadow Boxing after
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training every day and I mean I think that's that showed in the way
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that he was able to do all this movement while concuss like I don't think he
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remembers doing half of that movement but he was getting out of the way surviving you know that's just that
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mental uh those those uh what do you call those reps that he was doing that's
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just muscle memory yeah that's what you want when your body goes into autopilot when you're in deep water when you're in a bad situation and your body just kind
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of Tak over for you that's that's what you hope that you have trained into your
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muscle memory yeah that's that's what happens with forga when he gets dropped and then wakes up with the guy in his
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triangle oh how'd you get here oh great turn the
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angle yeah so uh this guy he was able to survive for a second I thought he was
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going to pull the uh Pat Berry Czech condo Czech Congo finish yeah well he
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wasn't he he got dropped and I'm like oh man but then he started throwing hooks a
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couple of them landed pretty heavy against the fence but um I keep forgetting his name REO vix was was good
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his his chin was good uh the elbow didn't affect him too much after that big flurry and he was able to seal the
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deal and get the win and we talked a little bit of mess about Herb Dean but I
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feel like we should give a little appreciation where it's due Herzog was
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on top of that fight making sure that there weren't any eye pokes happening
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and then when it happened he was like that's on you I told you like he's been
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no he was warning him the whole fight because he was reaching reaching reaching reaching with his long Limbs
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and his long fingers and eventually you know it it did what we thought it would
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you think uh Jon Jones was in the first road like yes yes my he said talk to me after
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the fight I'll help you I'll show you how to hide it I'll just correct it just a little just a little bit of tweaking
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and you're there you got to wait until the font punch is fully extended to flick it out you
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know just uh we'll work on that we'll work on that for next time I got you yeah but no I love herzog's raffing
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during that and uh I don't know I think uh zel Hooper might have been a little distracted after you got yelled at and
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got clocked right over the top I if if you're doing doing something kind of
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subconsciously or you're not fully aware of it and then you're being um warned
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about it it does take you a second you're like oh wait am I doing it am I doing it I don't want to do it I don't want to get in trouble I don't want to
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get you know a point taken away kind of thing so I think it there is something to that where it can kind of take you
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out of space for for a minute but you know it's just it's something
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that you need to train yourself not to do yeah yeah it's so easy to just lose focus for half a second and that's all
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it takes to get clocked over the head um but another fight where I feel like
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maybe maybe a foul distracted them was our girl Yas mean and her they both
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fouled each other though they both fouled each other F each other they were even and he he even said it to them too he's like all right you got one you got
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one no more I love it he was on a roll last night yes yes he was but uh yeah I
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just I just feel horrible for her that was such a nasty uh drop and then
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submission kudos to um what's her
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name my God I was trying to look it up before I got to that part of the sentence oh my goodness oh we're
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horrible I'm just as bad hold on we're so bad hold on I'm almost there oh don't
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lose us guys I'm sorry here show some leg show some leg show some leg hurry
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hurry before they before they click away s Jesus sorry guys oh my God you know what
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we're human we're not perfect I'm sorry I didn't think she was going to work there's just so many things to talk
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about there's so many topics so many people one thing that the broadcast team
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brought up is that they think females should be wearing cups do they yes they
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think that we should have some sort of crotch protection so uh our friend Corey told
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me about an incident I won't say who but a teammate of hers I won't tell
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anyone just tell me I'll tell you we we'll say it in the exclusive
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exclusive but a teammate of hers actually had their uh little little man split no and had to
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get it stitched in a fight in ER after the fight yeah oh shoot yeah shoot so I
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didn't even know this was this is like a new fear unlocked for me I didn't know was possible because I am one of the
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biggest naysayers of the female groin shot I'm just that didn't hurt I'm like it's not going to be the same at least
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as a male groin shot and I feel like if it was there would definitely be a
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reason for like a stop stop but I feel like the female groin shot is like getting flicked in the nipple or
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something like it hurts a lot but it's not going to shut down your your organs
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and that's kind of what a Mel groin shot does but they both both got hit in the groin and it looked like it hurt both of
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them and they had a second um but yes means was one of her last seconds yeah
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in there they they each only took about like 30 seconds off if that it was like they shook it off pretty well I think
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they were just maybe surprised and had never experienced that yeah wait a
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minute it's the thing yeah and when you're in fight Camp you're probably not getting it in a lot so you know that
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thing's even extra tend Angela I'm just guessing I don't know
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she hasn't told me about well they they say for for males you're supposed to
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abstain and then they said for females it actually helps increase your testosterone yeah okay yeah I uh did I
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ever tell you about my blue ball Theory no like uh so is like female blue
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so you get close and then you don't do the final moment curving and I feel like
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it makes you even more like sure angry I think that's the same
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with men too like you want to take it out on someone yeah I could see that yeah like how dare you yeah how dare you
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finish the audacity and then you got and finish the girl that you're fighting so maybe that's what happened
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well I mean next fight Camp I think that's a theory to test hey let me know how that goes document it take notes
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Journal hey you're fighting before me you should give it a try it actually I actually did it once
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and I think it worked I I think I think it was one of my uh finished fights I already run pretty angry for I
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forget which one it was but I'm pretty I'm pretty sure I had a pretty bombass performance when I did it I think for
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everybody's safety I should not do that oh God we'd all die yeah or get humped
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I'm not sure which one that the weight cut party would be
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interesting you wouldn't have to worry about the weight cut party I think it's just leading up to that I'm I'd be too
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depleted during the weight cut to to do anything to just like dry hump yeah exact like you'd have to do it for
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me just jump up and down no I'm just taking it back this is grappling this is we're just grappling
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right now no I've been working on staying on the back the whole time uh but uh oh my God anyway back to
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the fight um uh they're never going to take us seriously look what you they never going to I'm sorry people just
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don't respect we take away the yams and then look what you put out there look what you did this is why no
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one wants to listen to women we are the adelade birds of podcasting yo did you see no did you
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see somebody commented on one of our videos and they
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said yes they did and they said uh this is from
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long mend it was in one of our that's his handle he said long longu may vid
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Vin okay that's the thing okay okay anyways this person on Instagram said
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two girls chatting about male Fighters dot dot dot it's just not credible dot
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dot dot I'm just saying dot dot dot I'm not saying that they say anything wrong
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but the two girls LOL yo okay first of all if you're going to say something if
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you're going to talk [ __ ] say with your chest you don't have to dot dot dot and put an LOL at the end of it yeah crying
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face laughing crying face get get the [ __ ] out of here just say it or move on say it yeah you spent all that time
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writing out the paragraph he probably retyped it a few times too oh yeah I bet there's like an edited next to it for
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sure and no one liked it because they love us they love us and
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we're very likable yeah and the thing is we have a lot of insight that your
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average Joe podcast does not have wait did you just stumble upon us in like the
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you may like page on Instagram yeah like I know you're following us at some point
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or know of us or maybe maybe he doesn't maybe he just stumbled on it yeah maybe
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you just looking for MMA things and that happened so in case you didn't know um
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we're both both very well educated we've been around a lot we probably know
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personally your favorite fighter and we've been fighting since the UFC
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allowed straw weights in the UFC so relax yeah calm down calm down we
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have the credentials chill we have the CR some research yeah yeah 2,000
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significant strikes in the UFC just saying
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just saying I know what it feels like to throw a punch but uh also I do feel like
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um we have better Insight on the female fights sure but you're not going to look
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at two men breaking down a female fight are you going to say the same thing to the men but you're not not credible not
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credible how would you know what a female nutshot feels like that's kind of a inedible thing to
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say but you're not going to ask those questions because you're a chauvinist just go play video games or
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do whatever you do normally in your mom's basement yeah stop it yeah but uh
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I do want to go back to this fight I felt
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like we digressed we digressed I felt like gine was doing a great job like I
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felt like her uh kicks were looking really nice she was stringing together combinations
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and it was just this one moment she threw a naked kick and sza did a great
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job of passing the kick along Landing a hook hook up top and you never expect
30:11
two hooks M like you never expect two hooks you expect a 3-2 or or a or a hook
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overhand or like a hook shot but you never expect two hooks and because she
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threw that naked kick her hands were a little low she had just gotten stopped the nutshot and I her Rhythm wasn't back
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on yet as it was when she was flowing and hitting and throwing her on that
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shot so that sucks I mean Jamal Hill talks about it in his um in his fight
30:44
with uh padaa how just that little moment of interruption totally throw off
30:50
his rhythm and he like he's not blaming herb I think it was Herb Dean right who
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didn't actually jump in but just that Interruption of a moment can throw off
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your Rhythm and make you not really ready for that next big punch that's happening like you use all this time to
31:07
establish okay this is what I'm doing okay I'm making reads and then you start flowing and then all of a sudden oh wait
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stop yeah so it's definitely a thing um and I feel horrible for her because uh
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she was doing so well but uh Kellin sza kudos to her she came out of nowhere uh
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the second biggest Underdog on the card I think the the I mean obviously the
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biggest Underdog who won on the card uh I think it was plus 500 or something
31:35
like that that that her odds were to win so big deal for her and she might be
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moving up when it comes to competition I'd be interested to see her with
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someone just outside of the rankings like uh like a Jackie and moram somebody
31:53
like that who's um you know just knocking on the door at the top 15 but hasn't broken through yet
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MH uh I mean potentially it's her second fight in the UFC mhm her first fight was
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against man uh she had a she had a man yeah she had a good showing there um and
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I mean she does have the potential to take um War's spot in in the rankings
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for sure oh was she ranked well I mean where she was you know in in the ladder
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the invisible top the the top because there are more than Fighters yeah yeah the top the top 30 to 15 that spot for
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sure for sure yeah I think um anyone who beats Yas me because she just had such a
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big splash when she got into the UFC usually gets a big opportunity right away like uh Denise Gomez um she got to
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fight me yay um and then who else was it uh not she Yas Meine beat her I think
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but that girl went on to fight uh uh kolina and beat her and now she is in
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the top 15 as well so uh Yas me is definitely right there and when she
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loses um those people get to or not even when she loses but anyone who she fights if they have a good showing they get to
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jump up a bit and when it comes to Opportunities yeah I mean I could see her fighting uh just outside of the top
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15 I'm not exactly sure who but she's definitely on the 2 be watched list yeah for sure and uh I
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mean we we uh got the train of Yasmine a little bit what do you think about like
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the weight cut because she's a big girl she's a bigger girl um she's I mean she's still pretty young I feel like we
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talk about this a lot how much the weight cut can actually affect the performance and we've seen two examples
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of you know that could two examples of her being dropped and losing a fight
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potentially because of a weight cut yeah and in the winds too I mean the reason
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that her fights are so exciting is because a lot of she packs a lot of power because she cuts a ton of weight
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well no a lot of times she gets dropped and then comes back and then drops the person she's like kind of like a Mexican
34:19
female gatei in a sense you know like she puts on these crazy fights and when
34:25
you win you don't look at it as something that you need to fix as hard as when you lose so I think this is two
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times in a row where she wasn't able to recover and I think I would just love to
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see her try 125 once well so you're not focusing the whole fight camp on losing
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weight and making the weight you know you can put that energy into so many more productive different places like
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skill like building muscle like doing things that are more positive for you rather than trying to deplete yourself
34:58
completely for that potential Advantage because what we've seen repeatedly is
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it'll be an advantage for a time having that size strength power Advantage but
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at a certain point it just starts doing the opposite it has it has a more negative effect so she's she gets pretty
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big I don't know what she weighs outside of camp but just looking at her she looks like she could be one of those
35:23
girls that could make that jump up yeah or you know she doesn't have to commit to 12 125 either she could be a Rebus or
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a uh in androd who bounces back and forth and depending on the opportunity
35:38
yeah I'll jump in and I'll fight this person or I'll I'll take the time to cut the weight and fight that person and I
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think that might open up opportunities for her just because it's a little easier to climb to the top at
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125 um and once you hit the rankings in one weight class it almost carries over
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to the other yeah excuse me bless you I really wanted to get the sentence
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out before that happened like I can't yeah we've seen it with heus we've seen it with soras yeah um there there are
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girls that can jump up and down um and then maybe you know she goes up and
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takes a fight and she realizes that she loves it maybe she realiz that she doesn't maybe it's a lifestyle change thing uh but I I do from the data that
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I've collected just watching her closely I just feel like there is something to it with her being able to recover and
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adapt in a fight when facing adversity and that could be because of the weight cut yeah and uh you know it it doesn't
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even it might not even be about the weight cut being super harsh because she
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does look healthy when she weighs in she doesn't look drawn out or eyes aren't
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all bugged out or anything she looks healthy she looks good but it could just
36:58
be about protecting that brain just a little bit more because if you have that accumulation we talk about CTE and
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getting dropped and how eventually it catches up with you you might not even realize what you're experiencing or the
37:13
moment where you first got that brain damage but to to protect your brain
37:19
having less harsh weight Cuts will do that yeah so even if your weight cut isn't the suckiest we don't have a ton
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of weight to cut but they still suck you're still dry and sucked out and
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thirsty and if you're lucky you're your lips aren't sticking to your teeth in the morning
37:39
wor but it's it's it's harsh it's unhealthy and the less stress you put on
37:44
the body I think the better you'll perform especially if you're already having um moments where where you're
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taking the same damage you take in training but you're getting dropped from that yeah I just I think she's so
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talented and such a force I would just really like to see her you know be able
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to show what she has consistently yeah she's been working really hard on everything like her grappling looks so
38:11
much better now her her wrestling the way she puts everything together in the gym and in her fights as well but it's
38:17
just it's something special and I want her to have a successful career and I care about her brain and I care about
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every Fighter's brain like this is you know we so much are caring about people look at us little aunties of
38:33
MMA two aunties that's the spin-off
38:40
yeah we're GNA have our little uh our little MooMoo on and our glasses I'll be
38:48
drunk every episode though wi episode every episode we'll have wine a whole
38:53
bottle you guys can watch us finish it and talk [ __ ] about how good we were back in the day
39:00
and these kids don't know how good they have it oh God don't even get me started I could do that now dude did I ever tell
39:08
you um about Lisa Ellis doing that to me when Lisa
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Ellis your favorite poor thing she did that to me when I was uh before we got on the show
39:22
we were like in a car and they had already taken our phones away and stuff but we were on our way to I guess a
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hotel or something and it was me Rose and Lisa Ellis in the car and we were
39:33
both talking about how hard it was to get fights in order to uh you know get on the show or just in general and I'm
39:40
like yeah I had to fight like two days before try outs and I had to do all this stuff to get the girl to fight me and
39:46
then Rose is like sharing her story about how hard it was to get a fight after like a couple wins and then Lisa
39:53
goes she's in a of course she's in a friend seat she does she does to Mama
40:00
like you girls don't know how good you have it she started talking about how
40:07
she had to fight up a weight class and had to fight like in bars and all this other stuff and we were both kind of
40:14
like shut up lat bad kids yeah like we're both kind of no one was talking to
40:20
you but we let her talk but that was that was the face like I feel like it's just that it's coming from her like if
40:26
somebody else had said the same exact thing yeah it probably would have been received a lot better it just sounded
40:32
kind of spiteful it didn't sound like she was trying to a chip on her shoulder she was also one of those Fighters like
40:39
she was fighting before I started fighting and I I fought her twice and I I always admired the fact
40:47
that she was stepping up fighting people that are bigger and you know she she was you know wrestle heavy kind of fighter I
40:53
I love grappling so I had a lot of like respect and admiration without like knowing anything about her and then I
40:59
met her and then I realized that she's one of those Fighters no I I learned a lot because of
41:06
the way she showed up to me because she was one of those Fighters that wouldn't take accountability responsibility for
41:12
her losses and like her performances I was like wow I never want to be like that I it's very important for fighters
41:19
to look at themselves in the mirror to take the feedback from fights to really like take them seriously into heart and
41:25
go work on yourself because would just blame everybody else for all of her losses or for things not going her way
41:32
and it just it drove me crazy so I I appreciate her for that thank you for
41:37
showing me what not to do yeah it's it's hard man because yeah
41:42
you you want to look at every every uh different detail of why
41:48
something went wrong and try to figure out okay why did this happen when I was so confident that it was going to go
41:54
right but at the same time putting putting that much power on something you
41:59
have no control over is just self-destructive it's not productive at all yeah it isn't like instead of
42:05
blaming other people figure out how these other people aren't going to affect your performance you know if they
42:11
mess up because you can only really 100% rely on yourself and uh yeah it's just
42:18
it's hard to live that way like it's hard to compete for sure that way and even just going through life in general
42:24
if you're blaming everyone else for your mishaps then you're never going to get anything done no yeah
42:32
sad sucky but hopefully she's doing that right now I mean that was 10 years ago
42:37
when uh we were having that conversation I just thought it was funny because now 10 years later here I am about to do the
42:45
same thing with the next generation of Fighters you girls don't know how good you have it you have Contender series
42:52
you don't have to go in a house for weeks at a time time you get to use your
42:59
phone during fight Camp you know train with your own coaches you don't know how
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good you have it no these girls got it good for sure yeah it's it's nice to see where the sports going though it is I'm
43:12
I'm not jealous I'm happy I'm happy for him um well you know there's one kid we
43:18
haven't talked about she we if we must why okay so I
43:26
actually didn't really watch his fight it was it was his typical so he's becoming one of those like really
43:31
grapple heavy okay like um guys I mean he was he was he was always kind of like
43:36
that though right or did he just throw more on the feet before he got to the grapple yeah now it's just it's very
43:42
much leading he wants to get that double egg he wants to get that takedown he wants to get that submission um it
43:50
was I think what I was like what was is that did you hear that H I'm still
43:59
choking from that whipped cream I swallowed down the wrong pipe you're playing it off very
44:06
well no he's um yeah they're they're building him up he's already calling for
44:11
his retirement he's uh yeah I saw that I'm like it's it's nice that he has this
44:16
all mapped up I don't you know I don't know that it's going to go that way um
44:22
he he didn't have the performance that I think the matchmakers intended or wanted him to have open the he called for a
44:29
bonus afterwards and the whole broadcast team were like you don't get one you don't get one from that kind of
44:35
performance um but I it's he's he's in a
44:40
great position because the organization loves him and they're pushing him um he's in a tough spot though
44:46
because he's also like learning on the fly yeah you know it's it's a tough spot
44:51
to be in there's going to be a lot of pressure so I hope he stays grounded I hope he keeps um evolving and just like
44:57
really focused on on that goal and keeps cleaning his room and keeps cleaning his room otherwise dad's not going to let
45:04
heing on that bonus to get out of the house oh man yeah he's going to stay in there for a few more months like I'mma
45:10
get me an apartment I won't have to clean anything rats and roaches oh god oh man
45:19
I can just imagine how dirty his room was to make that a news article right
45:24
you know like it had may it was just a slow week in MMA for them to talk about that I don't know I feel like it had to
45:31
be really bad like he I want to see pictures I want to see if I can Google it right now maybe a horer house like he
45:38
just turned his dad's place into a hoer house had pizza boxes with half eaten
45:44
Pizza laying around what did they go out of vacation like were they out for the weekend or something like that how could
45:50
they how could it get that bad oh you think he had one of those House Parties that they always do on those stupid mov
45:57
M he like my parents are off for the weekend and then the whole like Jiu-Jitsu JY
46:03
comes through and has like a big keger maybe maybe yeah I'd love to see what that
46:10
actually looks like but um at least he's in the win column he's getting he got another fight done the thing is when you
46:18
have that much hype behind you they're always going to keep pushing you as long as you keep getting those wins no agreed
46:26
yeah agre but again as we've seen like like with Ali like with uh Paige and
46:32
Sage like as as long as they can they will give them good matchups but there's
46:37
a certain point yeah where those matchups become very scarce yes and then
46:44
not possible and then you are just left to you know to do what you do do the best you
46:51
can that's kind of what happened when a m f Yan yeah but
46:57
luckily the judges were on his side I wonder if Chris Lee and Sal deato were
47:03
scoring that card I'm curious how do we Google
47:10
that uh look up MMA decisions omali versus
47:16
Yan ooh conspiracy I need a foil hat for whenever I think of something one of my
47:22
conspiracies against judges it's always about judging though it's never about anything
47:28
else so that was hold on let me blow this up uh Ben cartilage Dave leab and
47:36
veto paleo okay and it was it was unanimous or split it what wait why
47:44
can't I see um okay uh veto the one I've never heard
47:51
of is the only one that scored it for Yan yeah dang okay so wasn't they're not
47:59
part of they are on my list though of people who to watch out for but um not
48:05
my personal list just list in general I don't think Ben cartilage and dang it
48:11
sorry I don't think Ben carage has ever done me wrong but he has had some question well he sure did uh Yan wrong
48:18
he did he did to the where is he been where's pan been is he he's chilling in
48:24
Thailand somewhere maybe taking a family vacation back in Russia who knows
48:30
interesting he's Russian right uh I believe so I think
48:36
so I did really I did really poorly on the flags yesterday I was like that's
48:42
a no it's from Argentina I was way off no is it the same language though that
48:49
they both speak they have a very similar dialect type of Spanish yeah it's Spanish but they have a very like a
48:55
Spanish Spanish you Spanish that's what I mean yeah yeah you get me got you well
49:01
I couldn't find a picture of raal Rosa's room so if you guys at home have that
49:07
picture I'd really like to see it somebody knows him somebody us we want to see we want to see the catastrophe we
49:13
want to see why he got in trouble and it was all over MMA News yeah yeah well um we had some fan questions that I'd like
49:20
to you know kick around a little bit oh okay and let's see I'm going to pull up
49:26
one right now and a lot of them we already hit kind of breaking down the fights
49:33
um uh someone asked oh well we thought of K katyn
49:40
sza's knockdown which would have been nice to read before because we forgot her name
49:48
um and oh we already hit most of this stuff actually I probably should have vetted the
49:55
the question before did you go on our Instagram questions um yes one thing
50:02
people want to know is are you single because of course I used our post
50:10
Hill Sprints booty picture to ask the questions well your booty looked very
50:16
bootylicious in that so I wasn't surprised you posted ity your booty looked very booty and your booty got all
50:24
the attention I don't think so and your shoes people like those shoes they're
50:29
great running shoes ever since I broke my foot they're great socks I love the
50:34
socks they're good socks they're great socks I love those socks oh man um one
50:42
person as take down the fence versus grappling on ground defense
50:48
discuss what does that mean I think they're saying um what's the difference
50:55
like uh so so like if we're talking about od's fight uh OD Osborne he didn't really use
51:04
a takeown defense kind of approach he used a on ground defense kind of
51:09
approach where he was on his back he was hunting for submissions and not really
51:15
using like wrestling getups to get back up to his feet and uh yeah I think I
51:21
think in MMA the safest bet when you're a Grappler is to always end up on top no
51:30
matter what like if if you're going to pull guard be really good at sweeping if you're going to get put on your back
51:37
just know eventually once the clock ticks to maybe 30 seconds in if
51:43
nothing's going on you have to have a good get up you know what I mean and and I think that's what they're asking but
51:49
what are your feelings on take like being defensive with the takedowns or with the wrestling I guess versus being
51:56
def with the grappling well it depends on on style stylistic match up it
52:01
depends on on like who the fighter is as a fighter what techniques that they they
52:06
lead with if they're Grapplers you know sometimes it's okay to give up a taked down MH um I I give up lots of takedowns
52:13
because I I want to be there so if you're doing half of the work uh but when you play that kind of game you have
52:19
to be really good at attacking right off the takedown you have to be really good at sweeping right off the takedown and knowing as you were just saying when
52:25
when to get up when to you know create space kind of thing um if you're if you're a striker
52:32
and you don't feel comfortable on the ground then you're going to really have to work on your takedown defense right uh using using the cage as as leverage
52:41
so you're not getting taken down in the open um it just it just depends on what you're trying to do and accomplish in
52:47
that fight um but I think for wrestling and you know
52:53
Jiu-Jitsu type Grapplers I think um hand fight is extremely important in in both
52:58
cases uh getting risk control hand control hand fighting um is your first line of defense yeah yeah I think um
53:07
with uh I forgot I was going to
53:14
say well I I this is what I was going to say I think when you're learning like
53:20
from a Striker's point of view when you're learning the first thing you learn is the takeown part uh of the
53:26
defense um and then once you start getting a little more versed in the grappling area then you start learning
53:34
grappling defense and I think the difference is grappling defense is
53:40
fighting the hands like you said going for submissions doing things that can create space and then allow you to get
53:46
up allow you to sweep that kind of stuff but it feels a lot more complicated than
53:51
just getting your back to the wall getting your knee behind you and starting to build up and and I think
53:56
that's why people who are teaching Strikers how to do the whole MMA game
54:03
they usually do the MMA part or the the wrestling part first before they get to
54:09
the grappling part because there's a lot of tiny tiny moving parts and the learning curve is a lot more drastic
54:17
like if I'm if I'm grappling someone who has three days of experience and I have
54:23
one they're going to smash me and that's just how crazy they learning curve is but with wrestling it's a little more
54:28
physical so you can win with athleticism in wrestling more often than you can in
54:33
Jiu-Jitsu um and I and I do think that it is in MMA a little bit easier to
54:39
defend effectively against really good Grapplers um just by implementing some
54:46
very like basic techniques yeah you can you can absolutely you can have um offense and that can be part of
54:53
your defense you know um in in Striking and and ground but I think that you know
54:58
if somebody is more Jiu-Jitsu heavy and they're hunting for submissions I think it is easy to kind of like stall and stay safe if you just like stay small
55:06
same thing with you know defending the takedown um yeah there's just it's a
55:12
little bit easier I think to stay safe with
55:18
uh oh in MMA yeah yeah for sure for sure yeah yeah um interesting question I
55:24
don't know if we answered it yeah I need more I need more and that was from uh
55:30
play play voltage who is a member so they get two
55:36
questions and uh we kind of answered it but I think we could talk more about what we would do personally but uh he
55:43
also asked how would you have dealt with Dumont going backwards um you too often
55:49
you see Fighters just plotting after their opponent for three rounds and this is actually um you know something that
55:56
we worked on for my last fight unfortunately she kind of crashed in more often than we expected but one
56:03
thing that you want to or that I try to do when someone is circling moving
56:09
backwards and kind of just beating me like just being a little faster than I am when I finally commit is trying to
56:17
come forward with the punches like if you're if your opponent is circling
56:23
instead of punching where they are punch where they're going to be kind of like a you know like when you took me to shock
56:29
putt yeah you know like shoot at where it's going to be is kind of what you have to do especially when they're
56:35
circling really hard you never want to follow them how like how uh you you how
56:42
do you say it irini yeah Irene uh bris said it kind of weird
56:48
but that's how you say it right is yeah uh aldana was just following her and it
56:56
was was easier for her to get sniped as she came in but if you kind of cut off
57:02
like kind of zigzag your combination as you're coming in and throw more than one
57:08
then you're able to at least tag them on that last hit especially if that last hit is aimed to where you imagine them
57:15
going and she was kind of circling the same way for most of the fights so she could have tried to cut her off when she
57:22
would Circle this way to her um Circle to her right or deont left um that's
57:28
where I would try to aim that last punch or that last kick or something that
57:33
would close that distance cut her off and be able to hit her when she thinks she's out of range MH yeah cutting off
57:40
would have been really important adjustment to make in this fight um I think throwing a head kick could have
57:47
also just kind of like um you know I think about like a what is a cat playing with a ball of yarn you want to keep
57:52
them in between the MS yes kind of thing and it's a little bit harder when somebody's running so much to do that
57:57
with boxing if you're not in a ring so the Octagon allows for like a continuous
58:03
movement you know there are no like real Corners to get stuck in um so I think
58:09
that you know cutting off anticipating where she's going to be um and then throwing to that I think head kakes
58:15
could have caught her as she was kind of running on the way out at least like make her deflect and then go the other
58:21
way you know what I'm saying so there yeah there's just certain things that she wasn't making those adjustments for
58:28
yeah and then also changing that level and really trying to kind of jump into
58:33
that clinch position get a hold of her a little bit be able to just hang on her
58:38
and slow her down even if you're not able to get a taked down just being able to get a hold of her somehow maybe score
58:44
stop her in place so you could score just a little bit yeah because you saw how tired she was uh dant was in third
58:50
round so running being on your bicycle is tiring even if you're doing all the
58:55
damage if you're Landing all the punches she was tired in that last round and that's when alonna was able to finally
59:01
like land the mark she was finally able to reach her so I think the faster you can slow someone down who runs whether
59:08
it's leg kicks whether it's grabbing them and grappling them even if you have no intention of trying to submit him
59:14
just doing something to make him like chill and sit in a place where you can hit him would be ideal because as soon
59:20
as they can't keep that distance away they're uncomfortable and if you're someone who likes to fight in the pocket
59:27
that's what you want you want to be comfortable and you want them to be uncomfortable some good questions play
59:33
voltage uh do you have any um Instagram questions that weren't about
59:40
your butt no I don't they all got kind of voided out oh
59:48
um one person on Instagram wrote uh I'd love to hear your L's thoughts about zel
59:54
Burger reix we kind of broke that down already and he also ask if chevchenko
1:00:00
may or may not have been a black widow in a former life maybe I think she was a
1:00:07
pray mantis yeah we're talking about that yeah I feel like she would woo them with
1:00:15
her traditional dance and then as soon as you give her what she
1:00:21
want the head bye-bye so that definitely pray mantis
1:00:27
not a black widow that's more of a I don't know maybe Amanda nunz oh she just
1:00:33
stings them yeah stings them dead shevchenko brings you in with her fancy
1:00:43
movements oh yeah um yeah I think we we answered all these
1:00:50
I I probably shouldn't have read them first because I feel like those are at the top of my head um I did think it was
1:00:56
funny that they were broadcasting the sphere on the outside of the sphere well
1:01:01
were they continuously doing it or was it just Clips I think it was just Clips I think they probably had like the
1:01:08
designs going on the outside but every now and then they would pop Bruce up there or they would pop a highlight up
1:01:14
there or something but I'm thinking man it'd be funny if they had the whole thing there and you're just like in the
1:01:21
pazio on your balcony watching the fight so many people loitering
1:01:26
yeah just the streets are littered with people at the sphere it was pretty cool
1:01:32
though I I thought it was a a really fun venue that they did maybe they'll do
1:01:37
something else cool like that weren't they talking about going to the Coliseum at one point that would be cool it would
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be fun I don't know if that'll ever happen but no probably they should make it like super authentic where they're fighting people in the dirt they
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fighting live animals yeah yeah they lift up a gate and then it's like Dereck
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Lewis and Francis andano and you have to beat both of them at once you get a
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spear they just pick a lucky guy from the crowd to try see that would be fun
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put all the trolls in the stands and let us let us battle to the death oh yes oh
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I bet they'd be surprised like we're gon to pick the
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woman we're not going to go easy on you never never
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well that's our show thanks for joining us this has been another two straws I
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hope y'all have fun and oh what are the fights next week you won't know until next
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week we'll talk about them next week but just uh so we're all on the same
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page UFC UFC oh that's moano versus St Denise they have not even talked about
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this they haven't and that's a damn good fight I didn't even know that was happening that is a fun fun main event
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that will uh that is a UFC Fight Night no doubt at the uh at the Apex okay yeah
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there are oh cool Brian battle is back I like watching him fight little Pooh bear or
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Battle Bear oh alen is back oh tker yes Tor
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girl I like her traditional dance it's very authentic
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uh J de Rami actually had to pull out of her fight I thought yeah she I thought
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she got injured a that's sucks yeah I was looking forward to her return too yeah I love watching her
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fight but we will see you guys next week uh what oh no go ahead I say don't
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forget to send us your questions ahead of time we love answering most of them some of them you guys need to keep
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asking Jess if she's single because hey if you have a cute profile picture she might
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be don't ask if you have your girlfriend on the profile picture please that is just that is just disappointing don't do
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that you guys naughty naughty be better see you by
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