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Joining us this episode is undefeated #14 featherweight and all round English gentleman, Lerone Murphy!
We talk about the injury that took him out of the Dan Ige fight and what rehab is going to look like; crazy origin stories; meeting him at Alliance back in 2015; his future goals and more!
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what's up everyone this is another
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episode of two straws two straws I don't
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know which way it is it's okay I think
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this works uh we have a really exciting
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guest today we have Lon Murphy who is an
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undefeated featherweight Prospect in the
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UFC and he's here to talk to us about
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what's going on uh we'll let him in the
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studio right
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now yo yo hey Lon thanks for joining us
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thank you for having me how are you good
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can you your camera a little bit turn it
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just a tiny there we go we made your see
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like the whole year
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yeah so thank you so much for joining us
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um I know that you had a fight coming up
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you were going to have your uh big debut
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against Dan eay um as the co-main event
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on a UFC fight night and we just got
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word that you had to pull out due to
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injury what's going
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on yeah so um I just got back from
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Thailand I've done like half my training
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camp there uh I got back and then I was
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in a wrestling practice and I popped my
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shoulder
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out um it's not it's not too serious but
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I couldn't train for like six weeks six
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weeks rehab so the fight is in like 3
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weeks or something
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so it's not I couldn't I couldn't make
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the fight this time
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around that must have been really
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heartbreaking um I I know how it is when
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you get that big opportunity and then
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it's out of your hands you can't take it
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but how did it feel when you got the
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name in the first place I was excited I
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thought it's a good matchup and big name
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obviously everybody knows him he's had
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he's been in there with the best of the
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best so I thought like a win over him
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was like the start pretty pretty much
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the start of big things for me so pretty
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pissed off that it didn't go to plan but
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I'm sure I'll get another
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opportunity uh what is the rehab going
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to be like for your
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shoulder well they said like six to
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eight weeks but I'm going to fly to the
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states and get the stem
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cells probably in the next week or so
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I'm going to get stem cells and then
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start my rehab but I feel like this
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injury happened two weeks ago and it's
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like it's already much better than it
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was so
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I reckon like four four to six weeks I
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think I'll be
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back understood um when you first found
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out that you were injured and that you
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were going to have to pull out of the
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fight um what kind of emotions were you
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going through and how do you keep
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yourself uh emotionally saying you know
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we all go through injuries as Fighters
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and a lot of people take fights injured
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and um I really respect that you're you
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know putting your health first and
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taking care of yourself so that you you
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know can compete as your best version
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yeah well I have been in the Octagon
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many times injured like I think we all
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we all end up getting there with
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something but with this injury I
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couldn't grapple couldn't couldn't even
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post couldn't do anything couldn't even
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lift my arm at the time um I still
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wanted to fight but management and coach
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said said it's the best best not to
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fight just take take this one out but
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yeah like you said it's heartbreaking um
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as an athlete we've only got like a a
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small window so we want to we want to
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get active and want to get fighting um
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I've already been out for like six
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months already so so yeah it's
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heartbreaking but I'm just keep I'm just
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keeping mentally um strong and stuff
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like that and eating a lot of food but
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I'm just trying to not stay F but it's
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hard it's hard like s about doing
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nothing well um you you fought a lot in
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Abu Dhabi and I think uh just because
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you're coming out py was kind of during
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covid you've been flying a little under
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the radar so it's it's going to be
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exciting once you do get that
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opportunity but um like you said how do
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you keep yourself from trying to rush
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into a bad situation like we all saw TJ
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Dillashaw he had that really bad
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shoulder injury and he kind of felt that
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pressure too like he wasn't going to get
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this opportunity if he waited if he
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allowed himself to get healthy and maybe
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did that have anything to do with you
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making kind of a better decision for
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yourself for me it's just like I feel
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like I've got time um and obviously I've
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got good people around me as well that
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make the decisions for me because as a
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fighter we're we're always going to just
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get in there like it doesn't it doesn't
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really matter to us but that's why it's
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important to have a solid team um to
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make them decisions for you do you know
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what I mean but I feel like my I feel
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like because it's not like a major major
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um injury I feel like hopefully um April
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I can get matched up again with somebody
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in the top 15 so that's what I'm aiming
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for anyway ni I I haven't seen them
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reann nowc an opponent for eay do you
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think that they'll
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F's yeah fine feel now got you that'll
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be an exciting match up as well um so
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you've you've broken into the top 15
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um after you know winning several fights
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in the UFC what kind of path do you see
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and how long do you see it taking you to
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get to where you want to
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go yeah for me activity that's what's
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let me down really I've only had like
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what six fights in I think I've been
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with the UFC four years now so it's not
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it's not a lot and obviously we had the
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co there and every time I get booked to
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fight in the states it gets canceled for
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some reason I've had two
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injuries um a visa
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application did um and what else the
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covid yeah so like three four fights
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have been cancelled so for me it's just
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activity I just need to get like get
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some momentum going I fight like three
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four time three four times in a year and
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I feel like that's when um my career
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will take
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off so we first met you at Alliance but
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who do you train with now I'm at
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Manchester top team this has been my
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original team but like I I do I do try
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like to travel for training get
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different looks work with different
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cultures like take the best bits from
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everywhere how did you get in uh wrapped
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up in Alliance back in the day so I used
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to trat with Brendon I used to train
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with Brendan he knows he knows Dom so I
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ended up coming over in 2015 was the
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first time I think and I would have been
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still I would have still been amateur
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then yeah yeah that so that was when we
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first met when you first came yeah yeah
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yeah yeah yeah yeah I remember I
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remember actually the first time walking
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in Alliance and you was I think you was
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working on your grappling or something I
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think you were just transition from my
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Tha or something yeah I thought I
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remember anyway I can't remember
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probably looked [ __ ] that's why you
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remember
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she need to keep working she need to
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keep working on
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that he's laughing because
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it's I never actually got a chance to
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interact with you very much I'm quite
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introverted and I act kind of like a
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feral Barn cat sometimes so it's like
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very skittish around new
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people so unless somebody's a really
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extroverted personality to like bring
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that out of me it's it's a slow slow
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process yeah I'm the same I'm the same
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I'm very quiet and like introverted as
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well so yeah do you have any oh I'm
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sorry but well I was
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ask do you have any main training
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Partners out at um on a top team that
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you um just is always like I'm always
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training with Jess I'm always training
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with like a handful of girls that are
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just like my goto who who are your
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people that keep you in shape keep you
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in check yeah so this is we' we've got
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we've got a solid team to be fair the
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Gym's pretty busy and but my main
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training partners are Jordan he fights
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at Bellator um he's a he's moved over to
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a organization in Croatia I was a
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champion there um I got some Russian
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kids called Ibrahim I think you you'll
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end up seeing him very soon top prospect
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U we've got a lot of upand comers a lot
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of guys that like six and seven and0 up
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and coming um PF have you seen that
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little ginger kid from pfl that's been
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knocking everybody out no that what size
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he's pretty smart as Banton weight but
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he's been he been like koing everyone
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and he's in our gym as well we got some
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good fires
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okay nice so Lon I've got to ask I've um
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you know done a little looking on the
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internet and what came up is a crazy
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story about you and you've actually been
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shot and I wanted to ask if you would
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share that story with us and if that had
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anything to do with you get getting into
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MMA yeah well it didn't have anything to
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do with me getting in MMA but it surely
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did help me get off that path that I was
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on um so like would have been like 10
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years ago now 2013 I didn't train then
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at all I didn't do any any martial arts
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at all then and I was living a totally
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different life uh from I am now and then
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I ended up getting into some sort of
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drama and then getting shot coming out
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of a
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barers uh so from there it was like
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I I didn't start training straight away
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but I feel like once I started training
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it kind of took my mind away from ER
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thinking about negative stuff and stuff
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like that because as you know when
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you're training hard you don't have the
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time you don't have the energy uh and
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it's like I had something to focus on
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which was which is what I needed at the
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time a how long was it really does it
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does it's crazy um how long was the
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recovery for that because I know I I
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read you still have a little piece in in
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your
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tongue yeah you know what it wasn't it
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wasn't too long it was just I think I
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feel like more it was like more mental
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damage it's like you just like I don't
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know I don't think the the injury was
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well it was but it wasn't like yeah I
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couldn't do anything for AG I think I
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started training like maybe nine months
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after that or something okay so the
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start of 2014 I started training but
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yeah it's just like more for mental
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stuff I didn't I was going to fight or
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anything yeah what did that you
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mentioned mental what exactly did that
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look like like in how did it change
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you the incident or the training well
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the after the incident you said that it
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mentally changed you what was that like
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just it's just more like um can't
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explain it's just like after it happened
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it's like I went I felt like I went into
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like a depressive State like I didn't
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really want to go out didn't really like
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trust people around around me and stuff
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like that
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um yeah and just like bad kind of bad
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thoughts maybe uh but yeah like I said
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doite training like that kind of cleared
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my mind I got like a new set of friends
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Almost uh you know I mean like people
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that are on the same Journey stuff as me
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so it was good it saved me pretty
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much that's awesome that's that's really
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inspiring you know we we every time we
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interview someone there's a story like
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that where MMA saved them in one way or
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another and it's just uh it's it's weird
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how MMA fighters get this stigma that
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we're all uh brutes and we're just
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violent and Knuckleheads and really it's
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like no we would have been worse if we
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didn't have MMA
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MMA took us out of that mindset and if
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you want us to bring it back yeah 100%
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like I know a lot of people like most
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Fighters have been through some sort of
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trauma like in the Life get what I'm
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saying like and that's that's what
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that's why we wired up the way we are
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and I feel like MMA has saved a lot of
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people like give people a platform give
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people a job and uh yeah it's good good
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for the world that's
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great I love hearing that I'm I'm sorry
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that that happened but I'm happy to hear
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that there was a positive coming out of
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it yeah it was a positive actually and
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like like at the time you don't when bad
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happen to you at the time you're like
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why why me but like further down the
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line you see that it it was for a reason
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and it's to Red redirect you um to
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better things so I'm happy it happened
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really I love
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that oh go ahead oh no I was just saying
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I love that sorry we're a little bit
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delayed my it it's raining in San Diego
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for the first time and my power went out
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so I know right
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it's raining you you brought the weather
13:03
with your
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streaming it's actually not raining here
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at the minute it's cold though okay
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where are you guys training
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now um actually we're uh all at uh
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adrianne's gim do you know Adrian
13:19
Melendez over
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here him yeah we're all kind of out
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there right now everyone's just grouped
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together alliances kind of dissipated
13:30
but there's gyms everywhere so the the
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main nugget of the alliance MMA people
13:37
are still there even if there's no like
13:39
actual
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building and everyone's just kind of
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helping each other out right now but um
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I've actually been the Great Britain top
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team before uh oh yeah that's the the
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London the lond Brad Pi yeah I went to
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Brad pickets one before have you ever
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trained out there I've not no because I
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remember I supposed to fight in the I
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was meant to train there but um I was
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going to fight in the F remember
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so oh okay oh yeah yeah did you guys get
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uh any beef on the come up with
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that we've had we've had a few back and
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forths and stuff like that but it's like
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I see I think was on the same card in
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July yeah in July um kind of seeing each
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other there we had a little altercation
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in the hotel and then
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and then after it I think be it might
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have been F day no after the weighs he
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like come over to me and said like oh
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the media's like staring stuff up and
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stuff like that so we just we just kind
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of swashed it but it was it was nothing
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really okay what did you think of uh
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Strickland and dupi squashing their beef
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was it kind of a similar thing you
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think their is deeper than our there was
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like there there was some some bad words
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got said about them ma was just Petty
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bickering online but there is deep so it
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was good to see him bury it though um
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have a fight s it out and that's the
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best way to do it right yeah uh speaking
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of that fight everyone's debating on who
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won did you get to catch it last uh what
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was it like uh last weekend yeah I I
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think Strickland won to be honest it was
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very I could see why judges give it the
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other way but it's it's very close
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fights it's just it's just based on
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perspective and how you score certain
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certain things so yeah it could have
15:32
went either way
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okay so you just mentioned judging what
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do you think would change the the
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pattern of terrible judging
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decisions um do you see a fix to it at
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all I think it's going to be hard to do
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it because like I said it's a it's an
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opinion uh it's it's based on opinion I
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think they would have to do like some
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extensive TR training on like a small
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circuit of Judges so like they're all
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kind of seeing the same thing watch
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fights score fights and then give him
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kind of some coaching I don't know but I
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feel I feel like it'd be hard to
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do yeah it is very objective and it's no
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matter how many times I read the rules
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I'll always score it different from the
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judges and it it's like it's supposed to
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be this thing first and this thing then
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this thing and it never really seems the
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same but then when I look at people who
16:29
I usually agree with sometimes I think a
16:32
different person got the round so it's
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uh it is really tough and maybe everyone
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needs a smart cage like the P the
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computer to do it exactly the same every
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day but even still then it still
16:47
wouldn't be accurate because they're
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counting like little rabbit punches and
16:51
stuff like that how's that how you defer
16:53
that from like bigger shots and stuff
16:55
like that so I think it's it's very hard
16:57
to do in it maybe some AI maybe some AI
17:00
one day will be able to be able to pick
17:02
that up for us AI judges will definitely
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be better than Douglas Crosby that's
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what can't we need to keep getting Kos
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just like Lon we just need to take the
17:13
judges out of it completely I've
17:15
actually got two decisions in a row I
17:17
need a I need a finish I I need a finish
17:21
now so what's your secret to getting
17:24
finishes I I know you just you're a
17:26
little disappointed in yourself but
17:28
you're still undefeated which is amazing
17:31
um but do you have like kind of a secret
17:33
that you feel like really gets you
17:35
closer to getting finishes more than
17:37
other guys in your weight
17:39
class I feel like I've just got very
17:42
good timing over anything timing and a
17:44
good eye for picking up like making
17:46
reads and stuff like that when I go out
17:49
and try and finish that's when I don't
17:50
look the best and it never comes do you
17:53
get what I'm saying so I feel like I
17:54
just got let it flow and just like pick
17:57
make some reads I feel that's why I feel
17:59
like the eay fight would have been a
18:00
good fight for me but oh
18:02
well yeah well if it's not eay is there
18:06
anyone else you got your eyes on who's
18:08
uh
18:08
ranked yeah I just want to fight anybody
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ranked I don't want to I feel like I've
18:13
about six fights now outsid I just want
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to fight anybody that's ranks all
18:16
basically they're probably going to give
18:18
me a Ceres is is there he's not much at
18:22
the minute uh Sadi
18:25
Yousef one of them guys anybody anybody
18:29
I just want to test myself really like
18:31
I'm not really I'm not really bothered
18:32
who I fight at this moment I just want
18:34
to just see how far I can go with
18:36
it sure so you're you know you're young
18:40
in the sport and you're young in the UFC
18:43
you're already ranked do you think about
18:47
the end or do you see do you have a
18:49
timeline do you have anything you want
18:51
to do or are starting to do before you
18:53
retire I know it's a long it's far way
18:56
off yeah you know what like every time I
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put a plan together in my head like I
19:01
want to do this this live just shows me
19:03
that it's not that simple do you get
19:05
what I'm saying like this year I wanted
19:07
to I saying oh I want to have three
19:09
fights or four fights and then I get
19:10
injured so it's like I'm just going with
19:12
the flow and just making sure like
19:15
obviously I have a goal my end goal is
19:17
to obviously be Champion U but I just
19:20
wanted to have fun have as many fights
19:22
as
19:23
possible make some set some businesses
19:26
up and just be financially secure that's
19:28
my goal that's it
19:30
simple what kind of business oh
19:34
[Music]
19:38
Jinx do you know what we've just we just
19:41
set set up like a a natural supplement
19:44
company which will be launching next
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week um I've got part ownership in the
19:49
gym uh and then I just wanted I don't
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know you know I I don't know but I need
19:54
to start thinking I need to start
19:56
thinking multiple it's a good start it's
20:00
a good start yeah yeah and at least
20:01
you're thinking about it need to in this
20:06
game well Jessica's in real estate so ni
20:11
if you need if you need some property
20:13
property property is always a good
20:15
investment as well yeah for
20:17
sure sure do that with everyone else J
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than for the
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plug buy a
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house give her a Miss no oh that's it's
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smart I think a lot of people start
20:32
thinking about that a little too late so
20:35
that that's awesome that you're already
20:36
doing that what kind of supplement um
20:38
supplement company are you working so it
20:41
just be like it just be like natural
20:43
Goods like things that are like so it
20:46
won't be like proteins and stuff like
20:47
that we got like [ __ ] have you heard of
20:50
[ __ ] no not heard of that it's like
20:52
something I love it have you heard yeah
20:55
it's like for a little bit I had a
20:57
sponsorship for it yeah it comes from
20:59
the mountains it's just like minerals
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but it's like in you can have it in like
21:03
liquid form or Tire form and you put in
21:04
your coffee or hot water or something
21:06
like that um so we got that we've got
21:08
like ton Ali got seos uh black seed oil
21:14
just loads of like natural natural um
21:17
you need to get some ashwaganda up in
21:19
the mix too ashwaganda yeah Ash I use as
21:22
Granda but we haven't got that one we
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need to stop that one for sure that's
21:26
good as well write it down
21:31
start sponsoring your your upand
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cominging
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amateurs
21:41
cool all right well we don't want to
21:43
take up too much of your time but thanks
21:45
for talking with us sharing with us uh
21:48
how you're feeling and everything and we
21:51
hope you have that speedy recovery where
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are you going for your stem cell
21:54
treatment just to
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Vegas do you know what I just messaged
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CPI Scotty Nelson at CPI because I did
22:02
go there previously um so I might go to
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The Mex he's in Mexico right I might go
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there CH yeah yeah chip yeah I might go
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there and then do like two weeks at the
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pi and just just to speed up the
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recovery and stuff like that I'm
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planning to do that at the start of
22:20
February so next week maybe two weeks
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okay maybe we'll see you out there yeah
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maybe no you know I'm San Diego for sure
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I'll be in San
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Diego I'll catch you
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nice well thank you so much for your
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time we really appreciate you sharing
22:38
your story and your mindset and we
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really can't wait for you to get healthy
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and uh watching on somebody else out
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again by me all right
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man all right
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man I love hearing stories about how MMA
23:02
just um it changes people's lives I I
23:05
know it did for me you know I was on a
23:08
kind of a troubled path and I love
23:10
hearing that um it's so therapeutic and
23:13
it um one thing about MMA to is um like
23:17
Lon was saying when you go into the gym
23:18
you just have kind of like this um this
23:21
already connection because everybody's
23:22
there for the same purpose and wanting
23:24
to learn and grow and it just creates
23:25
this beautiful Bond and family type
23:28
atmosphere it's a great support system
23:30
it is I mean like I I I feel like I
23:32
don't have any like crazy story but I
23:35
just had no confidence before I started
23:37
training and then it just like made me
23:40
feel so much more comfortable in my own
23:42
skin that I like felt more like I could
23:44
handle any situation and it was really
23:47
great just being being able to find that
23:50
kind of on an accident and just falling
23:52
into that world of training and becoming
23:55
a better version of yourself so that's
23:57
really cool to here I'm glad he's not
23:58
too hurt he'll be back soon enough and
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hey maybe we'll get a visit in
24:04
February I know we got to stop him on
24:06
his way to chipsa I mean you have to you
24:08
literally have to pass by us to get
24:10
there so it do it would only be right it
24:12
would only be right yes we yank him yank
24:17
him over and hang out for a
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sec all right guys well this has been
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another episode of two straws thank you
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so much for joining us
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and we will see you next
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