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We sit down for an interview with strawweight top contender, wrassler extraordinaire and all-round cool gal Tatiana Suarez.
We talk what's next for her after an unfortunate injury setback, sparring dudes in the gym, her thoughts on teammate Sean Strickland's recent comments on WMMA and much more!
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what's up everyone welcome back to another episode of two straw two straw the finger thank you I feel like
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it's I think it's the other side I think it's the side I think you do the other side it's the other side I just saw it
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it's the okay we're gonna we're gonna see who's right we're gure
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out all right well we have um our next amazing guest we have none other than Tatiana forz we have t 23 uh winner and
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UFC strawweight Contender Miss Tatiana Tores I we're really excited to bring her into the studio right
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now here I am wait I don't know I feel like it does it like are you
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sure it's this way I don't know yes it feels weird okay as long as you guys can see me
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okay wait okay there see it's because I'm I'm right-handed I'm right-handed so I have
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to hold it with my left it's very strange okay I got it though but aren't you a southpaw are you a fake Southpaw
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oh yeah of course I'm a fake Southpaw that's why like I wish I could
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be a South I'm trying to do more Orthodox because I hit a lot harder but
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I feel like I can't move defensively when I switch to Orthodox but I'm working on it so I'll be like I'll just
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switch to Orthodox and I'll combination then I just get hit I'm like oh okay back to
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Southpaw really I have the opposite problem anytime I go to Southpaw I can throw like maybe one or two strikes and
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then I'm off balance and I'm getting tagged and I just I go back to my safe space the offense is always good when
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you switch stance but the defense is the tough part yes exactly because you're not
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comfortable yes yeah exactly so I got to just do it more often I just got to be
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okay with getting punched in the nose you know you see that a lot with uh
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wrestlers some people just never get over that so what's kind of your way of
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getting past that like some some guys are just really really good at just running their face into people so
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running their nose into people isn't as bad but then you see a lot of people crack under that pressure too when they
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have a grappling background yeah I don't know I don't mind really standing in like I'm kind of
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tough in that way like even when I even when I wrestled like I would get in fights during wrestling and stuff so
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like I'm actually perfect for it um like I don't I've never like been hit hard
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where I'm like oh I don't want to be hit here like I don't know explain it so uh I don't know I I do stand a lot like
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when I Spar and then when I fight I do the exact opposite so it's just [ __ ] I'm like why am I what did I do I'm like
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why am I shooting but then my last fight I completely was like I completely didn't I was like oh yeah
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you know I feel good and then all of a sudden I just completely forgot that I could shoot and then my coach was like
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shoot a double leg and I'm like oh okay and then I just shot and then I was like
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oh I took her down it was the weirdest thing I've never had a fight like that if you ever look at like all of my
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fights in the UFC or just in general like I always fight I always shoot within like the first couple minutes of
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the fight and not just on purpose I just do it because I'm like instinctually I like to wrestle right and so then um I
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think you know what it is it's like I kind of get bored I'm like oh I'm kind of bored here and then I'm like maybe I
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should just take him down and try to finish them that's what I do that's exactly what like my my mentality I'm like H this is kind of boring like who
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knows is winning I landed a leg kick she landed a leg kick yeah [ __ ] this and I'm like go to the ground and I'm like I
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know for sure I'm gonna win here like you know what I mean like there's like there's no low kick you low kick me like
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no like I'm gonna take you down and I'm just G to like smash you like then I know I'm winning for 100% I'm like well
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it's not rocket science to know I'm winning right now kind of thing you
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know yeah that's like that's kind of what I've been trying to hone into because I'm kind of notorious for
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getting split decisions and it's one of those things where the Optics are so
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good and people have been talk talking about Optics lately especially after the uh Strickland and dupes fight what looks
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like winning and definitely when someone's on top and pounding on someone or choking them out then that looks like
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winning exactly yeah it's easier to tell who's winning like in a fight and like
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what was really interesting to me I don't know if you ever saw the Demopolis fight versus marada you were like okay
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well that's the only time where you some people were like well I mean she won on bottom and I was like like if you look
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at the control time versus you know what I mean the damage and then you're like okay like that's kind of but like I
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don't think anybody's been able to like elow me that hard from there so I'm like you know what I mean I don't know
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explain it so I always am like able to at least look like I'm
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winning you're like I don't get it but that's what I do just keep doing what you're doing
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because it's gotten you an undefeated record and it's um I I do want to apologize I I heard you were injured and
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you know you had a big fight against limos coming up and I'm so sorry um can you speak on your injury a little bit or
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would you prefer not to um well I just like they just told me not to tell people what it is but it's like kind of
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one of those things where if you just ask anybody who trains with me they're like yeah Tana's KNE has hurt a little bit so it's like it's not a big injury
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but it's just very strange injury because like basically what happened was my knee just completely swell like got
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so swollen where like I couldn't bend it or do anything so like I couldn't all I
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could do is literally just like hit Miss and like if I go hard it starts to hurt so like I had to like tone it down and I
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can't bend my I couldn't bend my knee completely so I like couldn't do any grappling or any wrestling or any
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sparring all I could do was like hit Ms which like story of my life I've been hitting Ms for I don't know how long and
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it's like one of those things where you're like okay like all right well I just got to focus on this again like I
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don't know explain it but but the other day I did I did do boxing like I was
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like a I did boxing spark which I had told Angela I was like this is weird like I don't even know how to explain it
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I'm like if you watch all my fights I'm like more actually of a kicker so like I'm like they I forced me to like
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actually box and then I was like doing okay and I was like I was like oh hell yeah I'm like I'm Muhammad Ali like you
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know when khabib just said he's like yeah I watched Muhammad Ali before I fight now I do Jabs he just like jab the
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[ __ ] out she just jabbed Alan uh was it not Allan um who was the guy that he
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fought like last minute for the title he's a real
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yeah Al qu he's like yeah they're like yeah that jab looked great he's like yes I watch
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mahabad Ali before I fight and I'm like you know sometimes those are like
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the blessings that come from injuries is like you you're kind of put into this box and you can only do certain things
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and then you discover new tools and you know you add those things so definitely a little silver lining for it exactly
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like um kind of it's very similar like I remember when I fought Gro back in the
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day I could I had like such a bad back injury that like I couldn't do any like all I could do is footwork and all I
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could do was like I couldn't do like any striking like like um like to like any type of rotation because my back was so
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bad I don't know if any of you have back issues but mine was so bad where like like I couldn't get up out of the bed
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like I literally was like I look like a scolio scoliosis patient I like woke up I'm like oh my God I can't get I
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couldn't straighten my body so like literally I was like okay well what can I do like footwork and all I could do
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was roll like Jiu-Jitsu roll but I couldn't rustle it was the weirdest thing it was so weird and so then all I
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did was jiujitsu and I'm footwork that's it that's all I did and then when I fought her all I did was footwork and
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then wrestling I wrestled her then I just choked her real fast so then I was like the juu came in handy like it was
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kind of one of those things you know what I mean so um you're no stranger to training through injuries what made this
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one different I guess because you I couldn't do any live it was cuz I
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couldn't do any live I feel comfortable if I could at least do like one aspect of MMA like at least rolling or if I
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could rustle or if I could like do like um like make myself tired somehow you
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know what I mean like if I can't like physically train to like where I'm tired I'm like how am I supposed to go fight somebody you know what I mean like at
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least like at least if like I'm because I'm whenever I'm when I'm training all the time I train all the time like live
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like some people are like oh I only start once when I'm not in Camp and I'm like well I I mean I love toire I love
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to like go live like every single day you know what I mean um so like me not
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being able to go live just like really felt like I don't I'm not g to be physically prepared to go and fight
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somebody for their rounds you know what I mean so I need to be able to know that I'm like G to be like if I have to my my
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gas tank is going to be there you know what I mean because like I especially my style it's like I'm a I'm a wrestler you
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know so like I'm need to be like thank you um love you I need to be able to like he
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got that P oh yeah it's cat letting our dog out oh what a good guy good job good
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good dog dad a he ran out just like
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laugh he said H he said hello he doesn't even know who I'm talking to that's cool two
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straws she's talking tell so like I have to ask do you think
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that the amount of live that you're doing has anything to do with the injuries that you've sustained or do you
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just are you do you feel like it just happens like some people are more susceptible to injuries like our our
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friend Dominic Cruz he's kind of has a a track record of just getting hurt and
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really bad and not being able to be that consistent so what do you think it is with you and like sorry if that's kind
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of a rude question but I don't know I'm always trying to uh figure it out because I'm getting older I'm trying to
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train smarter and I'm trying to avoid these fit Falls that a lot of Fighters fall into I'm don't ask me no I'm just
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Kidd like I'm gonna do the opposite no I'm like I go live all the time no
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good no um I think like I just had like a really well the reason why like I had
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such a long way up was the neck I had a bad neck and then I had which just crazy because it was like a long long layout
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for that and then I was like oh I'm back I was gonna fight roxan and then I just completely blew out my entire knee and I
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was like this is just nuts cuz like it was very like random I've never even had
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any KNE injury um so I just like it was like and it was a very C catastrophic
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one like most people they like like they hurt one like ligament in their knee I
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hurt like all of them so it was like crazy so it kind of one of you know me I
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like to go hard even during my injuries I'm just twisting your knee around
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people's bodies I was like uh they're like yeah you just couldn't have this one ligament
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torn I'm like yeah I know I don't know how this happened this is crazy but yeah so I got really just very unlucky it was
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like a very crazy thing I think a lot that injury just in itself had a lot to do with just like well I just was
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beating someone and then they're like just tried to like muscle me like a guy did you know what I mean it was very similar to like what happened to Juliana
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peno's knee yeah you know very very similar where it's like and I had that
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problem sometimes because like a lot of times like we and I had talked to you about it Angela where it's like hard to
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find that Medium between like obviously like and every girl has this problem where they're like okay well I need to
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get good work but there's not there's very limited women you know and then and
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then of course and not only that but high level women right like if I'm just like beating up my opponent or like my
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my training partner because they're just not like maybe on the same skill level at the time you know sometimes we don't
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have we're not fortunate enough to be like have a skilled training partner that will push us so then we're kind of
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forced to go with men because they're going to give us you know um the skill that we need right so then I tend to
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train with men and then sometimes because like say for instance I get started getting the best of them or something then they're like oh God I got
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to turn it up and then they start doing you know like they start exploding out of things instead of like using their
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you know technique and their you know things like that so then that's when you like end up getting hurt and that's
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what's happened to me a few times like um like back in the day like I hurt my
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KNE just a little tweak it wasn't anything serious like a MCL or something you know like a small one because like some guy tried to explode out of a like
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me and their Mount and I froze it forever scarred from Mount I was like I will not go Mount if you ever watch my fight against Carla I like avoided Mount
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at all costs I'm like I'll even give you an arm bar I'm like I'm not going to mount like I'm like here's an arm bar she's
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like trying to go for the arm bar I'm like pass and I'm like like fooled you like nothing Ah that's funny you gotta
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stop being so good you gotta stop beating all your friends up and then maybe some girl people mad hurting
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e no no no I mean every like every girl fighter deals with that I'm not the only
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one like I'm sure you guys have dealt with it too right yeah no it's really annoying to deal with and it's really
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rare to find like a a male training partner that you trust that'll give you a good look he's not gonna baby you but
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he's also not going to injure you hard to find yeah but I'm assuming you and
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your uh boyfriend kind of have that or maybe not I don't I'm like no he
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beats the [ __ ] out of I mean hey I don't Spar my husband anymore but we used to
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go at it we used to go at now he just holds pads for me but well he actually
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said you know what something very strange so the first time I ever saw him was at the UFC pii right and I was like
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man I'm like watching him go with Norma Norma I
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can't yes yes yes and I was like and he was going with her and he was being so
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nice to her you know so then I was like oh man that guy's like a really good training partner like I want to go with him like if I ever train you know
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because like I didn't I thought maybe I would stay in Vegas and I was like he seems like a very good training partner
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like controlled you know so then I was like I'll go with that guy if I ever go and stay here you know and then we ended
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up like Falling in Love or Whatever whatnot and like he's very very nice to me like most of the time he'll just take
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someone's whole head off like with the guillotin like he's like yeah I was at 20% when I was doing it to you I'm like
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oh my God okay so
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romantic he did he offer to show you some moves is that how it started no
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actually no we were at we were at actually the high rollers and I was like just there and he was actually so the
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funny thing is we were watching Norma on my phone I was watching Norma's fight on my phone and he comes up and he's like
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oh is she fighting I'm like yeah and he just was like later on he told me he's like yeah I didn't really care about the fight I just wanted to talk to you I'm
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like didn't care about his training partner yeah I know
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right I think they eat like healing literally literally went with her like one time which is even funnier CU it's
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like that's how I like saw him you know what I mean but yeah yeah he uh but yeah he's very nice to me one time I did like
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get him in a tight guillotin and he got so mad at me I bet he was like he was
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like you tried to take off my whole head you like wrenched my whole face off and I was like and he's like I like I really
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thought about tapping he was like he doesn't give us Taps you know he was like I really thought about taing he's
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like that and then like could tell he kind of got mad like even him so then like I was
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like maybe I should ease up on the guillotin on him oh that's so great even though
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you're smaller it still hurts them yeah yeah it's the way yeah the you manipulate the head especially like so I
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kind of like it's really weird like so a lot of people if you ever real like
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especially women like a lot of them that aren't that like great at Guillotines and I happen to be like pretty decent at
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them because I wrestled for a long time and I like like did front headlocks all
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the time like mad front headlocks like that was my number one takedown like I'd snap you down from your feet to like
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like even high level wrestling like when you got like you know most people are like well you have to evolve you got to start shooting more you know it's like I
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still was like World level just snapping people down and like getting front headlocks like like one time I made some
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girl tap like at the world are like does she win does she lose what happens like they don't even know what to happen so
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like but like then I was like oh yeah you know I met Pat and he happened to be
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very good at Guillotines and I'm like my soulmate also is good at guillotin like just
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the wow it was meant to be we're like similar like we're similar built like
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he's like long skinny like big upper body like small legs like same very
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similar to me I'm like well at least we know what our kids are gonna look like they're just they're just G to come out of the
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womb like grabbing someone's head yeah oh for sure maybe it'll be twins they'll just be like no doll is
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safe oh man but yeah no it's just very very strange but yeah um your your if
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you ever had kids they would just go and head kick somebody like yeah pretty much there'll be a lot of kicks in the belly
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for sure like when I'm carrying it just boom boom boom kicks in the belly yeah
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push kicking you you do have a decent push kick
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yeah man you need to come through and uh get some training partners aren't going to explode your knee you know you can
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help me with my help push kicks it's actually very weird because like when I injured my knee it was like not like a
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catastrophic thing like it was literally like something like that I do all the time so like that like even Heather was
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because I had told Heather like I came in I like a blown up Mee and I came and she's like what happened I'm like all I
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did it was roll I don't even get it like we were all perplexed and then like the amount of swelling that I had they were
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like oh there probably has to be something wrong like you're meniscus or something you know and I was like yeah she's like you just be positive I'm like
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yeah okay and I'm like walking out I'm like I'm like yeah probably my menus is still there too and she's like I don't
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think so like she like got like for sure it was torn you know and then I like come back the next day and she's like
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you were right it's not she's like I'm so confused cuz it's like really swollen you know what I mean like it was very
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swollen so they for sure thought like something was like something wrong with it so then I was like uh she's like yeah
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she's like I don't get it I don't understand and then they drained my knee I had 400 cc's of fluid in it and you're
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only supposed to have three wow yeah three period not 300 no three period
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three oh my go is three I had 400 they're like yeah no
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wonder your knee hurts so bad and like I was like yeah I don't know what's wrong
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with it it was very weird and then uh then they gave me like um stem like a
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stem cell shot in my knee to help you know inflammation and stuff like that and I so I'm like okay I don't know I'm
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just weird I don't know so I had the bad reaction to it so then my knee swoll up
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again like with mad fluid and they were like it looked so bad that like Heather was like oh my God like I sent her a
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picture I'm like is this normal and then she's like oh my God she's like that is not normal and like I was like really
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upset cuz like it went we drained the knee you know so it was feeling better I was like oh you know maybe I can go live
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next week you know I was all excited and then they put the stem cell and it just
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completely swell up and they were like oh no like that's not good you know
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they're like oh we might need to drain that thing again because it was just so big like like it looked gross it looked
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like a bad boob job you were having a baby in your knee yeah it was it was
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sick and then but then um you know it like slowly went away like over like a
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period of like six days so but yeah so I don't know hopefully I can go live like
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super super soon I don't know I'm I'm hoping that I can go live like like like
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wrestling grappling something like that because Tatiana without grappling is just like
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depressed yeah how do you keep such a positive mindset like through all of these injuries like what keeps you
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straight um I think I'm like a naturally optimistic person in general but um I
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think like I think I just like well if I don't it's like you have to survive you
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know life is hard so it's just kind of one of those things where I'm like well I just have to like focus on the things
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I can control and um like you said earlier you know how like I told you I could box like I was able to box the
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other day it's like I like things like that like are highlights for me like I'm like oh okay well I might not be able to
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like go and do like grappling which I love to do but at least I can get a little bit better at like boxing
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something that I'm not normally like you I don't normally do it you know and then I mean I did enjoy it but I'm I'll tell
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you like boxing is different
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because so sore have you had that where you just like your biceps are like
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literally like you don't know what to do I try to do a pullup which I'm pretty decent at pull-ups and like I was like
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struggling I was on The Struggle Bus I'm like three was hard and I could do usually a lot more oh man I was like oh
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man like boxes are different but you know I guess that will make me stronger you know at like I guess my shoulders my
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biceps will get stronger I was like Becky I was like I'm weak I am weak I'm like my biceps are sore were you
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throwing hay makers Adam I just it was just more volume you know like yeah
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because I've been I've been working on like volume because I'm like naturally throw everything like a power
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I don't know why I do it like n like Nate's like Nate's like hey just a light jab I'm like all right and then all of a
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sudden it's like like super loud pop he's like I said light jab I'm like yeah I'm trying my
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hardest it's just not in your DNA it's so bued up too because I'm like
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I'm like okay be fast be slick and I'm like B like hard and I'm like oh [ __ ]
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but I'm getting better guys I'm getting better nice that is a wrestler trait though you know you guys have such good
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overhands because you have that good like weight shift and you're able to put a lot of power into everything so have a
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horrible overand do you that's that's surprising like I have a good straight
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okay yeah like I have a decent straight like people are like we don't know it just comes out of nowhere it's like we
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see it they're like we see that it's coming and then Boop it's so straight and then it just hits you and I'm like
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yeah really I'm like okay sick thank you is it hard to take compliments uh yes
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I'm not like I'm not yeah like just in general like if if you ever like tra with me they' be like oh good job blah
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blah blah and I'm like thanks like you know like earlier today like I saw Jess
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uh Jessica's video about the introvert and I'm like that's me oh I have so many more coming I'm like people always talk
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crap about how I am at the gym but I'm like I have social anxiety I'm an introvert I'm I'm not just like I'm not
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just a [ __ ] like oh I'm just really award so
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much okay I have a story about this okay so one day somebody was like super
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excited to meet me right and they're like oh I'm so excited to meet her blah blah blah I come mind you I come into
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the gym and I have like I'm like hi bti and then he's like hi and then like the person's next to him and I just like
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walk past and I go but not like cuz I don't know that person you know so I walk past and then they're they're like
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oh man I was excited she didn't say anything to me and he's like don't worry she does this every day she just walks
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by she gets everything set up and then she comes back and she'll be super
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talking and watch and he's like okay okay and then I did exactly that I like I came back like I like did everything I
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wanted to do I like got comfortable with my environment and came back I just started talking like like you know like
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I always feel like I'm talking to you right now it's it's like super friendly and stuff like that but it just takes me
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like a while to get comfortable like in my environment to be talkative like but I'm I am very friendly I'm just like but
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you have to know me like some people are like I thought Tatiana hated me and I'm like I hate nobody like I just I'm like
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very nice you know what I mean so I'm like I don't hate any I don't hate anybody I'm like and if you do if I don't like you like like you're not my
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cup of tea I just won't like really talk to you you know what I mean but like I don't hate people you know so but it's
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just really funny because like the introvert thing I'm like that's me for sure like I like somebody will be around
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me I'm like should I ask them to train I'm like like I'm like going like this with my foot you know like like I don't
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know but oh yeah that's the next kit that's
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coming I'm so bad like Pat's so good about like ask like he's like I don't know how to explain it he's like injured
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but not introvert I'm like I don't know Comfort person yeah but we're both the same like
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after the after after we're done like with our training like we're the only ones like everybody's like listening to
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like the coach like he's like having the speech and stuff and like me and Pat just like walking in circles like like
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we're like circling our prey or something we're like so serious we're
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like uh you're just competitors I think that's what it is it's like serious and like in the zone Z
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right we get in the zone and then like afterwards we're Goofy and like very similar in that sense but like when
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we're at practice we're definitely like very zon zoned in and like just kind of like to ourselves you know yeah but but
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he'll ask anybody to train like one time some guy got off the plane and he had he literally walked into our gym and he's
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like hey do you want to train and like asked the guy if he wanted to go roll and he literally just got done with
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practi like Pat was just got done with practice the guy just got off the plane like didn't even have like had bags packed and everything like was just like
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he's like hey you want to want to train I would never do that never oh that's that's that like
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confidence that you can just control anyone even if they're crazy and on meath you
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know I think as as women we have to be a little more careful yeah like they'd be
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like the [ __ ] [ __ ] are you calling me out yeah yeah oh that's true
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too like like they'd be like what say what you want to fight me
28:07
what but uh no but yeah so I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm definitely like you Jessica very
28:13
inverted like people I like they'll be I have that documentary coming out about me you know and they did that like cool
28:19
trailer and I was like well thank god it's great it's because it's not it's like I was like I was happy about the trailer because it was not me like
28:25
talking a lot like usually if if I'm talking a lot I'm like I can't watch this like like I can't do it like I
28:32
cannot watch my own interviews I can't do none of that like that is not not gonna watch this
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one I'll listen to it we're tagging you in the clip so you'll see it okay oh my
28:46
god oh no I'm be like ah what did I say that it's always really hard for me to
28:52
edit the footage of like the the two straw stuff because I have to listen to my voice
28:57
don't like the voice the the like everything everything I know okay we're we're all
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like that no I hate listening to my voice too it's it's
29:11
horrible the laugh is even worse especially when it's a real laugh not a fake laugh and it's just I like good I
29:19
like a good like you know like a a good solid laugh like someone who has like a
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real good laugh I think great laugh thanks I hate when people have like
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these fake laughs like that's cute that's unoffensive that's an unoffensive female laugh just
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go I've been told I have a cackle so you do I do I love it though it's terrible
29:47
is terrible so great sometimes I'll laugh and then that be like why you laughing like that I'm like I don't tell
29:54
you that when you laugh crazy I you know what I can't even imagine him laughing every video and
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interview I've seen of him he's just dead pan very serious very stoic so we don't know the
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path that you know oh he is something else he is something
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different he is he is funny like very very funny so that's why it's funny that like you're right in his like videos
30:24
like I'm like oh my god he has like a different pers like if I were to guess his his zodiac I'd be like you're a
30:30
Gemini but he's a Leo ah which makes sense which makes so much sense he's
30:37
completely Leo he's very like confident very like look at me like you know he's
30:43
like look at me he's like look at me do this cool choke I'm like okay Pat no
30:48
no but I wouldn't want to watch anybody else do a choke so it's all
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right what are you yeah mine yeah I'm a
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Sagittarius okay the luckiest of the zodiac okay yeah real
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[Laughter] lucky I've heard that before too I'm
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like are you kidding me I'm unlucky no your luck is in another form
31:18
but I swear they're the luckiest of the zodiac I don't know anything what why do you say that I don't know anything about
31:25
Sagittarius well I guess they're supposed to be luy but what I do yeah well you know they
31:30
are optimistic and that is me okay but guess what okay so I'm gonna try to
31:37
guess your guys' signs I feel like maybe wait I already know yours actually
31:43
that's cheating I know bir because your birthday is you're a Capricorn yes
31:52
I yeah actually you do kind of if you see her work in training ethic you like you know she's a Capricorn okay well
31:59
that makes sense supposed be like really uh stubborn Harding Harding yeah very hardworking
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but that's that makes sense because like loyal see Sagittarius are very loyal
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people too actually okay I'm very honest they say which I like that because I am very
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honest and like I pride myself in being honest you know what I mean like who doesn't want someone who's honest you
32:25
sure but um but I think that Jessica
32:31
probably I would say you're like an Aquarius or something
32:37
wow are you good job a that makes sense
32:43
see I only know that one because it's the one after Capricorn okay so you're
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soon so you're soon when's your birthday January 30th oh okay all right see
32:55
that's weird Okay I have a Aquarius Moon ah nice I have a Virgo Moon and a
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Capricorn sun or Rising oh wow so that's where you get your hard
33:09
work maam so my advising is Virgo
33:16
okay Virgo yeah they're very like uh they pay attention to detail a lot and
33:23
they're very and like I have a lot of Capricorn in my chart because I'm on the cus so like I'm the 19th of December so
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I have a lot of traits actually so I was supposed to be on the born on the 20th but my grandma was like I don't want her
33:36
born on the 20th Lisa you better start pushing because I guess that's fair that's fair I get that
33:43
no I totally get that because she okay so the reason why is my her so her
33:51
sister-in-law was born on the 20th and she did not like my sister or her sister-in-law so she was like Lisa if
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she's born on her birthday I'm going to be so upset you better start pushing so I was born at
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10:44 on that on on December 19th you know I have a really similar story only
34:11
my mom my mom held me in her cooch just so I wouldn't have the same
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birthday as my father so Dad birthday is the 11 and she was like nope she's
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getting her own birthday on ni that's so thoughtful of her she's the
34:31
most she's a Virgo she's so thoughtful she's always thinking about other people always on time she's very much un likee
34:38
her daughter I don't get I don't get I don't get that tree I I didn't get that Virgo
34:44
tra it must be the science because it's not genetic that's how I feel about if I had
34:51
a somebody that was I I would avoid having a Pisces can't stand Pisces
34:56
terrible why what are they terrible past experence they're so sensitive so emotional I'm like I will not you want
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to know who's a Pisces tell me Sean Strickland
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ah can we talk I wanted to ask you about that because I saw your I saw your
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um I saw your little Saucy comment on the post not Saucy it was actually very
35:23
Democratic and I I applauded that because I wanted to say something anous but
35:28
uh heinous yeah like I was mad but Sean Strickland's um one of the posts that
35:37
they posted of his interview where he was bashing women's MMA and saying like nobody wants to watch it you said like
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the funniest thing you said he's lying he watches a spar every day at practice
35:50
so I wanted to know your thoughts about that and have you had a chance to kind
35:56
of need need him about that yet or do you just okay I haven't seen him yet but
36:03
trust me me and me and me and Sean have had so many arguments and like at this
36:08
point in time like I just ignore him like as if like you know like you know when your dog does something bad and
36:14
you're like oh I can't I can't do I can't say anything because if he if like
36:20
not not say anything but like like say for instance he's like begging your dog is begging you're like you address him
36:25
then it shows your dog like oh when they beg I give you attention so then that's they're going to beg more you know what
36:31
I mean like that's kind of how sean is like if he says something like so it like shocks you you're like oh my God
36:37
and then you say something he's like oh I got a reaction and then he just like keeps going on you know what I mean so
36:43
like now I don't even really like I don't really say anything to Sean really anymore but he he like has his own you
36:50
know like I I like know him well enough I've known him since like he like I've
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known him for a long time since like maybe 2014 12 13 you know what I mean so I've
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known him for a long time and he at this he said something crazy he said some crazy things like over the span of time
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that I've known him and I just kind of just like I know him by now where I'm like oh okay yeah okay Sean but yeah you
37:13
know like he he he doesn't really even mean that like to be honest like because
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he watches women all the time and like he'll give them pointers and like watch them you know what I mean like watches
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us and like or he'll and not only that but he'll be like Tatiana can you help me with some wrestling and I'm like
37:37
no I'm like but it's just funny like I mean um but like he would he would ask
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me he's humble enough to ask me so I know he doesn't really even feel that way and like he's told me before like
37:48
man I like strong women like cuz he's like with his girlfriend and she's a strong woman I guess and he's like I
37:54
love strong women so he doesn't even mean what he say so like when I read that I was just like that's why I said
37:59
I'm like you're lying Sean don't Li don't be lying you know like he's like I think more so he said it because the
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girl picked against him because what the girl picked against
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him like if you had if you heard the first part of it he she was like oh Raquel Pennington picked against you but
38:18
and then like she like what do you think about the co-main event then he started going off you know what I mean so like I
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think it was an emotional response to her picking against him okay he has said
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stuff in the past though like he had a shirt on that said wom in the kitchen don't I said something to him the other
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day I was like what in the 1600 is this [ __ ] like I he loves that what is it
38:42
1770 something he loves that whole idea of
38:48
like old America and make America great again and all that stuff but it is refreshing to hear that he loves strong
38:55
women so he does do he does he would probably he'd probably be like hey he'
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probably like hey Angela show me that bush that he would do that like you know what
39:05
I mean and I that's why I don't really buy into the whole I don't think women should fight thing like you know what I
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mean like I think he was just emotional because he's a Pisces and he was just
39:16
like he was like she shouldn't be on the card she picked against me we've actually been in the same sping
39:23
room with him because he likes to bounce around the different gems whoever wherever um and uh yeah there
39:31
there was a time where I was sparing tabichi and he was giving REI advice against me and then another time where
39:38
he was just yelling the entire time me and Jess sping it was very obnoxious so
39:44
it it's funny when you said the ignoring thing I'm like yeah if he was around more often that's totally the way to
39:50
approach that type of person it happened that one time that he
39:55
came through just like you know what there's no one over
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there exctly just you're just like ignore it ignore it or like um like for
40:06
instance what happened the other day oh like he had said something to one of my friends and he was like you want to know
40:12
I she always beat you and this and that I'm like you don't say those things like
40:18
and I'm like and then like I had to like go over to my friend and be like don't listen to him and I'm like you know what I mean like I just had to like I was
40:25
like it already feels like [ __ ] when you didn't have a great practice or something that someone's like you know she'll always beat you if you you know I
40:33
mean so like but I just like you get you get what you get with him and you just
40:39
know it you know what I mean I'm like he's not even there he doesn't even exist but regardless I was I was hoping
40:47
that he would win the fight though so what are your um now that
40:52
you're healing up and everything are you looking towards the future at all or are
40:57
you just kind of taking it day by day seeing how your knee feels um yeah I'm
41:03
like taking it day by day right now but um I do want to fight soon so we'll see
41:08
like how everything plays out I don't know what's going to happen it's kind of weird because you know how our division
41:13
like always locked up sometimes and then you're like well who can I fight and um
41:19
that sort of thing and then especially because I'm like high up there um in the rankings and they don't usually like
41:27
give you just random people you know it's like usually like someone who's going to
41:32
catapult you into like a title shot or whatever so then I feel like right now especially the division I'm like Well
41:39
everybody's kind of lined up with with somebody as and like I mean um the only
41:45
person and then like like someone's either pregnant they have a fight or like just had a baby um you know what I
41:53
mean those kind of things and you're like oh are there 25 for some
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reason I don't I don't know who you're who's still a 15er right
42:08
now I don't know what you know I was actually kind of um like it was kind of
42:13
weird that I I had seen that because I was like I had asked to have a couple fights at 125 because like I'm not a
42:19
small 115 pounder so I could definitely go up to like 125 once in a while you know I wouldn't cut weight much like
42:26
maybe like a couple pounds but it's like I mean I could still fight there and you know what I mean have some fights and
42:33
this was when I um like just came off of my injury you know that's why I fought Montana at 125 because I was like okay I
42:39
just want to fight get a like a a good fight and they gave me her name and she said yes and I was like okay perfect and
42:45
I had asked if I could do like more fights there and he's like well you know we'd want you to like either stay at
42:50
1115 or 1225 and I was like okay well I'm gonna go 115 because that's like my natural weight class I just feel faster
42:57
there you know like at 125 I definitely feel slower and fatter but um at 115 I'm
43:04
like I'm a cat I'm smooth like I don't know5 I'm like I don't know what I'm
43:10
like I look fat I don't look like a professional athlete at that weight class but it's okay oh that's hilarious but uh yeah but
43:18
then they told me I had to stay at one WG class but then I keep seeing some people do it and I'm like why do they
43:23
get to do it yeah yeah I saw um well well no I I don't want to
43:31
switch weight classes but it is interesting how some people are allowed to bounce back and forth but then others
43:37
I think they made Rose pick one and she went to 125 but then she's fighting
43:44
Rebus who is able to do both yeah so you kind of wonder why that happens but I
43:52
think I think also if they feel like you have title potential then they want you to stick to that weight class so you
43:58
have a stronger case and just get right up in there yeah that's what I was thinking because like heus just came off a win in the like top you know 10 so I
44:06
thought maybe she would have another fight at 115 I thought that made sense but then she went up to 1 145 and I was like what
44:13
does this mean yeah and then she was like calling out I mean she was like oh maybe I should fight um she wanted to
44:21
fight Carla and I was like I don't know Carla like I'm like Carla just had a
44:26
baby yeah car alone I'm like dude I'm like she's
44:32
working on her pelvic floor right now we were oh my God us know when she wants to come back
44:39
yeah I I think that was strategic Ras was like I'm not trying to jump back in there anytime soon give me like nine
44:46
months before I get a f book so car how about yeah I know I don't I I don't know
44:53
what's happening it's okay though uh but yeah no I mean I don't know what's gonna happen then so I'm kind of confused
44:59
right now but I really want to fight soon you know I was hoping to fight this fight I just I had asked to postpone it
45:06
so because I felt like I could fight like maybe March or something like I really did I was like I just need a
45:12
couple weeks of live like I don't need much you know what I mean I just need a couple and then they're like oh well we
45:17
can't make her wait you know we're going to ask her and then so then you know I don't think she she wants to get paid
45:23
you know I understand that so I'm like yeah you know what I mean I'm not going to expect her to say yes like oh I'll
45:28
wait for you you know so and then plus all the cards were full and stuff so they just there was no like um like
45:36
there was nothing you know like they could say like okay we could put you on 300 or you know what I mean so it's kind
45:42
of one of those things where like she probably was like I don't know I don't want to risk it who knows when she's you know what I mean when we'll be able to
45:47
get on a card or whatever may be so she just really just switched up opponents but I'm just going to train [ __ ] it I'm
45:55
going to get better I mean there is a chance you can jump the ladder now that that fight's on the
46:02
way wh versus an and Yan's on the way you already beat Carla like there isn't
46:07
really anyone in your way without having to take this fight so that's that's a possibility too yeah I really didn't
46:16
chill don't train on your injured knee just let it heal up rest up heal up you
46:22
got time you're young yeah you know I was like I really didn't want to do that though I really
46:28
wanted another fight you know before like I don't know I just like to fight like you know what I mean I just happen
46:33
to freaking I got injured and I was like man I can't I don't want to that's what I was afraid of like I was afraid that
46:40
like say I did fight with this and then it wasn't ready and then like I pushed because I know how I am I train really
46:46
hard so like if I like really push it to get in there and like really you know what I mean before the 20 what or the
46:52
17th of February I just didn't want to like reinjure it where it's like something actually bad like you know
46:57
what I mean where I have to be out for a while like that's the last thing I wanted just wanted to be i' rather be
47:02
safe than sorry like be like it was nothing but then I turned it into something because I pushed and I try to
47:08
go back too quickly because I was like eager to get in there and Spar and do other stuff you know what I mean so but
47:15
right now I'm just going to focus on getting better and then whatever comes like whatever happens happens and I'll
47:21
be ready and um I'm just not going to get too fat
47:26
stop [Laughter] it boing you'll be
47:34
good at least my biceps are just gonna be like pumped I don't even know what's gonna happen shredded shredded biceps
47:42
yeah so I don't know but yeah I'm I'm um yeah I'm just like it is what it is um
47:50
but yeah what are you do you have a fight no not yet still waiting I was mad
47:56
they called McKenzie but I already fought limo so I understood but I wanted
48:01
that rematch that was the one I wanted so I literally thought they were gonna call you I was hoping I had I said it in
48:09
my postf fight speech I was like I want to fight lios I want that rematch anyone else I'm cool with but that's the
48:15
rematch I want and they called Dar I have to get knocked out I'm like okay I see what you guys are doing well I
48:22
honestly thought they were gonna call you because they saw your rap
48:27
oh really like that's viral come
48:35
on that's so funny I thought I thought Nick had the WAP in his head and was like oh I gotta call Angela you know I
48:42
really thought that was round and pound that's my new see and it was perfect timing too because I'm like I'm a
48:48
Grappler now I'm not even I'm not even gonna bother striking with people
48:54
anymore I'm just going to take them all down so I did notice that she tried to do Guillotine on you and you passed the
49:01
guard you passed her you passed the legs over easy easy I I was trying to set up
49:08
the Von flu but unfortunately I didn't have the angle right she was gurgling though for a
49:15
second so that's that's something she might set up on you so keep your eyes open just give her your neck for a
49:21
second she's not gonna she's not gonna get it Michelle for sure oh I yeah you know I saw that I
49:28
saw that I was like uh I was I was a little worried because I was like not worried but I was like thinking to
49:34
myself oh I think I can pretty much I think I can take her down because uh I saw that Michelle had taken her down so
49:41
I thought to myself oh you know I'm like I could do it you know what I mean like I was like oh I could take her down
49:47
that's what if she can do it I can I was like take her to pound town I'm just kidding
49:54
exactly ground to pound
50:00
funny but yeah so anyways what about you
50:05
Jessica I'm still I'm still injured I've been trying to heal a seso fracture
50:11
naturally which uh I wish I had known that it would take so long I probably would have had surgery right away but um
50:17
I had a I was almost healed and I had a setback in August so I'm still um yeah
50:24
I'm still trying to heal but I'm almost there you're almost there right yeah I'm almost there like not too far just can't
50:31
do anything stupid like I did last time oh what's it what what is it called that you injured um I have a fracture in my
50:39
sesamoid so it's this really teeny tiny little bone bone on the bottom of your
50:45
foot so it gets no circulation and it's weightbearing and it is just it's a
50:50
[ __ ] to heal um I all I could think when you said weightbearing and it
50:55
doesn't get a lot of blood flow I'm like oh my God that sounds like a nightmare because when it doesn't get blood flow it's harder to
51:01
heal yeah and so um my body's like my body's like filling in the the break but
51:08
it's just still not completely filled in so I'm hoping next month's x-ray will get me back on the mat because I'm going
51:16
crazy see look at see that's cool hopefully next month yeah yeah but you
51:22
are getting strong though Jess has been lifting I am strong qu she's Quadzilla right now so I'm
51:29
scared I don't fit into any of my pants I need I need to do some cardio yeah she
51:36
she got a pony right now she's scared of her getting back on the mats and tossing
51:41
me around so so hopefully oh that's good see that
51:46
was me for a couple years all I could do was lift I was like oh my God this is boring I was it was so boring I'm like I
51:54
just want to like I want to punch something I want to like you know make I kind of want to make somebody have a bad day like I just that is that so much to
52:02
ask yeah I want to make them call their mom like Tey you know yeah have Strickland
52:10
pop up she's always gonna beat you like you want that every now and
52:16
then like you want some dick dick just hype you up real quick right like every now and then you
52:23
want someone to pop out and just be a dead on your beh on your yeah every now and
52:31
then it's always do you know why She'll always ruin your day stop stop save it save it for after
52:39
she leaves just tell me that yeah don't tell
52:46
her oh that's great that's great oh you're funny yes
52:53
s manifesting it I'm like I'm so excited to get back on a mat it's been it's been
52:58
so long but yeah that's good well thank you so much for coming on the show we don't want to keep you too much longer
53:05
um really appreciate all of your your time and all of your you know everything that you've shared really appreciate it
53:11
thank you thank you for having me on I I mean I do talk a lot I'm sorry so I probably no it's great it makes our job
53:18
easy I felt like we were just chatting you know you're like she you're like
53:24
introvert what do you mean IID it it takes the right people to bring it Jess swears I'm an extrovert but I'm not
53:31
that's why I have her around me all the time I'm like she's my emotional support human without her just like I'm like
53:38
barel I like hiss at people barel and I'm I'm super quiet when I
53:46
don't know anyone I just I I get nervous I overthink like the introduction or
53:51
just saying anything and if I'm around my friends I look more more like loud and boisterous but if I'm not I'm just
54:01
like just like my dog my shy dog just I sure what to say you're like
54:08
looking you know how the dogs always do the side they're like yes my dog has the
54:14
best side eye he's known for it my dog's oh no he let him out but my
54:19
dog I was hoping he would jump on the the bed real quick before he left but he
54:24
I guess he doesn't care about me anymore I don't know no he's got a doggy dad now I know he was all excited to go with his
54:32
dad I'm like dude what about me I'm up here old news mom I know right he's like
54:39
I have a cool dad Tes me a
54:45
lot no they like to like Pat likes to snuggle with him like he likes like he
54:51
yeah he likes like snuggly with him he's like look at him isn't he a great dog and like Rosco's just like his whole
54:57
head is like right here and he's like isn't he just the best but then he like Rosco does this he put his head here but
55:03
then he'll roll around like you know like back and forth and Pat's like dude
55:08
I'm trying to relax I just did 5,000 rounds at you just thr and you're just moving
55:15
so see that sounds more like the pat that I've seen in the interviews and
55:22
stuff not fun thing though but then he be like look at him isn't he great he's
55:27
so cute I'm like yeah he is very cute it's a super that's amazing is is your
55:33
dog originally and now he has dog dad or did you get him no actually we got him together Pat wanted a dog so I was like
55:39
yeah let's get a dog and we got Rosco and actually he's um my old my old dog
55:45
um well my dog I gave him to my old my little brother his name's strudel I gave him to my brother because at the time I
55:52
couldn't have dogs so I was like well what better person to give him to than my brother who like loves and I know
55:57
he'll have a good home you know what I mean so he went with my brother and they love him so much that on his Amazon gift
56:05
list for the Christmas he wanted to get that like Furbo thing that like shoots Out treats and it's like a camera oh I
56:13
love those I always want one because yeah whenever I have a long day out I want to like treat him right exactly
56:23
so huh he's not fat are you calling him fat he
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he no he's not he's 50 pounds of boy did he say he's a big boy he is lean
56:37
he can jump high he's lean he can jump high he just has he head so it makes his
56:45
belly look bigger oh what are those dogs so my grandma has a dog like that yeah so my
56:52
grandma's dog has a head like that and it's super funny cuz she just has like a tiny head and a big belly it's just
56:58
really funny she looks like I don't know I love her Pat loves her actually he's like we need a good like when we were
57:04
gonna get a dog he's like we need a good dog like Ray her name is Ry like r y he's like we need a good dog like Ray
57:11
isn't she perfect and she's like this weird she's so weird looking she's like scraggly and like but she's so cute you
57:18
know like this dogs are like weird but they're cute yeah like her I know she's he loves her she's like
57:26
she has like a wired hair it's like wi hair but it's long you know oh is it uh
57:31
is it like those uh what are those Mexican dogs called like
57:38
hairless oh the hairless dos yeah those are cool I really want one of those she
57:43
has like you know how they have the top hair where it's like wiry yeah it's like that so all her hair is kind of like
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wire hair dog yeah but she's like but she and she's like one size she looks
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like a submarine with a peanut head little burrito dog yeah look like a burrito oh
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that's great oh but anyways all right I gotta go but I
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will we can talk about dogs all day I know like if I stay here we're just
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we're never gonna get up I need to go eat something or something but um thank you guys for having me on yeah thanks
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for coming and good luck with the rehab okay I um thank you I was gonna say oh
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good luck to you too on your rehab and hopefully you get a fight soon
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an yay thanks all right bye guys bye bye
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bye oh my God I love her she's so funny she's so adorable and F we have to have
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her on again I already want her on again oh yes oh yes when we when she gets that new fight announcement we're gonna beg
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her for an exclusive yes I'm bring some popcorn and wine next time too so I'm properly
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prepared for our session yes I have my little drinky drink so I was like girl
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tell me more you know and then
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what yeah she's it's so easy when you have someone who's willing to just like kind of open up and tell you things
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because all you have to do is ask about what happened next and yeah she's pay a
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whole picture but it's cool to hear her whole process uh how she trains how
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she's recovering through the injury um and you know it's refreshing when people
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are also frustrated with the way that things are going uh circumstances and
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whatnot and and uh yeah everyone's
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human Terminators like Tatiana [Laughter]
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Suarez all right guys well thank thank you so much for joining us we will see you next time all right guys peace
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