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Two Straws on Fightpass! A victory lap interview with Molly McCann
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Nov 6, 2024
Jessica Penne and Angela Hill talk with Meatball Molly McCann as she takes her victory lap after a very successful strawweight debut! In this episode Molly shares what it took to make the 115lbs limit, her experience with Cognitive Behavioral Therapy and her path to healing, who she wants to fight next and more! 1:21 -Molly discusses her weight cut to 115lbs 3:33 -F*** it! 10:31 - Cognitive Behavioral Therapy 15:26 - The highs and lows of being an athlete 22:40 - The differences between flyweight and strawweight 29:39 - The highlight of Molly’s strawweight debut 38:48 - Molly doesn’t have time for the haters 43:47 - Making it known who she wants next🍿 45:28 - Girl talk
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all right I think it's perfectly up it keeps popping out no it keeps and then I can't tell which way when when you do
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that yeah it does before you touched it it was perfect it's CU I keep trying to fix the wrong side because it's not a
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mirror it's a it's a thing you got a mirror girl that's the only way that's why you keep messing up the two straws
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thing hey it's us two straws I think you had I think that's it
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oh no you go you did an intro go go yeah that's my thing uh we have a really special guest um our good friend
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training partner and now fellow straw weight we have a meatball Molly McCain
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and we're GNA bring her onto the stage right now hello lovely hello guys Hi how are
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you doing what time is it over there it's 800 p.m. I've had a nice roas in
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I've had a nice milkshake get be back up to fly away no
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no no no no no but I've enjoyed I didn't enjoy making 115 for the first time but
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it'll be easier the second I think I say what was your process did you rely on
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the pi a lot did you Dy it down like where did you come from if you don't mind us asking so I was 63 kilo at my
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heaviest which would probably been about 140 and then I think that's a video that
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you put on on yeah you felt late well felt like way like I was like not not
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too she's just a good training partner she knows how to like you know loaded
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you loaded yourself on me and but I think on fight
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week on the on the Sunday when I started to
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watero I was like s pound over and then I I stayed on carbs the
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whole week um I three times on the thday and the night before I cut two and a
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half pound slept a pound off so I only cut three and a half really the day
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before that's beautiful that's an amazing I finally had ABS see them oh we
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saw them girl that's all we were staring at Angela wasn't even watching you fight she was just watching the ABS that's
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what you said was yeah you said I'm more impressed with Molly's OBS than the
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armar oh you muted
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yourself you're still muted there you go there you go there you go
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me were popping I was so impressed because it's not something that you've
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had before like when's the last time you had ABS I must have been about seven
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malnourished you know when when everyone was that broke no had food growing up yeah like like then yeah yeah no I know
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those abs I've had those abs that's amazing I mean you had to
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have been impressed with yourself not just with your performance but your physique and your ability to get in to
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straw weight fight shape yeah I think G is like I just I I think you know with me
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and Patrick we always fight for the fans and it's always about Liverpool and it's always there's so much pressure and I
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think I just thought [ __ ] it I'm only fighting for myself now like no one else
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matters like you might have have had this kind of moments in your career
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where so the penny just drops and you just think like thaty it's all about me now I'm going to be selfish I'm not
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going to care about anyone else it's my career and I'm doing doing it and I
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think you see like the whole fight week I was just different I was just I'm not going to be emotional everyore anymore
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I'm just cold and that's me from now on I like that you got to give yourself
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permission at times you know yeah how um what what where did that
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shift come from did you come to that on your own did you get like any guidance
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or anything like that to prepare mentally or yeah that yeah do you know I actually don't a lot of um therapy for
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this after me lost fight I done a lot of therapy and it was PTSD therapy for for
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athletes so if you imagine when we get beat the the level of like I know it's
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not but we would feel it as athletes the level of humiliation and shame that we would feel is like so high and um and
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like the the shame and the the trauma like I remembered I was getting contracts for fights and being so
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[ __ ] scared to lose especially when they was in England I be like that oh
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and then I wouldn't even enjoy the camp and I wouldn't really enjoyed the fight that's why when I would win I'm that
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ecstatic because that's that much stress is off my shoulders but I I worked with
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this guy called Martin and um and he really helped me through and we kind of
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cleared the blockage and the trauma cycle I I kept feeling and it felt like do you remember girls
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in tough when you probably went into tough and you was like I'm going to be the next world champion and everything
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was new and flashy and you was just like I've got this and and you just enjoyed it like I felt like I was back there I
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felt like I was back at the beginning and um and maybe because it was at straw
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weight it was a fresh start and that's how I feel like I've kind of got through it it's funny you said that because my
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journal says exactly that from I kept a journal and tough because they took away all our books all our media we couldn't
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watch TV so I kept journal for a first time and it's legit those silly little
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delusional thoughts that get a lot of people to the top get a lot of people to being undefeated and when you lose that
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it's really hard to get that back so it's really cool that you uh started doing sports therapy I I actually
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started doing Sports Therapy too and um going into a fight with the proper tools
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is such a big advantage over the person that you were without them yeah I think
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if not the way he was explain it explaining it to me is like you're just
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stuck in the cycle of trauma consistently and what we actually came to realize is my trauma comes from
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obviously most combat athletes bless you on and most combat athletes have a
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really traumatic upbringing and um and I think there's been loads of studies that endurance
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athletes and combat athletes had really traumatic Beginnings to life that's why
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they can keep pushing through like the hard part of training and competition
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and it basically was like daddy issues for me um he just said like your abandonment issues from a
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child attached themselves to fighting so when you'd be in the gym and compete and
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do something right you'd feel a connection with your coach because they'd be like well done well
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done and that was like when you felt content and felt happy so when you
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started fighting and you lost you'd feel like how you did as a kid when kind of nobody
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saw you or you was you felt them abandonment um like that trauma so it
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was like we need to we'll go to work first on the fight and then we'll go back to the trauma of being a kid and
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what you went through and I'm Waking it through all that I kept being like in that fight Camp [ __ ] hell I'm really
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not nervous here like I'm I'm sleeping eight hours a night where normally I know you have had it especially on them
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big Pay-Per-View fight cards or against an opponent when you know it's going to be a tough night in the office you can't
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sleep very well you get like shy sleep and I was having like eight to 10 hours a night and I was like nice oh my God is
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this what like normal life is for normal people regulars with their regular hours of
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[Laughter] sleep I think it's beautiful that you really started to take that Journey a
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lot of people don't I know I started fighting and it was therapeutic for me
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but the Band-Aid stopped sticking you know so I started having to do that kind of work what exactly did that process
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look like if you care to share just um I think that vulnerability creates a lot of opportunity for other people to you
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know reach out and help them M themselves as well 100% um do you know
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we have like the imaf the international MMA Federation so the head of the
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English um Squad his name was Martin and
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um he's actually took a step down now but when I became a coach on the national team he said like if you ever
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need help like let let me know and um after me last fight when I lost to Julius St aleno by AR
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that was me like I was like I am done like I got like Ian Gary level of hate
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online do you know what I mean I was just
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like going mine mine
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is she's like who who the [ __ ] that who's that
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SCA she scared she's a girl what say yeah after that fight I
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was just destroyed and I reached out to him in the end and I was like look I
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know what I went through as a young patient will'll have to be unraveled one
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day but whilst I'm fighting I can't go there cuz if you'd open up Pandora's Box you don't know if it's going to stay
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open or if you can close it or even if you can deal with it so I just thought
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no I won't deal with that right now so he was like okay we won't do cognitive behavioral therapy we'll do something
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else called a mind mapping and brain spoton so brain spot is
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basically you put like same frequency of music on and he would tell me like what
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what what you want to work through and I was like I want to work through the shame and the embarrassment and the
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guilt that I feel for lose and he was like like think about them
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moments when you was in the cage and I'd think about it and he'd be like how does that make you feel and I was just saying
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like devastated as shame blah blah blah blah blah and he was like tell me what you what your bodies do and and I was
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like my heart's beating fast I get an overwhelming feel of like uh I'm going to be sick in my belly like that's the
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worst part and I can't think straight like me train of thought would break off
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and then it's hard for me to think and recycle the thought and think again and then he got this like long stick out and
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had like a red pointer at the end and he was like literally moving it side to side and he said when your body feels
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something just let me know and I was like are you messing and he was going no
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and I was like I can't feel [ __ ] all is this a joke going no just keep trying just keep trying so kept trying and then
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when it went there I just Lo he went don't move don't move cuz he could see
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he see like my eyes flicking and he said keep the music on keep thinking about
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that moment of Julia breaking your arm um when you looked around and you was looking at 20,000 people like and all
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this and keep thinking about all the messages you read online etc etc I must have looked at that pointer for 40
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minutes and then honestly I was starting to fall asleep and then he'd move the
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pointer again and then we go back to the same point and he said tell me how you feel now I was like a little a little
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bit less but not much difference he's like right stay there and then my eyes was just leaking like so when Sean stck
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says like he doesn't cry like his eyes were leaking like I wasn't I wasn't crying but my eyes was leaking and we
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must have been out for like two and a half hours and then he said right I want you to go to sleep now cuz you're going
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to keep processing you're going to keep processing and then when I woke up he
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ranged me know was like I have to check in um the day after just to make sure you haven't got any suicidal thought
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blah blah blah I was like no I feel on top of the world he's like excellent and then the next week we done it again and
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again and again and like there was moments where I wouldn't feel a lot but I'd feel
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lter and then there was moments on and just where I was just like I remember
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once we done one session and I was angry and I was angry with with people in me
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like when I was a lot younger and um I came off the phone and I cried and me
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fiance Ellis had to hold me and I mean must have screamed for about six hours like ah like prop like someone had died
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and I woke up the next day and I was like that is such a big bit of trauma that has proper left my body like proper
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gone and then I was kind of fine from fine from then to be honest sessions a
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little bit shter less tense but I haven't gone I haven't fell back into
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any of them Tendencies you know after after the last fight when I won I
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started getting anxious again because the second I got home I was the big deal
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again everyone was back on me dick you know like oh meatball and I was just like yeah [ __ ] off weird have you been
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for the last year [ __ ] off do to know what I mean of course so I've said I
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want to work on I want to be able to enjoy my life without being anxious if I'm losing or if I'm winning so I've got
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another session on Wednesday and it's a lot more positive this time
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round it's uh it's important though because a lot of times it's easy to fall
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off once something works it's easy to get too hype because something works and
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feel like oh I'm cured as opposed to continuing to do the hard looks at
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yourself and and keep yourself at a even plane so that you're not spiking from
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the high of winning or dipping low from the suck of losing and um you know uh
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that's interesting that you said that he called you to ask if you were having suicidal thoughts is is the that
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practice really extreme do people a lot of times uh dip really low after doing
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that because it does seem like a really hard thing to do to just stare at this point that's been upsetting you and face
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it yeah I think um if I like I've been quite honest about it before but I think
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before I lost to eron Blan field like when me and py went on this big te together I had I was like proper having
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suicidal like thought like and the Wales was at my feet like we was just so bed
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out like the UFC had us go and go and go and it was after the scene used and trained with used um in San Diego I came
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home and it was just like I just remember ringing my mom like Mom I keep having
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these dreams that I'm going to do myself in and like I feel so overwhelmed every
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day I haven't got the coping mechanisms and the tools to cope with this life
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like I have gone from a girl about town who's known to like known around the
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world and I don't have boundar set place where I can be like not today no thank
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you I'm just like yeah of course yeah no problem blah blah blah and it just got to a point where I was just [ __ ] and
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when I told Martin how low I've got he was like I will always check in to see
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if you've ever had that notion again um and I think that's a really good sign of a good therapist you know someone who's
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really in tune someone who's competed at the highest level they kind of just
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know um you know but I also think what we processed and the trauma that I fac as a
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child was pretty like rough so I think he was just checking in that it hadn't I
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suppose some people might get caught up in it as well and if they don't process it and work through it they might be
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stuck in that cycle still you know yeah well you get a a lot of suicide in in
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the fight Community um a p opponent of mine who i' I feel like maybe you knew
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her or but a lot of people that I know knew her um Ashley Nichols she committed
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suicide just a few days ago and yeah do you know you knew her yeah well I never
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met her but but I yeah was she on tough
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I'm not I don't think she was on tough it is Ashley Nicholls she's a indigenous uh fighter out of Canada she was Muay
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Tha fighter I fought her in Muay Thai and then she transitioned to MMA and um
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I did a post about her and like maybe 10 girls that I trained with knew her
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either trained with her or fought her or just knew her she was on a tear like you
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were saying she was on a three-fight win streak um and it doesn't matter you know
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the pressure if it's looming it builds and whether you're on a high or a low it
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it can overtake you so I'm really happy that you had people to talk to because I
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think a lot of times there's a stigma in the ma Community or in fight Community
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where you feel like you're weak for reaching out for saying you need help um
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as much as we focus on mental awareness like there's still always going to be that mind that voice in the back of your
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head saying don't say [ __ ] don't be a little bit and and it's it's just chemicals it's just a it's a reaction to
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trauma it's a reaction to the stress that we put on ourselves so I'm I'm really happy that you were able to get
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the help you needed and find people qualified to talk to cuz um you know it
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can go the wrong way for so many people and it's in it's kind of a common theme I hear a lot of Fighters dying young for
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those reasons yeah I think [ __ ] hell what we do isn't normal is it like we
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put ourselves in these positions which is fight or flight continuously and um yeah and
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it's I don't know like I say everyone who probably doing what we do promly is being through quite a lot so I think you
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get to your mid 30s and then you've had enough of your own [ __ ] what I mean or like maybe
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even before but I I kind of like I think men are a little bit later on than women
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I think men like reach their bit like a little bit after us and then you always see them have like a bit of a midlife
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crisis where I think the women take I think we get it a bit more waste for
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everything online and everything else and I just think we just deal with it a lot quicker we're quick to analyze and
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assess and fix I think there's an even bigger stigma attached to males in the sport
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like you have to be strong you have to be this you have to be that so do women but I think that females just in general
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it's a little bit easier for us to be vulnerable for us to reach out for help before men before get bad
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oh one hi this is me meal preps I'm back on a diet
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tomorrow let me just put this down sorry I'm just on a podcast there thanks see
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you what you get what's for dinner I've already had it but look we've got chocolate protein SK cake
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oo Spanish tortilla cocoa pops over nice oats like
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what you've seen you you've seen me and py can strip F and it's on that like pad
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it makes me laugh cuz pad always used to say like the fat just like melts off me and I was thinking how the [ __ ] does it
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do that but it does when you stick to the macros I think I think his head
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makes him look bigger than he is tooy did you see in his last face he um
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he started so if I say in kilos all of his fights in the UFC would not starts
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at like 92 and this time he started at 85 to make 70 kilo and just see the
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shoulders on him he's like L he was must no he looked really big and lean
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he yeah F fight night too he was huge on Fight
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Night yeah people can get away with that sort of uh like yo-yo dieting in that big roller coaster of a weight cut for a
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while but I mean you start getting up an age and it gets a little bit more challenging to to cut the weight to lose
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the fat and you start having to really like properly prepare for it yeah I that's what I noticed about this fight I
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was thinking you can you can tell me if I'm right or wrong I don't think I'd still be
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fighting now if IID had to do all of them big wake cuts for like 10 years I
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don't think I'd still want to do it all the time if I was living the life that I
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used to live where be a little bit less accountable when it comes to life foods
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and I also said to me me coach Paul I don't think I was technically good enough for the 115 division because I
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think the 125 Division is a bit more of like a brawl away category and I think
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the 115 stylistically everyone is so sound and I think I finally put enough
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time and effort into the grappling to now be ready there and to be ready to have a good run at in this this division
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now so we talked about people you know cutting a lot of weight for that
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Advantage but they're normally missing the the filling in the gaps of
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technique and I I have to commend you because you not only you know cut weight to a honestly a more fitting weight
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class like height-wise sizewise for you but you also filled in a ton of gaps and
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I I really admire and respect that and appreciate that because normally people just do it so that they don't have to
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put in the work but you did both and that's just it's really commandable and admirable thanks
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Jess yeah um what do you think do you think you had a choice um when you got
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into the UFC like do you was there a moment where you were like I could either cut a bunch of weight and be in
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115 or I'm a 25 because I feel like when you got into UFC you were pretty settled
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in that weight class right I
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was the Fett um I got into the UFC from heart
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like just this like there was no science we didn't really know what we was doing I just [ __ ] had a good go when I got
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in there I just I I just had a fight and I feel
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like the more with more success the more opportunity unities has arisen for like
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more science-based training nutrition and testing and I remember after me UFC
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debut loss I had ex scan and they basically
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said you're going to have to cut like 10 pound the night before still to make 115 so you may as well just stay at this
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division but do correct strength and conditioning and do correct like macro
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periodization meal prep so I was like okay and then I I got away with it I
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feel like I can beat most 125
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Strikers I think I can even beat most Grapplers but when they're grappling
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when I'm fighting the black belt who are the Elite of the elite if they get me down I was struggling too much to get
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back up because they know how to use their weight and they know how to keep me down
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and I was just done after we last last like years I was just done like the next day we was on the train
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going home and I was like I'm done and me coach Paul just said I swear to God if I think you couldn't be in the mix of
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it I just tell you to go to boxing he said but I swear just please give me one fight drop down to this weight and and
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look watch how easy it would be and um I honestly trained like I was getting
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ready to fight a Manda nunz for the fight and people can say what they want about am Bala but she gave kolina like a
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close fight in the in the fight that they had before this one and i' just been finished twice in the face round
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both times so I mean so she asked for the fight she got it and um I think you
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could see I didn't know yeah I didn't know that either so I've never T down a
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fight girl I've thought everyone I probably shouldn't have just as much as you Havens um and I just think at the end
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when one I literally just like fell on the floor and I was just like [ __ ] hell kids you've just proper done it
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there like you showed box and you showed Tha box and you showed wrestling you
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showed jiujitsu and you showed MMA Grand and P like you literally put on a clinic there and I was just like [ __ ]
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hell my god did they yeah I don't know if I agree with you um with the whole
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you wouldn't be around if you were doing 115 for what would you say 10 years just
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because there's a right like I was wrong so I think you both always you Americans
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you always eat well you know what I mean like are you you should have seen us
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last night at the fights girl also you you realize the leading cause of death
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here is obesity right no but you are always in shape I
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still like a meatball now to let's see it I want to see the abs shirt off hey it's still flat it's
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still flat oh please that's nothing that's not
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that's your fate since I was a 105 I'm like as heavy as heavy as I
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would walk into the cage at 125 is what I am now that's what that's what it looks like you 135 okay that's normal
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that's a normal straw not a big stra not a small one I'm like I I try to stay
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around 130 yeah that's what I would like to be just so the camp doesn't become
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about a lot of running you can still and just train R yeah I rather fight like at
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my um like training size as opposed to fighting heavy or fighting too small so
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I try to stay around there and then it's like same same when I get in there after I rehydrate I'm about 12 25ish something
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like that I think I was 123 nice so that it down he did right
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and the difference too like I um my main training partner right now is Jenna but
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as soon as I have like War when you was cutting weight in that changing room on
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your last fight I've seen the post I was like wow jna looks big yeah still Li in
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an open playing I know yeah but I'm saying like it is whenever I get the the
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um privilege of training with a straw weight who's actually a straw weight not just a big ass flyweight cutting down
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the straw weight then I'm just like oh man you're so light and I can see you
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had that little moment when you did the big DC single leg off of the cage like
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she she almost went out the cage because all of a sudden she's so light
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yeah I promised him I said I get this on all the boys in the gym but it just
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never came with fruition I always get like a good blast double leg like I've
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I've had a good good few ones then but to get that high crotch I was [ __ ]
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buzzing more more buzzing with that than it was the arar yeah that was the icing
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on the cake like I did the DC and I armer and I have
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abs no it was sick it was definitely that's
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definitely on my bucket list of things to do in the cage yeah yeah that was
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awesome I know I'm gonna try and get a wa head oh there you go I might be
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able to reach someone's head she was still she had six inches reach on my arms I was like for [ __ ]
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sake you need you need one of these little meat wrestlers to get that one on yeah came
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down to straw to avoid that kind of thing I know I'm I have actually got the
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the smallest reach in the whole of the UFC in the in the whole
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J come on that's great before me it was
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H but no she's been she's been caued oh okay 62
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dang she did have some T-Rex arms they were like short but meaty but I think that because her traps were so big they
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just like Zapped up her arm leg Yeah aale short short reach isn't always the
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worst thing you get really tight hooks you get like power on anything that
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comes in at an angle and they're just kind of piano catting while you punch
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him in the face so it's not always the worst thing especially if you have like head movement footwork which you have
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yeah yeah you could do it have they said anything about what's next for
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you I you know me when I was drunk after the fight I ended up on one G we had the
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best night in Vegas ever I ended up in is it Resort Wheels we went to go watch
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dead mouse with Michaela Maya love her she's
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my she's like she's like one of those isn't she cuz I feel like when I first met you guys I was like in and when I
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first met here I was like oh I can [ __ ] with you like you're cool
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hey I think seems fine yeah I think they always do won in England in
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July and I believe they trying to say it's like Manchester which is
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like about 20 miles away from my house so that's like the northwest of England
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where we live so that would be cool but I don't know if I'm given I reckon I
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just need eight weeks to make the the weight correct um since being home I've trained
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twice a day since I've I've got some Jiu-Jitsu competitions booked
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for March April May nice and that keeps you in shape too because you have to
32:48
make that weight under 60 kilo what ones do you
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compet um it I did a few different ones ones but I'm going to do
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ADCC um the 21 kilo and under I think not kilos what is it
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21 oh no 121 but I think it's 50 something 56 or
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55 yeah 56 55 and under or 56 55 yeah do you know what we should do we should all
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do the Master's worlds it's in August in Vegas
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yeah I'm planning on it my uh my uh one of my professors just asked me if I was gone so I'm GNA try to do that rather
33:36
than J you know what I was supposed to do it last time but then uh I had the old the
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old foot issue um so yeah I would love to do that I've really been wanting to do that um I just got cleared from the
33:49
boot to like work out but I still have to keep a shoe on so I can't do anything Barefoot yet but can you wrest not
33:58
wrestle could you do do you mean just to be at the gym or can you do Jiu-Jitsu with wrestling
34:04
boots I have to have a special orthotic insert just so it takes the pressure I
34:10
know I'm like old lady sty I have to keep the pressure off of like the ball
34:15
of my foot because that's where the break is and it's just uh it has terrible circulation it's weightbearing
34:20
and like anything up on the ball of my foot is problematic so I started physical therapy last week started doing
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no heels um but yeah uh they said one one
34:34
more month they want me to stay just in the shoe with the orthotic and then we'll start doing Barefoot stuff uh but
34:41
my foot's super locked up just from like being in a fixed position for so long so I'm excited to to touch the mat again to
34:48
be barefoot I haven't been barefoot in like a year Jess uh hit like some conditioning last week though because
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she got cleared and gotta entry back into being an athlete it hurt it hurt so
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bad it made me want to take a nap like I was a 60y old it was rough at least like
35:08
could you be able to do it like in stages it's not going to hit you like you know sometimes when I do fight camps
35:16
the first three weeks I'm like oh my [ __ ] god me hips it feels like that
35:22
but I'm not actually doing fight Camp intensity but it feel like that's the equivalent of where that's how bad a
35:27
shape I'm in right now that's what it feels like like you're in Red Zone all the time yes yes it's so bad my Red Zone
35:36
has significantly like moved down though it's like it's like 150 is red for me and I'm just like but you probably eat
35:44
better now than you probably ever have because you can't train or you couldn't train you know what yeah I mean I'm I'm
35:51
definitely I've always eaten what I wanted because I could work out and so this was was uh a little rough on me for
35:59
a few months I had to it was a little rough I started counting the macros I started doing all that stuff like
36:05
counting carbs which is something I've never had to do because I just I couldn't sweat properly I couldn't work
36:12
out we never [ __ ] sweat it anyway J
36:18
honestly was like it was like minus [ __ ] 15 sow ice and I was like I'm
36:26
just going to miss ways I was thought up in my head like [ __ ] how much money does that mean I'm
36:32
missing then when I was like that's the equivalent to like an average PA's
36:37
annual wage if not a [ __ ] chance that's all you got to be out here man it's winter time and we still get up
36:44
to the high 60s surfing again on the mat yeah Ian Gary took
36:52
someone to the took his girl to the beach for Valentine's Day I heard was out
36:58
here I'm going to come in April I'm going to go to
37:03
um I want to go to UFC 3 no but UFC 301
37:10
which is in um Rio because it's on my birthday May 4th so okay but before then
37:18
I thought I'd fly to San Diego train for two weeks and then go there nice oh May
37:26
May 18th so we get some work in I know you'll head kick me and I'll
37:32
just grab you a single leg no yeah yeah lift me lift me I'll be
37:42
so skinny we do that Kevin what is it Kevin thingy when he he lifts the woman
37:47
at the ends what's that F yeah um Dirty Dancing
37:52
Yeah you know I've been wanting to do that challenge but but I'm probably not strong enough to hold her so meatball
37:59
step in I'll step up to the place for you don't worry love I work on my
38:08
farm my god when what was I going to
38:14
say I don't know it's your podcast it's not mine Sor yeah well I think uh I
38:20
think that's all we have for you is there um I mean I loved what you were saying in the beginning about the stuff
38:27
and I could just see it written all over your face and the media and the face off
38:33
like everything um you said you got like Ian Gary level hate
38:39
um what kind of stuff what what were they saying if you don't mind rehashing
38:44
this horrible moment in your life so at peace I'm so at
38:50
peace um it just be stuff like [ __ ] why don't you kill yourself ah I hope
38:57
your baby's born Down syndrome I hate the ones where they're
39:03
like I've lost my [ __ ] mortgage on you because I put a bet on you see that
39:09
one's not as bad as the other two to me no but they go like they'll go in on me
39:15
family and just I don't know maybe you're a bit Fragile on something and
39:20
they such a nerve like I swear to God I don't miss a session I don't I I give me
39:27
life to this game as much as hard as I train I do the media side I try and make
39:33
everyone laugh and just enjoy the space exactly like what you used do and I
39:38
think like I say it got that bad I don't know why it gets that bad DC even said
39:45
because me and Paddy come up so quick that's what happens you know what I mean but yeah [ __ ] hell I haven't I
39:52
haven't done nothing wrong to receive it but I also think if it's annoying for them to see me celebrate but I'm like
39:59
[ __ ] kid where I'm from and what I've managed to achieve that was never in my stars that was never written for me and
40:07
like when I've had them big moments in front of the world I feel like I've the same as what you both have because you
40:13
you've been in the game for so long you've grown up in front of the world you've matured in front of the world and
40:20
that's what I was trying to say in all the media stuff is like me and py
40:25
literally just got drops into the ocean and was just trying to swim and we might
40:30
have said some things wrong or that was distasteful or said some really good things and I think we've just tried to
40:39
Lear and what I was always so much trying to make it an experience for
40:44
everyone else that when I just you see in it this fight fight week I was just like [ __ ] you not even St and off with
40:50
me opponents cuz it's not me vers you it's me vers me so I'm not even entertaining yeah
40:56
it's me face me to me love that no I love that it's so important nobody no
41:04
like there's no Playbook on this we're all just trying to figure it out we're all human we're all trying to do our best and I just I got to say again I
41:10
really appreciate your vulnerability your honesty and just your perseverance it's it really is
41:16
inspiring thanks love I you can't go out on on so when you're having a [ __ ] go
41:24
you've just got to keep on going I because people need inspiration people need to see that you can still do it and
41:30
I think it takes the power away from the trolls a little bit mean like I've read it all you could say anything to me now
41:37
and I'd be like all right say something original I've heard that before to I
41:42
mean but um I don't know just I I think like if I could ever leave one piece of
41:49
advice or one profound statement is like you're not owed anything in this a or on
41:55
this world like you can train as hard as you can you can eat the right food you can go above and beyond and you still
42:01
it's not your right to win J I mean you still have got to work for it
42:07
so nothing's nothing's given you've got to go and get it is is is uh the
42:13
inspiration part your main drive right now you think inspiring others by just
42:21
going and trying and being yourself I haven't believed I could win a bell for a long time and after that
42:30
fight I'm not getting carried away with myself I'm very aware that a Dian B beer
42:35
is not way like very much away but I think if I apply myself I can [ __ ]
42:43
have a good go I can get right up in them Rankin and see where we can go from there so I
42:49
think I don't know if it's proper weird to say but like I've inspired just [ __ ] say it yeah
42:57
I'm your own inspiration deistic but I think [ __ ] there's not many you can take on the
43:03
chin the [ __ ] the world through at me and moon walk through it
43:12
all yes no it's so true and I think a lot of times when we when we have a step
43:18
back we're almost embarrass to say that we believe in ourselves and yeah you
43:24
[ __ ] like you need it there's there's no way to get through this world if you don't believe in yourself so I love that
43:31
good for you man I'm I'm happy you found that for yourself with this fight hope you find it for the next one too I know
43:38
I've asked to rank to Poland because not here for a [ __ ] long time so made for
43:43
a good time not a long time give me someone top 15 top 10 Nice
43:49
Nice anyone you have your eyes on or just like a fight that even if
43:55
it's not your next fight you know it's going to be a good fight I'd love to fight Michelle Waterson or baby Shar
44:03
because I had one rounds with baby shark and it was very competitive and I think we'd have a good go um and I feel like
44:11
Michelle W fighting his is like a stylistic good fight for both of
44:18
us and she's little and she's in the rankings so you
44:25
get the head with her that's for sure hey well you know what I I I think I said this to you right I wouldn't fight
44:32
you unless it was for the Bells but I reckon we could get the bad [ __ ] Bells we could have female
44:38
BMF Bells yeah that'd be awesome we could start by
44:44
just throwing 20 spinning [Laughter] elbows for one fish power elbow
44:54
champion no for sure for sure well I I had to do
45:02
a lot of like searching inner inner searching and stuff to to get that drive back and it really is special once you
45:10
once you fill that belief in yourself again yeah I think so but I always thought you've been a gangster anyway I
45:16
think the way that you handle the media how you just try and make it fun and not
45:23
boring and you're so different J me and it like hates me to know that you the N
45:28
it because you the [ __ ] girl stop it you're the [ __ ] you [ __ ] no you the [ __ ]
45:36
just [ __ ] too you a [ __ ] you a fart
45:44
no that's a this that's a this you you're not a fart you're the
45:51
[ __ ] I look I look like a meatball R of wow hey you're GNA
45:58
love we did before before we let you go we did have a couple questions no I've
46:04
got to tell you something before the questions okay go for it yeah sorry I've got scramble it's like but it's like
46:15
a wear that I'm [ __ ] I am J
46:21
yes I love it one on pois and
46:26
I'm F you get you know I love it down the street yo yo I got gold medal
46:33
beating a blue purple Bel division in noi so I'm a
46:38
grappling I did I was laughing AJ I literally walked into the World
46:44
Championships ER and [ __ ] an was on the M like let's go
46:50
Angie I love that that was so I was pumped was like I I have one fan in a
47:00
m did you say a white hand oh no I said I have one fan in this Molly
47:07
but I have one white fan I'm more R I'm more red than
47:15
honestly oh man me with that
47:20
demographic yes okay your meatball comment reminded me of the questions um
47:27
MVB asked meatballs aren't really a thing where is she from has she had a
47:33
real Italian meatball or not so yeah meatballs aren't your thing from where you're from so have you had a real
47:39
Italian meatball I've never even kissed an Italian patient
47:48
both now I've had um no I've had um I've made the best
47:56
meatballs because I can't [ __ ] stand them ah so we've made them so nice we
48:02
make them with Italian sausage and then beef mints instead the POR oo you're
48:09
going to have to drop a recipe us when you come yes you be you'll be flyweights
48:17
next I need it man you gotta make like keto ones for
48:24
Jess what is keto is it is keto like a low calorie or no keto is like cars oh no
48:32
carbs oh well I guess they're Allin just F
48:39
off all right um one more question who's the most or big Leo for zaz who's the
48:47
most underrated fighter in your opinion male and
48:54
female that is such a hard
49:02
one pressure on and you have to answer you can't the fans F hell
49:11
guys I'm just gonna say Arnold Allen ah nice just from England I
49:17
think I think he is so underrated for how good he is at wrestling at Jiu-Jitsu
49:24
and at striking and know he's had like bit of a rough last two fights but I
49:29
feel like on his day like when you've seen some of his finishes on his day he can have a good girl I'm going to hate
49:37
myself that I haven't had a good think about this one it's okay is is to be put on those they're hard yeah really hard
49:44
to do I hate those during fight week you're like low carb you're comfortable or whatever and people ask you these
49:50
questions what was that question they asked you they were like how do you feel about I don't know
49:57
women women's rights or something like that they asked you the most
50:04
loaded because it was uh women's some like it was it was like women's month or
50:09
something like that yeah they always try and throw that one do you know what the I always get I always get the um do you
50:19
think that transgender should be allowed to fight sh because I'm gay and I'm in
50:24
the community yeah I'm like no
50:32
no if they say yes that means they haven't actually ever been punched in the face before because they would not
50:37
be saying that if they knew what it was like I feel like if you're fighting someone whose's trans it's going to be a
50:42
hell of a fight because they have some trauma for sure like I always say when Ashley for fall
50:50
Fox MH hey and but does she know she was
50:55
trans when they fought okay I I feel they were having trouble booking her I feel like you if
51:03
you know then a person can make a choice whether they're gonna do that
51:09
dumb i' fight a fell I would just have a go for you
51:15
would just for fun I I feel like if you were to do it it' have to be like exhibition or
51:21
something like I wouldn't want car par of the of the I would do it for Street
51:29
beefs there one of my favorite Street beefs Fighters is I think trans I'm not
51:34
sure if they like transition or not but there's this fighter named gash favorite do you know what g means
51:43
yes yes that's I didn't know if it was an England and American thing yeah it's
51:49
her her name is gash it translates I know I know her pronounce
51:58
oh but yeah they always ask me the black history questions too if I'm fighting oh yeah you get them I'm fighting like
52:04
December through February I'm gonna get a a nice Heap in black history
52:09
question's your favorite black you gota you gotta prep people with those questions for fight week yeah well you
52:16
know everybody r on all cylinders you know everyone who wants to be a comedian
52:21
is GNA say Mike Perry his favorite black play yeah that's the one but yeah they need to
52:27
prepare us for sure we need to cheat sheet yeah sure sure all right Molly we don't want to
52:34
keep it too much longer thank you so much for coming on we're so happy for you and your success and can't wait to
52:39
see what you do next in the division and we can't wait to see you in a few months I know I even said to Jenna like say the
52:48
last two weeks of mar April or maybe the first week of May one
52:54
nice and she might be fighting sometime in April for uh
53:00
something so I just realized I can't say it but she she might be fighting April
53:06
too so a I I hope she's leaving somewhere and going somewhere else and get hey
53:12
hey we need to will it we need to will it my my affirmations [ __ ] tight so
53:21
I'll get to work I'll start manifesting and a faming yeah yes love it love it do
53:27
it hey you reckon she could make straws on her I don't I've seen her at 25 and
53:34
she's tiny well at wein she's like a lollipop head isn't she yeah she's just
53:40
like uh starving Marvin you know like just super super skinny like not tour so
53:48
she looks bigger from the front but when she turns to the side you can't see her you know what I mean
53:54
like yeah but I mean I've I've told her too she should try or not should try but
54:01
like she's not bigger than the biggest straw we so there's always a
54:08
possibility but all right all right you're all wrapped up
54:13
like a little yeah so we're gonna let you go thanks so much for your time KCK in
54:24
bye all right oh man I love that girl I can't wait till she comes back out she
54:31
look so comfy I'm about to go do the same thing even though it is 1 o'clock
54:37
it's 1 L we had a really late night I think we could both use a little a little map my legs are still tired
54:44
trying to impress shano mly you were impressing the hell out of me I couldn't believe you didn't stop up
54:50
that hill you just kep going I was like wow I thought I thought about stopping
54:55
and then we came around the corner and I saw that they were still there at the top of the hill so I was like ah okay no
55:01
we're doing it got my Army run going oh my God that was impressive it
55:08
was it was very impressive thank you thank you was not impressed that n none of the
55:14
gentlemen offered us their seat but that's for another show no they were
55:19
very unimpressive in that sense no Gentleman on that golf cart I
55:26
like I like how um omali was behind us when we were walking towards golf carts
55:34
and then we we got big time for sure I looked at Corey Cory McKenna was with us
55:40
and I said we're about to get big time and it happened yeah but it was you you
55:45
did it you manifested that I didn't manifest it I just set my Barlo so I wouldn't be
55:54
hurt it's okay oh you muted
56:00
yourself but yeah it was a great time last night I'm so happy that we got to you know join in all the festivities and
56:07
feel that energy it felt good I haven't uh experienced that in a while yeah I wish they came to San Diego or to uh
56:15
SoCal more often we have to we always have a good time when they come out here
56:20
they said they'll be back soon though hopefully they're coming back down to any go hopefully it's not like
56:26
Northern California or something like that yeah no one wants to go there want to go there yeah Alpha M
56:35
show all right well this has been another two
56:41
straws we'll see you next time guys
56:46
oh
56:52
bye
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