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MMA and Aliens with Barney Hill's Granddaughter Angela Hill and fellow UFC vet Jessica Penne
Jan 20, 2025
We've got more fan questions for ya including the much asked for discussion on Angela's grandfather Barney Hill's abduction story. Jess breaks down so much she could be competing against Ray Gun in the olympics. Also twitter doesn't like us, maybe because we don't call it by it's cool new name, X.
00:05 still recovering from Thanksgiving
01:35 We feel you Jon Jones, why fight younger people like Tom Aspinal when you don’t have to.
05:44 Twitter did not appreciate my butthole workout clip when asking for fan questions
09:07 Why has Weili been out so long?
17:50 Jess breaks down the best submissions for a beginner in Bjj to learn.
20:54 Jess breaks down the feet fetishes, she is so wise!
26:37 Jess breaks down what she knows about Ange’s grandfather’s alien abduction story and she’s pretty spot on! Ange elaborates on the Barney and Betty Hill abduction story.
39:22 Why is hypnosis so taboo nowadays?
45:50 Is it a coincidence that sleep paralysis demons resemble aliens?
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this has been a rough week listen on my body and not because
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of training it takes me way too long to recover from from drinking these days I
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told you I was I was literally winded lifting weights oh man and I got really long rests in between the sets that's
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always a a kick in the face for someone who's like a cardio athlete when you try to lift something and
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you're exhausted I'm better than this this isn't a cardio
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workout and yet I am struggling I should be sore not winded after I lifted I went on um a
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hike at Mount Migel and I was with a cat the dogs and I was huffing and puffing
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the whole way I mean it's a pretty steep clim but it's nothing that I haven't done before and I was like [ __ ] am I out
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of shape how is she doing uh she was way slower she was like you can slow down and I'm like if I stop I'm not
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continuing you had to stay on your Rhythm I had to keep the momentum if I even paused to admire the view at any
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point on that hike other than the top it was it was a done deal oh no okay well
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good job good job so mad at it I was so M I was so mad at her the whole time I was like why I told you I told you how I
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was feeling and that I just lifted you want to go do another leg workout see this so mad at it this is what Jon Jones
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is talking about he is enjoying you know becoming a more mature athlete who
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parties occasionally responsibly but when it comes to young folk you don't want to have to keep up
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with them no like this guy how old is a a thingy he's like 32 there there is a
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drop off I'm just glad he finally said the words yeah because he was
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alluding to it he was tap down seeing he was like saying all of the other reasons that he didn't want to fight asol other
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than the fact the the real reason the root of it and I get it I respect it I
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get it yeah he's a he's a young man he hasn't quite hit that hump where you
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start to deteriorate no he's young and spry where you start to uh need longer recoveries
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times from drinking and doing all the things that you do the real thing uh as
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an adult yeah come on yeah you need longer recovery times for that so to fight
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someone who is younger you always have to be aware of that part like you got to be on your p's and q's Jon Jones is
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gonna have to be drinking his green juice Not absent no no stay away from
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something with cucumbers in it lots of spinach and kale yeah to to make sure
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that he is uh nice and spry and ready to go if he fights Tom asmo which seems
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like it's going to happen right they said there's a big announcement but it sounds like the big announcement was
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just that they're in negotiations so they announced that they're going to announce something one
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day yeah one day there's nothing to announce though they're just announcing that there might be in the near future
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just putting that bait out there and realing a in and throwing it back just kidding real back in we'll be talking
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about this for like months maybe a year maybe years I mean how long did it take
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for him to fight Stipe we heard about the St fight months before the St fight
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got cancelled and now it finally happen so this could
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be years in the making yeah maybe if we're lucky Maybe by
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Spring 2026 this when you when you're uh when you have like a a movie that you're really excited about coming out and then
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they have the sequel and you're like oh [ __ ] when's the sequel coming out and it's like summer 2026 you're like what
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the [ __ ] we're not even 2025 yet yeah I've been waiting for like the next
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launch of peaky blinders season 6 or the movie whatever they're doing for years is that happening it's supposed to God
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damn they announced that there's you know a possibility yeah and we wait and we I
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thought it was already supposed to come out to be honest I've been waiting for the next season in a severance for forever to I
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know I keep looking on my Apple TV waiting for it to say like new episode
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when's that [ __ ] happening I thought it was supposed to already happen maybe it's December God damn writers writers
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uh writers what was it writers uh whatever it was called the the the thing
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where they held out writer Union thing writer Guild was it writer Guild yeah
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okay maybe I don't know but see what I I was so
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convincing the thing where everyone was protesting because of AI what was that
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called it was called the writer something strike writer strike yeah damn writer strike that's what Jon Jones is
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doing he's holding out until we start begging for our
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sequel to Jon Jones being a heavyweight champion and if he if he holds out long
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enough we'll be able to see him fight Tom Aspen for and everyone will be happy
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yeah we'll see we'll see if that happens might they might just have to make AI do
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it we'll see how it plays out in virtual reality oh well uh I tried to see how it
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would play out asking questions on Twitter of what people wanted to see or
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what people wanted to uh hear us talk about for this episode since there were no fights this weekend and uh I got a
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very Twitter response Twitter is a dark dark place what did they say I kind of asked for it though because I posted a
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clip from my Jillian Robinson workout butthole training video I'm sure that
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was received very well if you guys haven't seen it make sure you check it out but it like and comment and share it
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like comment share it with all your friends um it wasn't a bet it was just the part where where you you and Cat are
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hitting my butt with a club and I just posted that because there's a good view of you in it I didn't have any
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recent like selfies so I just posted that I was like hey what do you want me and Jess to talk about on this week's
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two STS and I got the most Twitter response this guy goes you're a [ __ ] and don't
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deserve your job most unprofessional [ __ ] from women in your position and I'm
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like my position your position what is my position exactly
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oh I wonder where that person was from he he meant from the bent over position
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that's supposed to be doing all those acrobatics from from that spot like
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that's half of an MMA fight right there is somebody on all fours rolling around on the ground yeah I mean maybe the club
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wasn't involved but it feels like you're being clubbed yeah the the club was like a a a vacation compared to what she did
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to that girl with the elbows man that was horrible how else are you supposed to condition that area o so we
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did get a funny question um speaking of elbows to the butthole uh Tony
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Montana asks take it in the butt or get elbowed in the but butt
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butt would you rather would I rather uh both can be very unpleasant
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depending on your partner depending on your partner are they a selfish partner are
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they a gentle partner are they
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bony oh god oh that's a great question I gotta say uh I can't honestly
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answer because I've never been elbowed in the butt nor have I
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so there you go sorry we can't choose we don't
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know uh but hey if I get that Chile and Robinson match up then I can compare
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notes and let you know afterwards hook your girl up Jillian oh
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my God that's horrible h you are a [ __ ] you you're a [ __ ] cuz you roll
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around on the ground and you show your lady parts for 2.5 seconds yes you're a
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[ __ ] for that they should remain facing down to the ground at all times yeah that position is uncalled for very
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unladylike oh man uh we got another question that is a little more in the realm of uh things that we can answer
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professionally for that Twitter guy uh
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silver uterine lining
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wow please please great I don't read the names until I start reading the question
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yeah I know I can tell and then I'm like oh no all right silver eer in lining ask I
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love way but is she too inactive why is number two fighting number three if way already beat number
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one I got to look at the uh R I'm trying to do the math right now so I know Suarez is fighting uh jander Roba even
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though we already be uh uh girl who fought Richi uming y yeah so yes okay we
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didn't need the rankings we figured it out got there sorry when you say numbers it's like when a boxing coach is holding
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out and first you know somebody says jab cross and now they're saying one two and it just takes your brain just a second
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to like recalibrate yes wait because we know it or when they start going 13752
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and you're like huh you're like Sai social like what are you doing wait a
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minute please stop I just need a second and it doesn't help that you're throwing
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the MS at my face and trying to hit me in between the numbers just chill the [ __ ] out yeah speak English
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jeez um yeah so we have Tatiana Suarez at number one Yan at number two Verna at
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number three um well the the thing is yeah
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there's a bit of a of a log Jam and it could just be that uh Zang isn't ready to fight when you're the champion
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sometimes you know you get to call your shots you you've earned the right so it could be on her side it could just be
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that they're trying to figure out who's next uh with the matchups and and get an
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exciting one because she's already fought Yan uh so I think that they're
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looking for Tatiana Suarez and vierna to figure out who wins and then pair them
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up from there yeah I think so I think wh's comfortable of waiting and I'm sure
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the UFC doesn't mind her being comfortable of waiting since they do have such a log Jam with um just
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fighting Fighters right now too like they they have a ton of events um but they also have a huge uh roster right
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now so filling up the cards and still allowing everyone to get their a lot of
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two or three fights a year is is been uh you know something that requires
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effort so I think I think uh I think she's just been chilling and waiting
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when when did she last fight
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um yeah and I think I think the the Suarez uh jander Roba fight was supposed
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to happen soon if not already so that
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title Eliminator would have been maybe a more a a better timeline for wh like
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fighting the winner of that fight within maybe three or four months but because
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that fight got pushed back now we have a title Eliminator that's no longer going
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to happen in a good amount of time for wayy yeah so she last fought April 13th 2024 she beat Yan in a decision and then
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before that August 19th 2023 she beat limos by unanimous decision and then
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lios is I think she's ranked number four um so there is just a bit of of a log
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Jam yeah uh with with the rankings so you got to kind of just see who's who's
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next and I I feel like wh did take a lot of damage in a little bit she was on the
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feet with lamos and in the fight with uh with uh Zan Yan so I I think if anything
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she's being smart about her head she she's been taking damage she's been getting a little wobbled like looking a
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little more vulnerable on the feet than she used to which is why I think she's
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adopted like a really heavy grappling game plan in her recent fights because it's the safest route for your head uh
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so I wouldn't be surprised if she's just comfortable having the time off letting her head rest seeing how the how the
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weight classes shake out and then jumping in her once a year she's probably comfortable financially too
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fighting once a year and and uh yeah I I I there's not a lot of movement right
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now in the strawweight division like everyone's kind of staying in place so there isn't anyone that people are
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begging to have her fight aside from tatianos saurus who is usually taking herself out of her own fights so aside
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from Tatiana no one's really like begging wh to get in there against a
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certain Contender so that gives way a lot of uh time too to rest to chill to
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to if she's comfortable she hasn't been talking like the other like the bellad Champions and stuff or you know when
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when people usually want to fight they get vocal about it and she's just been you know hanging out yeah enjoying being
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a fight yeah doing fighter celebrity appearances she she's living it up and
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honestly she's earned that right so you can't get mad at her for it really yeah I think she's chilling and I think the
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straight division doesn't need her to be active right now because there aren't any clear contenders right now unless
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she uh rematched Z Yen uh but that see would seem like an odd thing to happen
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too because the fight wasn't really close and it was her last fight and um
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unless we have like a UFC China coming up I don't see the the um incentive for
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the company to book something like that so so yeah we'll we'll see what shakes out it really just depends on if Suarez
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is able to make it to the finish line and if that happens before we get another UFC China but that would be the
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like we talked about it before that being a dope uh headline for an event in
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China to have two Chinese women fight each other like that'd be insane uh if
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if it works out that might actually happen yeah and it could and maybe you know maybe that's what she's trying to
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to wait for yeah Yan looked really good in her fight against RI all Bea a lower
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ranked opponent she still looked really solid she looked improved so I could see that happening if if Suarez and janer
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Roba took too long to come to fruition definitely so professional we
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are maybe these [ __ ] do belong in the position that they are in I mean we we
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made our way here and we're here there you go question you go oh my
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God there's just there's so many there's so many oh my God what's what's the
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question you hate the most on there red or white are you kidding me
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red red or white what wine oh like why would you even ask that that's just
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upsetting do she look like a summer girl no um there's just there's a lot of like
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dating questions would would I um date a non fighter inter would I date someone
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who's long distance out of state or out of the country oh are is are these all
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from the same person no they're all from different people I mean they're all over here it's it's one guy with five
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accounts trying to figure out like what his chances are I know I know um yeah
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there's just there's a lot there's a lot of that stuff are you
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single um what do you think about the push back that Nina drama is getting in
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the comments about not a TR oh not a TR
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what's a TR I have no idea oh there's more to the question but
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it doesn't it doesn't read it I guess I can't read it um sorry a stupid one
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never mind like a juicy question but uh best submissions for a uh for a beginner
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in BJJ to learn o I feel like
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the easiest one would probably be a guillotine yeah I feel like um people
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are taught to get back to guard and close guard and uh lock up the
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guillotine a lot um I feel like that's probably the easiest one and then like a
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rear naked choke um they teach they teach a lot of of guard retention when you first get
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into it guard retention passing um yeah I feel like a guillotine
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would probably be the easiest one to learn yeah especially because most Jiu-Jitsu people don't know how to take
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down so if they can't like get a good dump on the single leg and they're going
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they're shooting with their head like that it gives you the guillotine a lot like uh I I think it's a good one for
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people who are starting to go live to do especially if you're starting from your
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feet a lot because that like awkward dance that a lot of people do in the
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beginning the guillotine kind of sets you up for that but what about when
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people pool guard asking for a friend what do you think the best attack is for
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that wait when when someone pulls guard on you what's the first thing you do uh
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put your knee in the middle uh so it's learning it's it's learning to split the guard and not let
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them close around and then from there like posture and pass or or get down and grindy and
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pass uh because that is that is a big thing people pull guard people pull half guard all those sorts of things so it's
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just about like nullifying that attack not letting them be where they obviously want to be nice so you KNE them in the
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butthole yes it's their fault hey got to do what
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you got to do that's what you do that's what you get for uh displaying your butthole soone keeps quoting me on
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that I forget what I was talking about but I said how dare you display your butthole in front of
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me man people are really up in arms about your last post yeah yeah well this was a long time ago that I said that but
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I do talk about butts a lot I guess guess I'm more of a butt girl it's
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all right everybody has their thing um oh we so funny to me the butt hole or
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the butt in both of all of it all of it all of the butt okay it's hilarious not
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one specific thing about the butt no just the whole thing the whole yeah the the the round hole the all of it I'm
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saying the encompassing yeah the butt is fast the
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orb the aura of the butt it's hard to get
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over I get it um Paulo or nellas um
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asked feet fetish and why it's a thing something and why it's a it's a thing
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something of topic I guess they're asking why fo fetishes are such a thing you guys I
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like I had a stroke trying to so did I that's why I repeated it it's a thing something of a topic okay and is it's
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like when you start to write a sentence and you're like oh I should word it this way but you forget to take out the extra word yeah I do that too I do that uh
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yeah feet fetish and why it's something of a topic um you you kind of researched this
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right like uh the whole foot thing tell me tell me Professor
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JZ hold on um let's let's
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Wikipedia so I didn't really know about the feet fetish thing until I got into
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MMA and found out that every fighter that ever existed has a
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Wikipedia and not a Wikipedia a Wiki feet profile and wik feet is just a
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collection of people's Feats and celebrities Feats but because Fighters are always Barefoot then there's tons of
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photos I've found fight photos I've never seen on Wiki feet oh yeah there were tons tons of like um screenshots
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from The Ultimate Fighter I'm like where did these come from I've never seen these before so
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foot fetish foot fetishism may be caused by the feet and
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the genital and genitals occupying adjacent areas of the somatosensory cortex possibly entailing
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some neutral cross talk between the two neuroscientist vs
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riman uh proposed that an accidental link between these regions could explain
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the prence of the prevalence of foot FSH sorry that was there were some big words
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in there I think they did pretty well you did great thank you yeah um so there you go the foot brain
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the the part that's in your brain that connects to your VJ and your and your balls and
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your wee we are also right next door to the park that connects to your feet M so
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yeah plus the feet can make a hole
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God it looks kind of like it looks very inviting to certain people I've never thought of a foot job
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as a thing that's a thing I've never thought of that that's ridiculous that's
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ridiculous um yeah it's always been kind of a baffling to me but it's really a
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thing like it's probably one of the biggest fetish es out there I think it's the most common talked about I mean
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there's like little little NCH fetishes maybe cuz it's pretty innocent like it's just a foot just looking at a foot yeah
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what you do with that thing yeah it it's it's the thing that you can talk about
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and people chuckle as opposed to something horrible like I like to get my
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balls smashed between two pieces of glass like like well I mean I thought it was pretty innocent and I like to get
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[ __ ] by horses yes you can't talk about that at the
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dinner table um yeah I thought it was innocent
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too until like there's you know deeper diving into like um like you know first
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it's all like foot massages and oils and candle wax and then it's like hey would
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you jerk off something with your foot or could you like smush with your foot or
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could you like there's just all sorts of different stuff that people like people get bored yeah even with their most
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favorite fetish they get bored and they have to turn it into something less innocent something
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horrible something horrible in dark no oh yeah I I I've never looked into it
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but it definitely seems like a thing that's really run rampid especially in
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MMA because that's what we're doing like we're smashing people's faces with our feet and we're we're stepping on things
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with our feet you're breaking people's limbs by wrapping your feet around them
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and doing stuff to them so there's a lot to get off on I
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guess it's horrible so many possibil I try not to think about it you're going
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to be thinking about it for a little bit oh it's horrible it's like yeah you don't want to think about those things
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it's like when you when you post a cute picture but you know your brother might see it you're like
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I'm just not going to think about it they know they know that that happens
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every now he's yeah no he's not going to like that he's going to got H put some
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clothes on that's that's my brother's reaction the the one brother the other brother is
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like oh that was cute the other brother's you know
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yeah he's fun he's more he he's more encouraging of my thought iness yes my
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thought Adventures everybody needs that in the family yeah exactly um let's see well oh I did
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promise that I'd talk about the alien stuff a little bit oh do you know
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anything about my grandparents yes what do you know what do you know tell me um
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that your grandfather and his wife yes got abducted by aliens and it was um
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it's the case most talked about because it's um the most proven to be like factual and real and most people
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recognize it as true whereas other people's stories don't necessarily um
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have any kind of evidence that says they're true yeah oh look at you look at
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you and know about my family yes yeah so yeah uh a few people asked and um I
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think a lot of people who watch this show probably know cuz Joe Rogan posted about it when I went to do a show but we
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didn't actually get to talk about it but my grandfather is Barney Hill and he was
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uh one of the most famous [ __ ] I have allergies right now it's going to suck
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but he is one of the most famous alien abductee stories from back in the 60s
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and um and a lot of people say oh both of my grandparents but Betty wasn't my
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grandmother she was actually my grand grandfather's uh second wife so my
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grandma would talk mad [ __ ] oh about both of them about the alien story she
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she just swore up and down that it wasn't true she was like I I think she was more like kind of bitter about the
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way things she want to get abducted too she she wanted to abduct them I think she did it to be honest like she she was
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like I'mma [ __ ] with them for [ __ ] up my family um but yeah um my my
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grandfather got abducted uh with with Betty with his wife um back in the 60s
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and it was a a weird case because they were both uh standup citizens in their
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Community um they my grandfather was a post post worker um I forget what Betty
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did but she had a good job it's not like they needed money or attention or they were trying to like you know bring
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attention to themselves they were also an interracial couple in the 60s which was a big deal you know civil rights uh
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movement just happened so they're together up North so it's a little more
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like open to that type of thing but it's still like weird looked weird upon so
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there's always the theory that that's one of the reasons why they were abducted because they were like oh the
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the brown ones and the white ones don't usually hang out together in a car let's see what's going on let's get our UFO
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down here and see what's happening study this yes yes we need to poke these things and see what makes them different
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from all the other ones that hate each other uh so so it was a really wild case because uh what happened was they were
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going up into the mountains to like you know visit somewhere in New Hampshire
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and as they were coming back down uh they saw a light and the light was going
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over the mountains and kind of zipping around like at first they thought it was probably like an airplane or something
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something but the way it was moving was really irregular so uh Betty's like oh
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my God Barney look at this and the thing that made me believe it is that Barney
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my grandfather had a very black person reaction to this he was like what is
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that he she's like hey look at this weird thing in the sky we should investigate and he was like
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[Laughter] nope he was like nope we are going to
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keep driving we got two hours to get home like we're good damn white people in their
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Curiosities yo like I swear to God if I get abducted cuz I'm with you oh what's that what's that over
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there behind those trees let's check it out it could be a hurt dog they need our help
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yes damn you so yeah she she kept looking and
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then she she made him pull over and check it out and he got his binocular out and he saw it and he could see
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people in a ship and uh he was calling them chinen he was said oh they looked
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like China men which in the 60s is what you called an
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Asian so that's it was the 60s it was it was what
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they said a different time it was a different time back then he was very Progressive so so he was like oh you
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know they they they looked like they were uh China men in trench coats which
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I'm thinking means like they had like the slanted eyes and they had like these uh he he drew out a picture where they
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had like big heads and slanted eyes and they were in these little like black suits um and this is all under hypnosis
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like they erased their memory of the entire incident after it happened but at
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that point he's looking at the binoculars he sees the guys in like this feeling of dread comes over him where
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he's like [ __ ] like a like a he explained it like he felt like a rabbit
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getting like in the sights of a hunter like he felt like he was in danger and I
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I I have to feel like that would be the most realistic reaction when you see
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something like that like you see something that you've never seen before and obviously it has a better car than
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you cuz it's flying you know like this these guys are going to [ __ ] me up and
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so and so he runs and gets back in the car and um they have their little dog
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with them their little uh dashun mutnick with them and uh they're back in the car
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and they're driving and then all of a sudden the spaceship is on the road and
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they see it on the road like just Bright Lights the car stops like he can't drive the car anymore and Betty's still able
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to move around probably cuz she's kind of into like what's happened like oh man this is exciting but they paralyze my
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grandfather because he's just like I got to get out of here and they paralyze him so that they're able to take him out of
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the car and they take both of them onto the spaceship what about the dog I don't
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remember the dog okay I I I think the dog was fine for a little bit but it ended up dying but I think normal dog
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reasons I they didn't kill the dog want make sure a long happy healthy life
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oh but yeah the dog was still around afterwards and uh yeah so they took them into the spaceship and they did all
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these experiments on them and the reason um they knew something had happened
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afterwards was because like they saw scuffs on my grandfather's shoes like on the top of his shoes because he was
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dragged in um he had like a weird rash where they like took a sample from his
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genitals and I was just like that sucks but he was
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assaulted by the aliens and he had like a rash around his groin because of it um
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and then uh Betty I forget what happened with her she had like stains on her
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dress and um they gave her like a pregnancy test and so they shoved
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something in her belly button or something like that but they did all these weird experiments and then they
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they were really amused that my grandfather had Dentures so they were like playing with the teeth and stuff
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like he totally violated him like he's kind of [ __ ] up
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like so so they put him back in the car and like Betty is having a great time
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she like they showed her the universe that they were from and and they're like oh we're from this place and and then
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later on she she was able to draw it under hypnosis but then they actually
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like located a a set of stars like years later that looked like where they said
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they were from so um so yeah there's all these little things that make people who
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believe in aliens really believe in that story and of course there's like a ton of reasons you could debunk any story
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about uh UFOs or aliens or whatever but now that like that thing came out the blue book thing where they released all
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the information about like oh yeah the Air Force has been recording UFOs and
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and weird stuffff in the sky for a long time and we just didn't tell anyone because like gaslighting you the whole
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time they were like y'all are crazy look at look at the source they're insane
35:39
consider the source they're all nut jobs but my grandfather wasn't a nut job he
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was like act a reputable Source who really didn't want to draw attention to himself so that's what made a story more
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believable so when they got back they were having nightmares about uh what
35:57
Haden happened they didn't remember anything happening but when they got back they were like yo there was like 4
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hours that that we can't remember it was like
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Thanksgiving like how's it 11:00 already we got here at
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3 what happened I don't remember singing that much
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karaoke but uh they got they got back and there were 4 hours Miss time wow and
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uh and they kept having these nightmares and the nightmares were kind of similar so they their friends were telling them
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oh you should try hypnosis because you can recall something like a repressed memory or something if if that's what
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happened so they both got hypnotized and um they came out with these this crazy
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story of getting abducted and uh they ended up um you know uh doing a bunch of
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interviews about it they were on talk show they uh uh the guy who um did the
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hypnosis hypnosis he wrote a book they they ended up making like a movie about it later when James ear jones played my
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grandfather so yeah it like a lot of uh a lot of random stuff happened after
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that where people just really held on to that story and now whenever I'm watching like a UFO TV series or something like
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that a lot of times they reference that yeah but like it was one of those things like you know how every year on TV like
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the Christmas story plays on TV like every year the Sci-Fi channel would play
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the abduction story and like my mom and and like my dad and stuff would be like
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oh your grandfather's on TV and then we go and watch it but it's it's like one
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of those things that have always been a a reality in my life like oh like uh you
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know it exists like it's a thing like aliens out there and I know because
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someone's so close to our family got abducted and unfortunately like he died in the 70s so I never got to meet him or
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anything and I never got to meet Betty or her family either but he seemed like a pretty cool guy and uh aside from
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leaving my grandmother with two kids for a white
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woman aside from that he was he was a smooth talker I
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feel like he was very charismatic and stuff so like yeah I think um I think
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that's probably another reason people were really into the story because when he did open up like he can he could
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Captivate a crowd yeah so uh so yeah it it would have been cool to meet him or meet her uh her family or whatever but
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uh but we've always known like this is a thing and um kind of yeah it's been like
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that story The the family story wow that's Co than any of my family
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stories I mean now you can say you're a UFC fighter I a video game I did UFC
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yeah I'm in a video game that's going to be our stories like where nobody's even going to remember Barney Hill they're
39:13
going to know about like yeah Grandma used to fight people for money in a cage
39:19
with her bare hands yeah freaking cool it's crazy how um how much um what is
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that hypnosis is referenced in in a lot of stuff and how it was debunked that it
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was um a useful form of uh psychology or it wasn't legit but
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there's like a lot of stuff about uh repressed memories of aliens about past
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live regression like there's so many things that um it's been used for and people just don't want to give it credit
39:51
why why do you think that is is it just like the power of suggestion yeah so people think that it's not legit because
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because you can um impress The Story upon somebody because there there have been instances
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where it was used in cases of of abuse say oh and they're like how are you
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abused and you're just like uh yeah and so they're trying to find an answer yeah
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there just wasn't enough um I don't know I guess they just didn't think it was
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legit because people can um have memories impressed upon them okay yeah but I think that I mean I've done
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hypnotherapy before and I thought it was very useful and I didn't feel like I was having somebody like guide me or lead me
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into a story that wasn't true it was just helping me like dig really deep okay interesting yeah I've never tried
40:41
it but uh somebody mentioned that it it's a thing that some athletes do in order to I don't know just like believe
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in yourself or get to that have like a trigger where you're like okay it's time
40:53
to go and you go you don't freeze in there so yeah I mean you do in a way you
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do have to be suggestible so that's why it's also controversial yeah it won't work on
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everyone yeah interesting you can also pretend you're being hypnotized and then
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just like lie through your teeth it's like um have you ever seen those people up on stage like in Las Vegas or
41:16
something like that or you see like videos of people that are like clicking like chickens and doing all sorts of weird stuff like you have to I guess you
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you just have to be suggestable you have to like really want it to happen and then sometimes people are like well
41:28
you're clearly faking it so it's just it's just always been a controversial tool yeah yeah
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interesting yeah I think um I think with this with this story I'm always in two
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minds about it like I'm like ah well you know maybe maybe he was like a smooth
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talker and he was just good at painting a picture and this kind of thing or
41:53
maybe maybe Betty was very suggestible and he went along with it because because she was kind of into the idea or
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you know there's a lot of parts that you could doubt about the story but the fact
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that all of it happened and um just the reaction seemed so realistic and if you
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ever listen like I think you could find a YouTube video of like the actual
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hypnosis tapes where you can hear my grandfather's and and Betty's voice as
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they're going through what happened to him and when I first heard the grandfather one that was when it became
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most real to me like he the fear that you see people in movies and stuff it
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sounded nothing like the fear in his voice in this hypnosis that like it
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sounded Eerie like scary like he's he sounded like a a a a scared child you
42:52
know like it and this is a grown man talking about his experience and how terrified he was
42:57
and um and yeah that just like sent chills through my spine I'm like he is terrified right now reliving this moment
43:05
so I I feel like that was when it became like real to me like Damn it would be hard to fake that yeah you know and he
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he could have you know he he definitely could have but like to hear that for the first time I was like damn now I know
43:20
why the story is so popular because that like I would be terrified if I lived
43:26
anywhere close to where this happened if I like knew anyone who it happened to because that like I don't want to feel
43:33
that fear that he fears that he sound that I could hear in his voice at that moment so it was like really cre you
43:39
should listen to I'll send you a link if I can find it yeah it's really creepy there was um there was another it was an
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Audi book that I was listening to and they used um they did a lot of past life regression through
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hypnotherapy and there's um and I I don't have my phone with me so I can't
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like site everything but it was kind of crazy and undeniable to me in my mind
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and to a lot of people about these past life experiences because this psychiatrist or psychologist um used
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that heed hypnotherapy he interviewed so many thousands of people and they would all mention like the same names they
44:17
would all like reference these like very specific things and he's like across the board like these all these people can't
44:22
be making it up yeah so like I believe that it is like a useful tool of course you can you know use it
44:29
in a way and and manipulate but it's just kind of crazy I just really believe that there's other things out there yeah
44:36
yeah we don't know what's going on we don't know we don't know [ __ ] man it's like we
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know a good amount but it's still just scratching the surface of what's really making everything tick and work together
44:50
and yeah like uh just the fact that they recently released all the government
44:55
like articles about it makes it it legitimizes it you know what I mean it makes it makes you finally think okay
45:02
now we're getting somewhere with with the public actually knowing what's going
45:07
on in the sky and what like the government is actually afraid of and you
45:13
know there's presidents on on uh there's presidents who have uh quoted like hey
45:19
like there's UFOs out there so I mean we're about to like launch
45:25
project space at or whatever it's called you know so it's like like there there's
45:30
definitely information that the public isn't uh hip to that the presidents and
45:36
the world leaders are that might make him a little worried about what's out
45:43
there in space so yeah it's freaky I don't like thinking about
45:50
it I don't like thinking about it at all I had my first uh sleep paralysis demon
45:56
after doing a ton of research on it for like a school project I did a ton of research on my grandfather's abduction
46:02
for a school project and then literally like that month I saw an alien staring at me from
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the door and I could not get up and I was that's another thing like everybody reports seeing and experiencing the same
46:18
thing the same figure yeah um if you go back into uh there's a certain like uh
46:25
folklore and they uh they're referred to as the gin and those are the ones those
46:30
are like the Sleep demons like the paralysis monsters but yeah it's like how how can we all experience the same
46:36
thing and have the same stories yeah there's like hieroglyphics of [ __ ] UFOs and [ __ ] I don't know maybe that's
46:44
just the aliens guy I don't I don't remember where I saw it but I feel like
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I seen it before but uh yeah everyone has that sleep paralysis demon that
46:54
looks the same it's just a figure that's at the doorway that won't do anything but you feel terrified about it being
47:02
there and that it sounds like the same description that my grandfather gave when he was looking through the
47:08
binoculars at at the figures in the sky like got to get the [ __ ] out of here you
47:13
know so it's scary scary to think about it too long and that's why we
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won't you guys that are uh going to be listening to this before bet I hope you have sweet dreams
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