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hey everyone I'm Jessica penny and this
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is Angela Hill and welcome back to
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another episode of two straws two straws
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as you order any food get a little
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famished yeah I did it actually should
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be here any second a it he'll be on
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Liddy's we have one small teddy nice
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oops Oh birthday Thank You Monsieur yeah
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yeah so let's talk about you see
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Brooklyn we have a really exciting
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stacked card coming out for us Brooklyn
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and where Brooklyn at where Brooklyn at
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where Brooklyn at oh oh so we actually
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have a guest call it today do we yeah we
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have a random Russian fan use really
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adamant about giving us an interview
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yeah four four two straws so that's how
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big we've gotten Wow
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international right so honey so yeah
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we're gonna talk to this guy and he's
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gonna tell us about a could be Francis
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Ferguson all right hello this is Angela
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Hill and Jessica penny of two straws and
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uh who are we speaking with no no how
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are you I am met I am spend at the
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Russian gentleman you might know me from
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such things as this but it's vital 300k
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standard russian gentleman so what's
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your take on the main event of UFC
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Brooklyn first of all I want to say
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Russia's greatest country in the world
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and it makes perfect sense that greatest
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fighter in world happened to be from
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greatest country in world Russian
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wrestling is number one no problem with
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state-sponsored doping not invention of
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capitalist Western pigs okay we're
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getting a little off-topic but let's go
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back to the fight um what do you think
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is gonna happen in the main event in
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Russia we have proverb they say if you
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have kind of men that can wrestle with
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bear you are men that can wrestle any
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mammal in God's green earth interesting
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okay you find this guy uh he was
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really adamant about being on the show I
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think I work on our filtering I think
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you got in contact through Facebook no
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it's false news Russian do not use
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Facebook oh all right
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thanks for calling bye right up next on
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the fight pass preliminary card we have
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an interesting matchup we have one
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fighter coming up one fighter coming
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down in weight class we have rowdy back
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Rollins versus Ashlee evans-smith very
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cool this is gonna be like fight of the
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Suicide Girls it's gonna be tattoo
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nominees tattoo girl tattoo girl the
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shake that first I see a girl with shave
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heads that's blonde who will win if you
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guys ever listen to AFI or watch ink
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master on TV this is the fight for you
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don't miss it too enthusiastic thumbs up
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hmm so I think we should play a little
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game
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oh really love games does it involve
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alcohol um it could all right so for
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everyone watching at home we're gonna
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play a little game and it is whose
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tattoo is it
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who's that deal is it so the premise of
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the game is if you guessed it right
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you're right and if you guess it wrong I
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think you should just you know show a
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child all right guys so get ready here
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we go first one I'm gonna say it back
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I'm gonna say you're right and the
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answer is back Robbins nothing for you
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oh I love them bill is next one
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rebel girl hmm
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that sounds like Ashley honest man if I
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ever heard it then I mean I want to put
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it past back but I'm thinking I'm gonna
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go Ashley - and the answer is Ashley I'm
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saying yeah okay guys if you're not
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drunk yet where you gonna do one more
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ready I'm gonna go ahead out on a limb
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and I'm gonna say Ashley I'm Smith yeah
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I'm I'm gonna go against you I'm gonna
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say back and I know I haven't seen that
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tattoo and Ashley and the answer is good
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game good game good game
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I won I won I won on the topic of Beck
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Rollins versus Ashlee evans-smith we
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actually have on the line Beck Rollins
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cornermen here to talk about her
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gameplay on net oh oh you mean mouth um
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hello and welcome how's it going down
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under a good I might we'll hold on the
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Kangaroos a sound this our Beck usually
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trains with us at Alliance but this time
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she spent her camp in Australia so
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explain to us the thinking behind that
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well you know the thing about our
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Suzie's hey dingoes I was gonna take a
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baby or Wally you know all of the
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incidents happen with children in
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Australia a big bang your mother real
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big advantage for her to be in a home
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base know that you get that primal
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mother instinct to protect your child
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from being out and I think she's really
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gonna take that we that into this fight
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mm-hmm you know really she's looking to
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go
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threw up like stingray tile through
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Steve Owens hot we know that she's
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restless so we really move in together
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the kind of position which you get on
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back like a claw you know oh no not you
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can live the straight okay wala quwata
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style hi Dean yeah anything else well
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you know these they say in Australia the
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national animal is a crocodile you
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rusted a crocodile in Australia you know
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you're gonna get your hands around his
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neck and that's what we're looking to
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deal with big joints I can say this st.
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Glasson interesting interesting and and
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what if that game plan doesn't
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necessarily work do you have a back-up
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plan well you know bigs going to hold
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the sting of mouse punches of there's a
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lot of steep people site a lot of venom
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on those punches you can say along the
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venom mole venom the most common
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household spiders in Australia let me
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tell you that's a lot of em one thing
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most Australian woman don't really live
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past the age of 30 is out wow I had no
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idea because of spiders yes thank you
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thank you so much for going in um we
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wish back the best of luck and hope it's
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a smooth training camp yeah we can't
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wait to see her perform hope she turns
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Ashley and today giggle up this tree
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talked about all right forces Australian
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for being good a mate get up goodbye
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mate so for this matchup we have rowdy
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Beck Rollins and Ashlee evans-smith and
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we have Beck who has moved up from
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strawweight to flyweight the newest
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division in the UFC 125 pounds and we
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have Ashlee evans-smith moving down from
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135 down to flyweight so this division
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is actually really exciting because
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you're taking like one of the more
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popular weight classes for females and
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you're opening it up and it is causing a
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lot of movement in the division
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quadrivium name the champ of
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five division dude dude dude she won the
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last season of The Ultimate Fighter
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women's division at 125
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she is Native American ding ding ding
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does she be robbed at my party done I'm
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sure he knows like what her name is
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nicko something I don't know personally
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I'm really excited that a few of the
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bigger strong wait so we're really
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clogging up the rankings such as a joke
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Alderwood all writing up to warmer
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waters and I'll still make 115 and the
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main event for the preliminary card is
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number four ranked fighter Karolina
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cabal kovitch and she is coming up
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against police Harry who holds a number
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8 spot in these strawweight rankings now
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this is a really interesting matchup
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because it is a potential title
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contention fight so basically this is
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setting up the next opponent for whoever
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wins the co-main event at UFC Brooklyn
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you wanna Jenn Jake check versus Rose
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Nomi unis police is on for fight win
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streak she's really filling herself
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she's moved up in the rankings quite a
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lot in the last couple of years and even
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though she's a big underdog I think that
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she has what it takes to beat karolina
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ever since coming off of the Ultimate
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Fighter Felice had a small a small kind
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of slump in the division and she dropped
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in ranking since she dropped some fights
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but since then she has gone back to the
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drawing board she has picked some
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personal issues of hers biological
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issues and she has really come up
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through learning she's really done it
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right she has beat four people in a row
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in an impressive fashion and and Felice
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is known to sleep on I think people are
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still under estimating her and and
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that's fine because she can quiet them
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up on fight night I think one thing that
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puts Felice above Karolina is
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she is a smart fighter she goes in there
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with a game plan and then she executes
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sit she doesn't really stray from it she
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doesn't get too emotional when she
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fights where you see like some people
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like say watch rose versus Karolina I
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felt like even though Rose was the more
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skilled fighter she allowed Karolina to
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kind of like take her to places that
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wouldn't have happened if she had stuck
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to the game plan that they discussed in
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the corner she's in there to win the
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fight no matter how she has to do it if
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she has to take down the striker she
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will she proved it when she fought just
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me so I feel like that's one thing that
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puts her above other fighters is that
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she's gonna be the more technical person
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but she's also gonna stick to that game
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plan and execute it one thing I
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definitely like about this matchup is
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that you have Karolina who's who's more
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of like a range fighter she does like to
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close the distance and stay in the
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clinch and Romy's as we saw with the
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Rose namajunas fight and I see Felice
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going in there and trying to help
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grapple her she I think we'll take
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karolina out of her comfort zone which
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is the ground she has you know a great
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striking pedigree however I think Felice
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will pick the smart route and she will
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strike close the distance to take down
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take her down and take her out of her
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comfort zone yeah I think that's gonna
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happen and it just sounds better when
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you say well I'm not really excited to
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see who wins this matchup because it
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really does put the next opponent for
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the champion in the strawberry division
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into place I think what Karolina needs
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to do in order to win is just try to
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keep scoring those high-volume
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combinations and moving one thing that
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she can do really well is just keep
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punching she doesn't seem to have like a
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ton of power and her strikes but she can
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keep going and going and going so that's
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gonna be her game plan to land I believe
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but I'm gonna have to go with the lease
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buy this one as well
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I definitely see fleece kind of the dark
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horse of this fight but but you know
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what she has really impressed me in her
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several outings and I just you know
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think this is a great time for Felice
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and I'm really excited to see this
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matchup I admire and respect both
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females and I am really excited to see a
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great fight
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yep let's go strat late opening up the
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main card of UFC Brooklyn is mr. Alec
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quintet versus Paul Felder mm-hmm we got
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some cool accents coming here we do um
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if you if you don't know Alec Penta is
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actually a real tour yeah yeah
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he sells houses I like what this trying
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to sell a house Ian and then uh
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both elders just trying to buy Kai and
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pack it and have yeah how do you see
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this going this is definitely an
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interesting matchup we have Felder who
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is you know more of a Muay Thai
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background kind of fighter he comes from
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Rufus port which is a very well-rounded
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team but they do really focus on
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striking now when we think of Rufus
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sport we think of do Rufus yes sir mr.
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Moy tie himself exactly um I'm expecting
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fella didn't throw some bows he's
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definitely gonna get and I like what's
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his face and I think we're gonna see a
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striking match I mean I like one day he
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definitely has good wrestling he good
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wrestling he's obviously well-rounded
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but you know I think he likes standing
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bang getting a lot of Milan in him yes
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the wrong route he's like I'm from Long
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Island like the punch people in the face
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fuckin'-a yeah so another interesting
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fact about that I like what he's the
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treasurer of the project spearhead Union
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is he yeah very long island of him you
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know
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very funny to be on steps yeah exactly
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he's like hey pay your [ __ ] dues and
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I'll take care of you you know I'm
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saying do a couple papers for me do a
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couple favors for you you scratch my
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back I'll scratch yours
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otherwise you'll be swimming with the
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fishes in the Long Island River whatever
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rivers over there we're in an oil
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my mama's basement exactly see right
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there
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you and I we understand each other hey
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hey yeah I think this is gonna be a
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stand up battle uh Paul filters gotten a
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bunch of knockouts in his last few
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fights same with I like went to even
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though he hasn't been as active as
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felder but I think this is the fight one
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of the fights a most excited for aside
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from the main event
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I definitely don't miss this one well
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you'll be sleeping with the fishes
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you'll be wearing cement shoes one
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morning you're done I'm a mega man offer
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you can't refuse on a house all right
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you're done I like what this Realty oh
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is this the wine that your mom suggested
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yet did you did you just talk about
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don't ever talk about my mom
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Matt no let's talk about the michael
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Chiesa thing Mike Piazza is taking on
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Anthony Showtime Pettis who is my former
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coach on The Ultimate Fighter season 20
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I know him I'm a huge fan of Anthony
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Pettis he is always throwing exciting
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kicks from crazy angles knees flying
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things flipping things he's running off
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the cage he is a human highlight reel I
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am I'm always rooting for this guy he's
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had a bit of a rut
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he's again you know had a few losses
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he's moved down and weight moved back up
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guys not always
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you know switching divisions because a
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weight is is the answer and Anthony
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definitely found that out so he has back
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up to a much more natural weight class
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at 155 pounds and he is taking on
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michael Chiesa I'm really excited for
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Pettis I feel like this is gonna be the
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fight that he comes back and reminds all
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the new fans why he was such a big deal
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when we were on the show I mean it's
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been a total like
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one-eighty his career is taken when we
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were on the show
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what was that 2014 it was about four
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years ago about four years ago we were
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we were both on the show together
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Pettis was coaching against my coach
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Gilbert Melendez and you know he was
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just one of the biggest stars in the
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game he was on the Wheaties boxes first
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mixed martial artist - grace grace
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the front of a Wheaties box he had
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numbers of endorsements and sponsors and
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I mean the sky was the limit and I think
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fight fans are so fickle and they
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sometimes forget how talented fighters
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are and how you know some things can
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take you out of your game and things can
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change and you just get into a rut
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sometimes there are tough matchups
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there are dumb matchups for everyone in
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this sport no one is is exempt from a
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tough matchup exactly and he wasn't
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fighting you know
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kans he wasn't fighting easy matchups
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that were like hand-picked for him he
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was fighting the cream of the crop and
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unfortunately he lost a few in a row and
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started to lose that I guess fan power
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that he had when we first met him so I'm
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really excited for this one just because
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I know how talented he is and you know I
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I just think that he has more skills in
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case of this absolutely I mean I'm
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always rooting for Anthony Pettis he was
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an amazing coach I think it's an amazing
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person a brilliant fighter and I'd like
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to see him get back to his winning ways
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and next we have the co-main event we
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have the strawweight strap up for grabs
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against former champion you honor
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youngjae check and the new champion rose
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Nami Eunice if you are not aware at home
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I have previously fought for the belt
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against JJ and Angela Hill has fought
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current champion Rose namajunas
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every both of us we did yeah it was a
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long time ago you know we Flemish
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although it's not a big deal anymore
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we're over it we're yeah we're over it
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even really over it yeah
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you know roses dog looks like a rat we
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have ourselves an immediate rematch some
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people love it some people hate it but
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hey it's a thing and it's happening it's
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happening it's happening there's nothing
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I can do about it um personally I think
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that this fight is gonna go exactly how
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the first one way but I definitely think
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Rose is gonna have her number on the
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striking Johannes chin is gonna get hit
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again it's gonna get tested again she's
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gonna drop again um because it's not
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something that you can fix in a matter
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of months like people will say Oh Jana
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showed up and she was cocky and this and
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that but when you look at the fight it's
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not like her hands were down and she was
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taunting or doing anything like that she
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was alert her hands were up she was
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ready she was backing up and then she
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got surprised by a punch and the way
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that Rose moves
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she's a very dynamic striker with a lot
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of movement a lot of footwork so Jana is
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just gonna get surprised again whether
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it happens in the first round or the
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last all right so we have a really quick
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turnaround for this rematch against JJ
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and Rose um the reason being is JJ the
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former champion it feels that she had a
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really bad weight cut which made it
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really difficult and she didn't recover
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from it and that was what made her chin
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susceptible to getting knocked out
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however like this is a real issue and
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this is why we talk about the movement
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within the divisions and the bringing in
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of the flyweight division is so
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important because we have people who are
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cutting a ton of weight to make
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strawweight nobody wants to go up a
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division it's difficult I speak from
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experience
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I'm coming up for 105 pounds 215 it is
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it's a huge jump so when you have
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somebody that is constantly cutting so
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much weight and then not to mention
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getting in Wars JJ has been dropped in
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at least three of her bounds and all of
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her fights have pretty much gone to the
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distance in say the last four fights
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yeah and she's also training really hard
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she trains mainly what guys at least she
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did before she fought Carla and she
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posted that video where she's literally
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taking a bunch of punches to the head
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while she's trying to punch the guy in
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the head like the girls probably been
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knocked out a lot more than we've seen
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on tape you know so uh you start to see
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that take a toll on them and especially
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when they're cutting so much weight
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she's still gonna have to cut a lot of
21:07
weight to make 115 even if the weight
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cut isn't gonna be as hard on her as
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last one I'd have to agree with you I
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think she is a fantastic striker she has
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very Dominus division she has a great
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striking pedigree she is large in the
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division and she's been dominant for
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some time but I think all of that abuse
21:28
on her body whether it be during the
21:30
fight or before she got to the fight
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with the weight cut summit hard training
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I think it's definitely taking on its
21:35
toll and I think it might not be a bad
21:37
idea to move up in a weight class just
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something a little bit healthier and
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that puts a lot less stress on your body
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people don't talk about like the
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duration that you should be waiting
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after having a head injury getting
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knocked out is a serious thing we we
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don't even know how long you have to
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wait but I always say a safe a safe
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amount of time is about a year Frankie
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Edgar just got knocked out for the first
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time he's been in huge five round Wars
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championship battles with other people
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going toe-to-toe with people that kind
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of damage that you accumulate over time
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it is only gonna catch up with you and I
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think that she knows she's not gonna be
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able to make the weight for a long time
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so she's gonna try to get that strap
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back while she can still make the weight
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she sees that she could do the Conor
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McGregor get your straw-like belt get
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the flyweight belt and it it's gonna be
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to a detriment
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I think JJ is definitely set on her
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legacy which which I completely respect
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but at what cost mm-hmm but that said uh
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what do you think JJ has to do to win
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this way JJ has to put pressure on rose
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she has to cut off the ring she has to
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protect herself she has to stay tight
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and throw those straight punches down
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and cut off the ring keeping Rose from
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using her her superior footwork we have
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seen that one of roses weaknesses is
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also clinch she's able to get kind of
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caught up on the fence she doesn't
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really like the clinch she prefers to
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have her space where she could pick
23:11
people off and then maybe if she does
23:13
get clenched up she tries to like get
23:15
some type of takedown or something like
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that so she definitely doesn't like when
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people are touching her unless it's on
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the mats and that's where she seems to
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feel most comfortable so that's another
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route to victory for jana if she can
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keep her pinned against that fence in
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the muy Thai clinch then that's a
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possible way that she could win as well
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yes so I'm really excited about this the
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straw weight fight like yeah I think I
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think Rose is gonna keep it but either
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way the whole straw business all right
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time to eat some Tami's engine purrs
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yeah yeah it helps it's good fast good
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how many fats so your body doesn't hold
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on to it mm-hmm
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in the middle there are complex carbs
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all right and finally we come to the
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main event we have Tony frozen taking
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off khabib the Eagle numata meadows and
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I can't tell you actually I can tell you
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how long I've been waiting for this
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fight to happen yeah it's uh this is the
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fourth time the fights been booked for
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it's time yeah - I think two times uh
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could be
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pull it out one time Ferguson pull it
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out so finally I mean hopefully before
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we finish editing this the fight will
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still be on please
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you
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so I'm really excited about this fight
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max Holloway it's just so good
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everywhere like he's not just the
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grappler he's not just a striker he's in
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everything and he probably doesn't the
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best out of everyone else in the UFC I
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think one of the other people who are
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kind of up there with just like being
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well-versed and well-rounded is like
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maybe max Holloway I am a fan of max
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Holloway however I think that his style
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against khabib is gonna be suffocated
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this matchup is very intriguing because
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we have a very dynamic versatile fighter
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and then we also have a very
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straightforward in-your-face spider in
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khabib nurmagomedov
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I'm I'm looking for cabby to close the
25:48
distance and put pressure max Holloway
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constantly I see this fight with khabib
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and I keep being being a very close
25:57
fight in the sense that they're gonna
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close the distance and he's not gonna
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allow X Holloway didn't you use any of
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his tricky moves and then could be when
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he gets you where he wants you he talks
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[ __ ] like he tells you you're nothing he
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talks to Dana he talks to like you know
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the the commentators on the side like he
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lets everyone know that he's barely
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trying that's one of the really scary
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things about khabib um we don't even
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know if we've seen a hundred percent
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could be it could just have been 30
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percent could be ILO's men so I'm
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definitely expecting the c920 have to
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pull out all the stops when it comes to
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his funky movements but I feel like he
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could worm his way out of those like
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tight positions and end up outscoring
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could be even maybe even taking one of
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those takedowns and using it to set up a
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submission I don't think that's gonna
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happen but you never know this is MMA
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kind of didn't happen and that's what
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makes all of the matchups extremely
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exciting mm-hmm I really hope this fight
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happens I've been waiting for what seems
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like years and it actually has been
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years so I'm excited to finally see this
27:08
fight that meets it all right so that's
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our take on Holloway Sanders
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nurmagomedov and all you parents out
27:17
there it's could be time do you know
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wait your kid at get it cuz of the show
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know where y'all connect my name is
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Angela overkill no and I'm Jessica penne
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and thank you so much for joining us on
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our second episode of two straws we
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really appreciate it and we'll see you
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next time probably gonna have to cut a
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lot of this
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